nexxstrait Posted September 14, 2003 Share Posted September 14, 2003 Here you are, as I promised, straight from the pages of Animage 11 (1991) First... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nexxstrait Posted September 14, 2003 Author Share Posted September 14, 2003 ... and second. Enjoy (do you want also B&W COMPLETE sketches?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robokochan Posted September 14, 2003 Share Posted September 14, 2003 Wow very nice pics! Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning Posted September 14, 2003 Share Posted September 14, 2003 definately nice pic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nexxstrait Posted September 15, 2003 Author Share Posted September 15, 2003 Black & White sketches part I... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nexxstrait Posted September 15, 2003 Author Share Posted September 15, 2003 Part II Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nexxstrait Posted September 15, 2003 Author Share Posted September 15, 2003 Complete pic. That's all folks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dna Posted September 15, 2003 Share Posted September 15, 2003 Ah, so it IS a single head laser. Good pix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isamu Atreides 86 Posted September 15, 2003 Share Posted September 15, 2003 sweet. i always ddi like the way that looked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roycommi Posted September 15, 2003 Share Posted September 15, 2003 Zounds, Very kewl, with a FAST pack in the first pic to boot! Very cool design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurel Tristen Posted September 15, 2003 Share Posted September 15, 2003 Very nice... looks good in color. Too bad it didn't make it into the animation. Designation adjusted: http://nanashi.macrossmecha.info/resrc/cat.../vari/vfxs.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oihan Posted September 15, 2003 Share Posted September 15, 2003 As others have said, very nice design. Would have been nice to have seen it in II! Ah well.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyges Posted September 15, 2003 Share Posted September 15, 2003 Just out of curiosity, did the mecha designer for Macross II do any other prominent work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nexxstrait Posted September 15, 2003 Author Share Posted September 15, 2003 Very nice... looks good in color.Too bad it didn't make it into the animation. Designation adjusted: http://nanashi.macrossmecha.info/resrc/cat.../vari/vfxs.html Yeah, It's a pity. Maybe they intended to do more episodes and show it in flashbacks, who knows. The super packs look very similar to the original VF series ones, don't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt Hungry Posted September 15, 2003 Share Posted September 15, 2003 Cool pics. Makes me wonder why these didn't end up in the TIA: Macross II book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malich Posted September 15, 2003 Share Posted September 15, 2003 Might have to modify an existing VF-2SS to make a VF-XS-II....... must go to drawing board and start planning what I will need..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uxi Posted September 15, 2003 Share Posted September 15, 2003 Nice. Why do I find myself vainly wishing for more Macross II? Guess I can only hope that Yamato do a VF-2SS... or maybe Bandai COULD make a 1/55 scale VF-2SS based off the models or, even better, a new detailed sculpt (like THAT will happen) or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshi Posted September 15, 2003 Share Posted September 15, 2003 Damn that's such a nice design I wish we could get more Macross II (side-stories etc...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rnurmin Posted September 15, 2003 Share Posted September 15, 2003 Nice Pics. I really like the design method on the new fighter mode (where the legs are extended further out) Plus the fighter mode looks futuristic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoBe-Patt Posted September 16, 2003 Share Posted September 16, 2003 What artbook did you get those pix from? and can you show me what the cover looks like? I might wanna look for this book. thanx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowlightman Posted September 16, 2003 Share Posted September 16, 2003 What artbook did you get those pix from? and can you show me what the cover looks like? I might wanna look for this book. thanx He said it was from Animage, a Japanese anime magazine. Issue 11 to be exact. Can't help on the cover image though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nexxstrait Posted September 16, 2003 Author Share Posted September 16, 2003 What artbook did you get those pix from? and can you show me what the cover looks like? I might wanna look for this book. thanx As soon as I get my hands on my scanner I'll post here the magazine cover. Complete details are: Animage 11 (november issue) 1991 (vol.161) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nexxstrait Posted September 17, 2003 Author Share Posted September 17, 2003 Et voilà , just as I promised: Cover from Animage 11 1991 (vol 161) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel's Fury Posted September 17, 2003 Share Posted September 17, 2003 Thanks nexxstrait! Cool pix! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent ONE Posted September 17, 2003 Share Posted September 17, 2003 nexxstrait, Thanks for posting these! Also, thanks for not plastering your name all over them like you had something to with the creation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nexxstrait Posted September 17, 2003 Author Share Posted September 17, 2003 nexxstrait,Thanks for posting these! Also, thanks for not plastering your name all over them like you had something to with the creation. I wish I had taken part in drawing those beauties!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 (edited) Came across this when going through my DEC 1991 vol.149 issue of the monthly Bandai Making Journal and strangely it refers to this design as the VS-XS. Both BMJ / B-Club were official Bandai publications back in the day and you'd think they get it right so is this a typo (or did Animage have the typo) or did it just change over time to conform to having a VF prefix ... anyone know? Edited November 2, 2021 by Bobby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 9 minutes ago, Bobby said: Came across this when going through my DEC 1991 vol.149 issue of the monthly Bandai Making Journal and strangely it refers to this design as the VS-XS. Both BMJ / B-Club were official Bandai publications back in the day and you'd think they get it right so is this a typo (or did Animage have the typo) or did it just change over time to conform to having a VF prefix ... anyone know? Probably typo on Animage end? Macross Mecha Manual filed that as VF-XS Valkyrie II. The text descriptions was translated from Animage magazine Vol. 161 (1991). http://www.macross2.net/m3/macross2/vf-xs.htm http://www.macross2.net/m3/macross2/vf-xs-super.htm  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolt Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Very interesting. Good catch ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketchley Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 6 hours ago, Bobby said: Came across this when going through my DEC 1991 vol.149 issue of the monthly Bandai Making Journal and strangely it refers to this design as the VS-XS. Both BMJ / B-Club were official Bandai publications back in the day and you'd think they get it right so is this a typo (or did Animage have the typo) or did it just change over time to conform to having a VF prefix ... anyone know?  Well, considering that the article also introduces it as "the Valkyrie from 300 years later", I'm guessing that this was bleeding news at the time of publication, and the creators of Macross II were still in the process of developing the OVA. ... is it just me, or does it only have 1 (one) head laser? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolt Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Has two head lasers. One is pointing at the viewer. I believe.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) 38 minutes ago, sketchley said: Well, considering that the article also introduces it as "the Valkyrie from 300 years later", I'm guessing that this was bleeding news at the time of publication, and the creators of Macross II were still in the process of developing the OVA. ... is it just me, or does it only have 1 (one) head laser? 4 minutes ago, Bolt said: Has two head lasers. One is pointing at the viewer. I believe.. If you guys checked the link I provided above it mentioned that: Quote The VF-XS is also notable for being armed with a single head cannon and a unique gun pod. It is also notable that the VF-XS head unit features a single cannon mounted upon the right side while the left side appears to mount an additional camera and/or sensor. The single cannon has lead many fans to designate the VF-XS as an A-type variable fighter, in the tradition of the single-cannon VF-1A Valkyrie. http://www.macross2.net/m3/macross2/vf-xs/vf-xs-battroid.gif  Edited November 3, 2021 by no3Ljm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolt Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Ah so...🤠Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 It seems possible then Animage's article in Nov '91 was during a time when the design and naming were still under development (and both did change). Since 300yrs would have passed, maybe they were debating if the prefix should change from VF to something else since a precedent had not yet been established per say. The later published Bandai Monthly Journal Dec '91 shed some light on what they'd decided (VS-XS). If we fast forward to May of '92 once MII's officially released we see for the final design they went the conventional route of following a VF-1 (A/J/S) with a VF-2 (SS). I can also see how one could assume the initial draft design should then be given an VF prefix, however I can't find any publication after May '92 actually calling it that. Could it be VF-XS is an assumption then if the last known publication referencing Ohata's design calls it a VS-XS? I went through all my books (e.g. Entertainment Bible #51, B-Club's #73 & #79, Hobby Japan #9/92, MechaPress Jan/Feb '93, This is Animation Special Macross II, Bandai Monthly Journal #149, Macross II The RPG, Macross Chronicle #21 & #52, Macross II Viz Graphics Novel, and I know there's still at least one other B-Club reference) and none of them reference a VF-XS that I know of. I guess the right question is what is the last official publication of this design and it's name? ... is it the Dec of 1991 calling it VS-XS or is it VF-XS from a later date? I'd just like to know so I can start hunting for it to add to my collection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Bobby said: I guess the right question is what is the last official publication of this design and it's name? ... is it the Dec of 1991 calling it VS-XS or is it VF-XS from a later date? I'd just like to know so I can start hunting for it to add to my collection. This is just based on the credits footnote from the Macross Mecha Manual listing for VF-XS. Animage 11 Vol. 161 (1991). Quote Translated information from Animage 11 Vol. 161 Images From - Animage 11, Vol. 161 (1991) C. Wilson - Writer, Editor and Colorist You mentioned your copy is Vol. 149, Dec 1991. Not sure what month is Vol. 161 they mentioned in the description since it says 1991 as well. Hope @Seto Kaiba or @Mr March can chime in on the subject.  *Edit: I found this Animage 11 (dated November Heisei 3 in Japanese calendar)(1991) cover featured in the Books section of the Macross Mecha Manual where they got the information of the VF-XS from. Edited November 3, 2021 by no3Ljm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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