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Original .... I don' know much about american cars but it reminds me of Starky and Hutch , no offense, it's pretty original thought but the body work is uncertain. Looks like it gobbles up a lot of core, and the exhaust must spit a lot of it too. But it's must be really cool to drive in this kind of car . The yellow color is not a fashionable here , the only cars who you see more with that color are the renault twingo or mail car but the mustand touch is not that bad . The wheels are a tad too flashy, but otherwise, I'd hit it. you can't Each his own ! For the french one , well I kind of prefer the chevrolet camaro than some of this : I don't like the color either Blue with red hum hum hum French car + supra motor? nippon ^-^ the new 308 CC Mode decapotable Sober but functional ? Not for tomorrow.... For me I will say the best is the more ecolo << I'm joking but it will be : Audi R8 V10 535C une bete de scene ! soft ?! My future car

Not now I hope not, it's more memorable to kill the main character than wiping out frontier or Galaxy. I kind of like more the epic style than the last one. Welcome to the " we have been traped " fanclub . It was well done also, but how many times he could have ? As for Michel I keep thinking so too but caution is really the key to safety . - I don't think we will see them again and for what ? Take their Coaprovel each second ? Too boring... I will wait 'til the final episode For us !

Too much.... How mean ! She is apparently not on your list I was expected him to die and not at the same time, no, honestly I took the bait . He sure is lucky ,even too much... Kawamori sure knows how to prolong the suspens until the end .

I just figured it out : I put them all....but Luca will be safe and sound at the end, well, if there isn't any Nanase attack It's unlikely even if she 's so close to Ranka, sister is a big word for her role in the serie, but who know? Defective air bag ? For the next episode, Ozma is the first in the list, but like many said, it's too obvious with a title like that. However, the Bye Bye Sheryl in episode 6 was very misleading so I don't think they will play the same trick knowing everyone expect his survival. It can become a really unexpected episode if they kill him or if they put him in the go missing box, and make him come back later( I know it's pure science fiction .Until now his character wasn't really developped ; I don't think he can become a hero for Alto like Roy was for hikaru but if he dies here it will be a set piece for Alto,Ranka and Sheryl growth. Or you can just imagine they're talking about Michel and Klan relationship which take a new twist . For the rest of the episode and people who surely can die I will say Grace for sure even if she was already , Ozma( they can leave him a chance but not twice ) or Cathy( Between the two but not both otherwise it would be called a tragedy ) , Michel( He reminds me of roy who enjoyed too much his life and we all know what happenned...), and the president Glass ( ..was too much confident in the last episode and even if he is such a passive character a little 24H sauce could be entertaining). Brera, Ranka, Sheryl probably may die , (and I just though about the high possibilty for Alto to die it could be a easy way to please everyone with the love triangle ) but I will wait to see for those four , if the grim reaper did her job with the others

I missed the door , really ! It was pretty interesting but since a warning is a warning ... Paris, France. Hi and this will be all for today Bye.

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Make sure you vote for the right girl Close to... You should do it but it will be boycott at some point They are few, but i think for some who claim the loli kind ,klan klan micronized is cute but seems more young than Ranka. You're an exception You have voted ? Such a traitor Number 1 in macronized form surely

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Too bad... you can vote just once My thought exactly Our favorite MF Girls so far ... How can it change even after 5 episode ? It's really seldom to see people switch their mind mostly with Macross Girls. It's not like the former poll with who's gonna end up with who but who do you like the best ?! Poor Ranka, against Grace she can still stand up but with you she is definitely dead and buried

The inescapable... For me it's more the inverse with the whole fairy9 who killed Sheryl's chances with Ranka the q1 wich comes after and makes the thing more well-ajusted. So, the show promises to be not so good for both of them, with obviously an end not so " happy" for Sheryl , either in the plot (what is she? will she survive? Connection with Grace and Brera..) or in the romance( Until now ,I don't see the so called predictions comed true, well nobody can become a forecaster ) Disturbing no ? At least they will be aware of it in the last episode or before her possible death I'm laughing myself ( even if I can be a part of it , but I doubt because there is always worse ) The two things can also be possible but it's very probable. Or soap opera

Why ? Looks like Sheryl is in a desperate situation... The question could also be why Kawamori wants Ranka for Alto or why he won't change his mind ? . The story is already written , it doesn't matter if someone or another person or batch of people like it or not because their favorite character take a bad shape. We all know that even if you are complaining you will keep watching it until the end( romance is not what make Macross, it's just a big part of it ! You should be glad if she even succeed in staying alive...) And, I have been spoiled ? A lot of why to the misfortune, not the why to the bliss

Vajra/Human/Cyborg It's what makes the show!! It remind me the change of the plot and I think it was just just at the beginning but I don't remember it well. In any case it's a solid argument for burying once and for all the so-called Sheryl-Alto end if of course her role is already written and don't include a meaningful change.(Even if it's not the case, well, the 12th and 13th episode were....explicit. She will not (Ranka) end with Brera, that for sure.... It's a good thing that she was added to the plot between Alto and Ranka or it will be too obvious, so kind of.. boring but she is like many character of this show not a human or most likely not. She most be like Brera a cyborg, android or something like that. If you erase all the happy ending ,Ranka has high chances to be linked to the destiny with the vajra(a goodbye humans, human sacrifice, at the end if she doesn't end up with Alto)... so be Sheryl with her compatriot or cyborg race (killed by Grace, downloaded in a new boby but not anymore memory like Brera....) <<Well, I can't even imagine her in love( Grace and Brera don't even know this word(Something went wrong in the download for Sheryl ? ) , and considered her as a failure who is not worth living) if she is a cyborg...we aren't in DBZ when C18 the robot girl + Krilin = babies or Battlestar with the humans + cylon = the chosen one so she has vervy very very little chance to end up with someone no matter who , included Alto of course . It's more a melting of everybody in every character of Macross but even if Sheryl is more like Minmey and Ranka like Misa, they will surely not end up like them or at least for one of these two. Ranka REMEMBERS LOVE what a wordplay + Ranka is like Minmey BEFORE she wins the Miss Macross contest and changes diametrically <<I agree with you here, she dares now, I already said it but Minmey is far awy behind Ranka... The Sheryl is compared to a guy Definitely not a Sheryl supporter, some green tea maybe ? She's not out there trying to save the universe with her music..., not now but maybe with Ranka at the end of the show( although a statu-quo ending is never a good thing, a winner is an obligation, whatever the camp ) Concerning the music sweet song suit Ranka's voice better.

Quiproquo/Imbroglio Like always I would like to say!! It was the same thing when Ranga went to his scool ,got a manager and made her debut he was such an egoist person... Well, she already was implicite in the car in the first episode and in episode 10. It's not that he is deaf but most likely he pretended he didn't understand( Even though he was deaf when she thanks him). Relating to the future episode, ( I'm not a forecaster so I will not say I'm sure about what I'm saying(even though I voted in this poll ) it will be likely more SherylXAlto episode with a lot of imbroglio just as the (Sheryl fan), I prefer supporter ^^ , so just as the Sheryl supporters are saying with a turn around at the end. This could sound very preposterous of me but I don't know how people can be so sure about Brera being Ranka's brother. Maybe I am half asleep when I was watching these episode but except for the photo in the GLOBAL (with little Brera and Ranka, the fact that he cares a lot about her , Ozma speech with a lost brother who was replaced by him) Her real brother could have been killed with the others in the fleet and Brera could have been the son of the baby sitter << the most unlikely I admit it ,or, a cyborg since the beginning ( well Ranka is not normal either) who,which ?! with his harmonica should ring a bell about Ranka's mission(Vajra..). Something went wrong and he was download in another body without his memory. until here it's ok but wasn'it too obvious since the beginning ? I mean ok He most likely can be her brother but saying " she had a brother " (Ozma, episode 3 I think or 2)and just after that exposing a character who knows the song Aimo ( episode 7 in the battlefield ), so 4, 5 episode and that'it = he is her brother... well again, it'the more plausible but I want a damning evidence not some old pictures which doesn't prove any kindship except the fact that they were living together like brother and sister . He will definitely be a part of the love triangle but as what ? I don't know if it's Ozma or him or if one of those death will answer at the question. It's just that it was , suggest too soon, too obvious but maybe I can't expect too much suspens in this subject.

Melting characters I have an inclination to do so, I admit it, since this poll at the beginning was more about popularity for some people but now it seems to change sowly with still a leg up to Sheryl. I can understand that Sheryl is to your liking( I don't know if it can be write like that... I don't want to be misunterpreted^^ ), both in her character design and her character. If I had be more persistent here, well, I would be biased. !We agree here. But... The first love part was just a small example to show the most important one about the way they showed the characters. It's obvious that they aren't the same: Misa,Sheryl,Ranka,Minmey but they do share similarities like I said. It's a melting of personalities for me compared with SDF Macross : Misa + Sheryl = strong personality # Sheryl + Minmey = the pop design kind Ranka + Misa = the natural behaviour( never too much) # Ranka + Minmey = the damsel in distress girl For Macross Zero it's actually the same kind of melting : Sara + Sheryl = 0 interest in love 1th but after it changed # Mao + Sheryl = the same unrequited love(I don't want to be shelled but for now..) Sara + Ranka = power of song with Bird human/Vajra # Mao + Ranka = the loli girl design , easily fascinated , infatuated with a pilot.. Well it's better to illustre it in this way than with words or long sentences I think . Well I don't like moe stars too, but for me there il a very very very long gap between Minmey style and Ranka kind. I don't like it when sometimes it's too much or too play up like they portray Sheryl in both her character and design. By the way I didn't think like that with Misa because she was not: ...; too much for me but ...in moderation However Minmey was such a damsel in distress that I may sound paradoxal here for rooting for Ranka now even though Misa character was better written. Well there's something for everyone!And SDF is not Frontier. I'm and I will, I think , always be amazed by how we can't help but simply cannot see the same thing in a same scene but we can intrepreting it in a complete opposite point of view. I agree with you when you say She was so excited about giving him something that he really desired that she actually forced herself to go, ok and with : Had he not wanted it, he might have gone to see his father instead( it's obvious since it's his family and Ranka didn't say much about the encounter...) but not with: She was glad that he came because she was unsure of what she would find on Gallia IV regarding the rumored Galaxy survivors<< If so, she could have ask for a real pilot/bodyguard not for Alto ( in episode 12 Alto was not a super, bersek,fighter like now.....so you're right she's a pretty audacious girl for wanting him to protect her ) I was talking about her comment to Ranka about the birthday present which for me was useless because it encourages her and gives her too high hope for after make an offer which cannot be turn down.. Looks like I'm not the only one who praise this loli girl I think she doesn't look too much weak now compared to the first episode! She know it very well now, but I don't know how she will proceed to make her move ?! ( look cannot work, the star card either, the VF+Sheryl move ?! , maybe but with a great effort .) ) Well I don't know who you're talking about but for me, it was most the "natural behaviour," not too much, but "in moderation " kind of character over than the natural feminity You was as tired as I was so don't be concerned I thought the same thing the character designer got her start doing hentai when I fist saw her, she can be sweet in some way not so! She is the best friend of Ranka but for me she seems ....weird It's like she doesn't have a utility when Ranka is not around... It's certainly due to her luck these weeks according to her love interest, her carrer... and we don't see Klan so often except when Mikhail or SMS is around

Laugher is healthy I'm sorry if I'm responding to posts which were not directly address to me but I guess I'm pretty inspired when one take liberties We really misunderstood at first. How can I ever be mistaken like that even though you're such a discerning person If you like as much my name just change yours No, seriously, I'm so unfair with you're Queen, Goddess, Beloved, Sheryl that I'm accused to be a fake first and now I am complete idiot ? Westlo, I do not judge virtual people : but hum!! I think I have replied to you concerning Sheryl , you didn't replied so you don't have the right to tell me about misunderstanding even though you don't even bother to tell me where I'm wrong ." Rubi is wrong so decided Westlo:Amen Well, I don't have anything to add, Your honour ! Rubi this rubi that , what the hell did I do this time ? let's discover it !! Oh.... Westlo, you're able to fairly judge while I can't...oh and more, I make up fallacies to prove my point that Sheryl is superior.. Me ? you hurt me here ! What can I say here you already made up your mind aren't you ?! Well I must suffer from mythomania at this point ... I don't want to waste my time but since I'm surfing on the net now...According to you, people shouldn't bother to convince me however "I don't think it's worth trying to convince rubi " + "if you wanted to compare me to rubi" + "I'm saying I can do that while rubi can't".... === For an irretrievable person like me , you do know well how to speak about me and instead of me moreover you are wasting your time with me <<< What a paradox!! I'm really touched So do I, but I'm inspired so : Mistress Sheryl wrapped a collar around me when she said Strawberry Pie!<< WOW biased fan aren't you ?! Can someone tell me why Ranka, the main female character, has 12 votes, and Sheryl, the OTHER main female character, has 83 votes? <<QUOTE (freya@ Because Sheryl is awesome.<<Westlo Hum I though that Sheryl popularity wasn't because of her look but for her character ; and yet you explained me so well why she has a high popularity..... speechless QUOTE (Keith @ Jun 10 2008, 11:35 PM) * Definately Sheryl, I'd be extremely surprised if she didn't wind up with Alto. Westlo : If you follow anime trends Ranka is a 90% chance to win... seriously the amount of women in Sheryl's mold who wins is low... Last one.. maybe Shuffle? Thankfully Kawamori bucks the trend with his women... let's hope he doesn't slip up here.<< in the freya poll you're saying that we all know who is going to win talking about Sheryl << another paradox!! hum Like VF-25 Messiah said : I say we just leave it instead ?!( It's annoying to come into this play picking up sentences, finding out,So silly but yeah yeah I'm young(it(s a good argument no? ) I know...) >> we should all respect the wise common saying " act you age " no ?! ( Thanks to you I may improve my english ) so It's not that bad !!! Westlo, I'm really concerned, BREATHHHHHHHHHHHHH It's just an anime it's not like I have committed a crime because I expose my point of view , really!! It's a friendly advice !!Hope you don't hold a grudge it's just ......well......... my regular ironic way of expressing my disagreement !! So grin and beat it like me !! By the way I take off some smiley .I don't think I can double-posted to reply to the others and I also don't want to write a novel(if it's not too late) , So I will do so after !

Who will win Alto ? In a double game or fair play ?

Ideal VS Virtual Reality I agree with you, allowing that their ideal (for girls and boys) of hot,cunning woman just prevent them to see what is simply obvious. You can also say that they're the same who love to compare Ranka and Minmey(pretending that the guy often end up with the adult/mature ? one) but de facto, Misa is obviously more natural than Sheryl and as natural as Ranka who seems to take of the two old female character in SDF M. I guess it was so from the beginning ... I don't have the same point of view when it concerned Sheryl character. For me , she's not such an independant person as you claim. Well maybe before the 5Th episode when we see her express exactly what she want from Grace and yet, it seems that she think she's above all that( she sure does know how to give orders ) but after that , she nothing but someone who pretend to act like a busy body person who does everything in solo... Hum if it wasn't for her manager Grace I don't even think she can live by herself... She for sure, know what she wants and doesn't wait to seize it ( I'm talking about the 12th episode with the endless sky... too cunning for Ranka ) There is an edge to her personality that makes her seem very adult which probably comes from growing up without any close relations and that maturity is also very appealing. Anyways, while looks are what usually catches a person's interest at first, they can be taken only so far before people being to lose interest. She obviously appears to be more mature than Ranka but adult ?!<<< she is always stuck to Alto like glue,at school, start date, fastest delivery, always wants to interfere when he is whith Ranka so if she is adult, she grown up alone without family but with all what a girl like Ranka could dream (fame,money,beauty...), she was also rating herself too hightly which leaded her where she is now, she is too straigtforward >> The jealous women are the most deceived

My,My.... it wasn't supposed to be a novel... For some, it could be the same question All depend on the Macross F authors but the politically correct show with the innocent girl and the modern one can certainly influence the story due to like you said: Japanese rules. For the example with North america I cannot say too much with the horror films(well I'm not a fan of bloody scene like SAW, it was enough for me) In any case, here horror films have the look of comedy or hilarious parody so I can't speak without know! Ahem. Anyway, always felt like these votes are hardly a "who do you think..." type poll, rather they're a "who do you _want_..." type poll. As such I feel the poll will differ very little from the female popularity poll. (Is this poll a continuation of that one? the lines are muddled even more) Personally, I still feel it's too early to tell who our flying kabuki princess is going to end up with. Members of both camps will point to various clues and proclaim them proof to try and convince everyone otherwise. We've had hints from both sides, but nothing I would call cold hard evidence. As such I'll refrain from voting for now. I'm sorry , but I don't think that the switch in Sheryl character in episode 5 Start Date can explain her current popularity which is obviously far away ahead Ranka. Of course her behaviour with the attack during the concert with a total indifference towards the audience at the concert with the sentence " this is a job for the professionals" leaded her towards less fans because she was too much .... but you can't speak about an explosion of her popularity now because she is the cool girl,flirt with Alto ... If you say so, how can you explain the vision of Sheryl fans in episode 12 when she perfectly knew the intention of Ranka to give Alto a ticket for her concert but played a doubled game in going to Galia IV with him ?... You all say that it's the life... This shows well how subjective you are when it comes to Sheryl<< So she is not judged according to her personality and character but according to your first impression of her = Sheryl looks mature...et patati et patata.. Concerning the Sheryl fan club female in the other forums you're right , ranka just beats Sheryl in popularity polls, but she beats her anyway!, for the girls in the others forums who are for Ranka : Are you sure they're girls ? << Everyone is free to think what they want, you say they're in majority women but the majority is not everyone! You look like a sheryl fan for the first episode so it's sure you will agree with me when I say that you're not a part of the people who favoured the explosion of Sheryl popularity after the 5th episode because you're a part of the people who were already behind her even before her good transformation Apologies accepted. We surely misunderstood each other so let's move on Not since the 13th episode when he started to blushed around her at every glance like a kid. I think this is actually the opposite ( This is more Alto who is becoming more and more and child who don't even know how to express his feeling << OMG either this is the hour or I'm into the soap opera now... He did not went for her but for the endless sky she sold him ( gratis ) Merci Sumdumgai !! C'est clair que essayer de trouver les mots justes et sans fautes c'est la CATA!! I too thought that Alto was a total jerk in episode 12 or when Ranka transfers to his school with his ahh ok it's cool attitude<< hum sure she is too better for him... but if you think so, you consider that Sheryl deserves him more than her ( well if you want to say that this is because Sheryl + Alto = Parce que je le vaut bien )!! Hum well I can't object here Well let me be a girl and say this : AMEN!

To fend for writing in another language when I know that I'm far far away of the accurate ( If I could I would have been more active don't you think ?), I'm not a Messiah Try writing in French, without being preposterous, it will be the same thing if not worst (hum)

THE THRUTH I am sure at 100% that the 14 members who vote for Sheryl in this poll are men... I'm not saying that all of the men don't even have an objective point of view when a BOMB or HOT girl is concerned, but come on!!! It's pretty obvious here that you, guys ,didn't even bother to answer the question and just vote Sheryl because she is the most attractive... Knowing that kawamori didn't even wanted for Shery to be the part of the love triangle but just the singer who inspires Ranka shows well that they add her at the plot because they did know that will bring a lot of fans with a lot who will take the bait... I know that I can't generalize and there are girls who like more Sheryl than Ranka because of her cheerful character, she knows what she wants etc... But, again, it seems that a lot of Sheryl fans are guys and you can freely says that the end will not be as expected for sheryl contrary to all of your " we all know who's going to romp home and win this" ..my my... Well, we wil see what will happen but as for now (with a Alto who is fond of Ranka or obviously more) the only way for sheryl to end with Alto is : 1) the dead Ranka 2) her own death 3)a pretty surreal comic show made by your desire to see your fantasm girl ending up with the main guy who suits her the most ( don't dream guys I'm not speaking of you).. and all this high comedy will take place in episode 20 so WATCH IT : the knight Alto will have 6 episode (if you consider that it will have just 1 season), he will have 6 episodes to accomplish the impossible mission , that is to say , saying " finaly I don't like Ranka " , " I will go for Sheryl" ( The DYRL scenario is out of question because Minmey x Kaifunn got in the way) and Kawamori can't repeat the same old story..; I can proudly say that i have voted for Ranka and I am a woman but( I will not buy the women voted for Ranka so all what I said about the sheryl 's fanclub can be said for me too) I didn't vote for Ranka face(well even if I had you could say that I'm blind..) nobody is perfect