pochimus prime

how about some bt-3025 action?

Yeah. Waiting impatiently on the Warhammer/Destroid Tomahawk to join the fun, too.

Bro where did you get that madcat??? That's one of my tow favorite mechs!!! is that a 1/60 scale?

yes! I've been wanting one like this as well I'm too scared to transform my valk back to fighter without a guide:(

Ohh? i thought there was some extra type of articulation in the legs? have you got a 1/48? is it the same or?

Not too worried coz the 1/48 legs were ok, not great (like 19/51 legs - and i do know they are different valks lol)

Nope, I don't own a 1/48 yet well, hopefully if a deal pushes through this weekend, I'll be able to own a 1/48 instead of a second 1/60 Actually, there's a healthy amount of articulation, there was just a certain post I wanted to do but I couldn't, but it's no biggie

I wanted the left shin to face forward, but as said, it's really very minor

honestly im more excited on the upcoming chunky munkies with FP's.

so far no major improvements yet since the last time i visited this thread

true, most of the pics being posted here are the older prototypes it seems Bandai's getting very secretive on the progress of their VF-25

Thanks for the response guys

I've PM'ed the seller and I'm waiting for his reply hopefully, I get first dibs

There's been quite a bit of "Bandai is going to make it awesome, they have a history of making awesomely complex transformable toys, forget their past history with macross because now is now and go with what they've done recently. And people who don't think it will turn out well are Yamato fanboys." There has been a fair share of "Bandai has a history of not giving a crap about Macross in the past, I don't know how this is going to turn out."

With the current price point, these 1/60 VF-25s aren't what I would consider to be priced for kids. I know what we've seen have been prototypes, but they've looked wonky and out of proportion. With as much experience as Bandai is supposed to have with transforming toys, I'm disappointed with what they've shown.

I love some of the stuff Bandai puts out, and know they are capable of putting out top notch toys. What they've shown looks like a step above the old Yamato 1/72 valkyries, but not quite as good as the version-1 1/60VF-1.

True, and lack of updated prototypes is further fueling debates. Bandai's been making top-caliber collectible toys outside Macross and afaik this is the first time they'll give the Macross line the same treatment. Of course, when it comes to Macross stuff, Yamato proved themselves to be the king of the hill. Still, I do want more companies to vie for that title. If nothing else, it'll assure us that they'll keep churning out quality products so as not to be eaten by the competition.

In that, I don't see people who would hold out on these VF-25 Bandais as Yamato fanboys. Most likely, they want to wait and see how it goes. It also doesn't mean that they think of Bandai as being incompetent overall, only that they're benchmarking Bandai's first attempt at collectoble Macross stuff against Yamato's proven track record which isn't really a bad thing.

In that, I personally don't care who manufactures the figs, just as long as they're in scale and that overall quality's top-notch.

I'd also like to know those that voted on these:

"Mine is not broken or perfect but I have complaints. " For one, it'll help Yamato improve their products further.

Though I voted for perfect, I do have a few very minor complains (that didn't really affect my overall score):

1. The visor's too dark that it's almost black.

2. Yamato's stickers still leave much to be desired.

3. It's tricky to transform due to the way you have to place/remove the t-brace to the nose cone.

4. Additional articulation in the legs could've helped more but really, it doesn't mean that current articulation doesn't cut it.

No other complaints here. Much was said about the giraffe neck, but it frankly didn't bother me at all.

Well, EXO and Omegablue both made valid points. Omega gave us a glimpse of a point-of-view of designers and manufacturers (which we do need to know about as well), while EXO's gave a consumer's point-of-view. Both aren't representative of the whole but both did present some arguments that ring true. Could we focus on those and get along?

Depending on the price your talking about, I'd go for the 1/48. I would think that the 1/60 version will be more available later on if you decide to switch, though the 1/60 strike is sold out for now. Every time I see a 1/48 for sale I feel like buying it, even though I got doubles of everything. It's like my Catcher In the Rye from Conspiracy Theory.

A new 1/60 sells for about $145 here, and the second-hand 1/48 with FP I saw was exactly the same price

@ lowviz:

hmm, redtube, I have to check that out

Question:

Someone's selling a 1/48 DYRL Roy with Super and Strike Parts for the same price as that of a brand new 1/60 V2. I was planning to get a second 1/60 roy for a diorama until I saw this. If you were me, would you buy this 1/48, or go with the 1/60 instead?

the bronze is my favorite of the lot.

There are two kinds of action bases, the one posted there and another which is larger and designed for larger 1/100 kits. Those will easily support a Valk's weight AND can extend their support arm to about a foot in length.

http://www.hlj.com/product/BAN948216

Seeing that flexidisplays are up for order, I may have to get myself a couple of those, too, though.

Cool! I'll check this out this weekend the 6" Flexidisplay is said to be out on October, so these Action Base 1's will do while I wait

Not the matter of holding the weight, just that they are a whopping 15 cms too short.

Oh hehe so not a viable alternative in any way then

We are talking about the action bases aren't we? http://www.hlj.com/product/BAN950659 I have two of these, they are great for 1/144.

Yup, that's the one I was thinking of buying these for the 1/60s, but I don't think they'd be able to hold up the valks in battroid mode

I dunno if there is a way to make them bigger, but they a short arse stands, not worth it.

I guessed as much I was looking for a cheaper alternative to the Flexidisplay (as the S&H to my country effectively doubles the price ) that I can buy locally.

Criticism and complaining are fine, and nobody should be betting all of their chips on Bandai or any company, but lets use some common sense. The only thing we can fairly or somewhat accurately base our expectations on for the Bandai MF toys are the high-end toys Bandai has made in the last few years because THAT is where Bandai is right now. They're not back in in the 1990's making cheap and chunky M7 toys for kids. The most obvious thing to look back at for comparison s the DX Aquarion toy, especially since it's from the same toy line and from a Kawamori design, but people would rather ignore that and point at toys that are 10 to 25 years old.

That said, I'd LOVE to see Bandai or another company make a 'retro' style 25 with the same blocky and chunky design of the old 1/55.

You're right I just realized that they're veterans in collectible toys. Their SoC line's really great, just look at how Voltes V turned out. (Background: here in the Philippines, Voltes V is extremely popular even today thanks to the great support of a local TV network). This gives me much more renewd faith in these VF-25's

@ Fly4victory:

Thanks

Why so serious?

most appropriate response ever

has anyone tried using the gundam stands? they seem like good, cheap alternatives I know they'll work well in fighter mode, but I don't know if they'll hold up valks in battroid.

Haven't tried yet one of our members at cybph did i think If not, I'll try it

To all who are interested, here's the response I got from gaoJP of cybph:

Yesterday at 9:50pm, iampoch wrote:

bro gaoJP:

were you able to use the ver. 1 GBP armor to the ver. 2? How does it fit?

It cant fit bro. The gbp version fits the version 1 snugly, considering that the version 2 1/0 is bgger its a very tight fit.

So the GBP is incompatible with the ver 2. I guess you can force it to fit with modifications and stuff, but I'd rather wait for the GPB ver. 2 than going through that hassle. For its purpose, though, I'm completely happy with ver. 1 1J+GBP as it'll just stay as a display piece anyway I'll bebuying a stand for it so that I can pose it like it'll rain down its missiles in mid-air or in space

Ver. 1 FPs are also incompatible with Ver. 2. We'll need to treat these Ver. 2's for what they are: a completely new 1/60 design

thats an awesome pose of the v.1 1/60 VF-1J GBP-1S.

have you tried adding on some of the armour like a member here already mentioned?

The arm armour might work..

Haven't tried yet one of our members at cybph did i think If not, I'll try it

I'll share my pics

I hope they don't include other pilots other than Hik civy flightsuit and Minmay red dress, unelss they will release a separate version. (never see other pilots with 1D)

Perhaps we are being too hopeful for a separate free falling Minmay fig, but rather we can still clamp battroid hand around seated Minmay and it still looks good.

yup, that'll be great for the 1D Civ-suited Hikaru and Lynn

best avatar... ever.

haha thanks

As for the matter at hand, it's really unavoidable to compare Bandai's foray out of their usual "chunky money" editions to Yamato's. After the 1/48's Yamato became the yardstick over all others will be measured up. Their praise-worthy execution of the 1/60 perfect transformation further upped the ante. However, I do welcome Bandai in their effort, and if I see potential in their VF-25, I'll support them as much as I'll support Yamato. I want each of them to give each other hefty competition. This'll up the quality and make the price more competitive. Go Yamato.Go Bandai. Consumers win

And,yes, it's good to complain or criticize the products because if we just keep our mouths shut, they won't really grasp what their customers want. I do agree that complaining and bashing are two different things. Just for the record, though, I didn't think EXO bashed Bandai for their efforts.

My 1/60's shoulders come apart easily.

Could you provide pics, more details on the problem, and what fix you did? It'll help any of us who'll encounter it. I'll be getting another one this weekend (for a diorama). I'll see how that turns up.

yes, more news has it been confirmed if the VF-25S will be packaged with a full armor? That's the package I want to get: VF-25S + Full armor and VF-25F + Super Armor if those packages are possible.