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Hey, you got a better way to rebuild a species in a hurry? It makes perfect sense. And that DOES make sense? There were so many zentradi ships you couldn't see through the cloud. I'm suprised they weren't shooting EACH OTHER while bombarding the planet. The odds of any signifigant population of humans surviving were pretty slim. I know what the Compendium says... I don't think you're realizing how BIG the Earth actually is. The major population centers would surely be annihilated. But there's no reason for the Zentraedi to hit hardly anything in the middle of North Dakota or Siberia or North Korea, or the island of Maya, for example. Maybe the most major towns but outside of them? And sure we're talking about wiping out the majority of our population but EVERYTHING outside of the Grand Cannons? Nonsensical. If they were trying to exterminate, then biological weapons and/or the complete eradication of the surface is necessary (top kilometer), including oceans and all the uncounted little islands out there (Maya anyone?). But over FOUR million gigantic ships... Name four million cities, towns, villages plus collateral damage and humanity is near annihilated... The Grand Cannon did destroy a lot of them, but I doubt that it had took out more than 5% of all the nme ships. Bingo. They'd already SHOWN that a Zentradi fleet was capable of sterilizing a planet, reducing an Earth-type planet to something more along the lines of the moon. Sure some stuff lived, mainly in caves and the ocean, but most of the planet was reduced to a lunar landscape. Remember, what you see around the Grand Cannon after Hikaru rescues Misa is Middle-of-nowhere, Alaska. That used to be a nice thick blanket of snow before the attack, instead of a lunar landscape. And Alaska isn't very densely populated. It wouldn't have been a prime target(the Grand Cannon being undetected untill it fired). You're forgetting something. We do see a real statistic on how much of the surface got destroyed on Admiral Hayase's status screen in the Grand cannon. There are large areas that were in fact spared from destruction. As you can see much of the American breadbasket was spared (very good for reconstruction), as is much of eastern South America (most likely where Quamzim's found his gunboat), Eurasia has gotten pretty pasted though parts of Spain and Italy seem to have faired well, Central Africa seems OK, and almost half of Australia survived. Now given that this shot was taken right after the intial salvo, I don't think that much more damage was done. Remember right after this shot, they fire the Grand Cannon, and right after that the Macross and Vrlitwhai begin their counter attack, so most of the bombardment ships become otherwise occupied.

I liked it. It seems to me that while they didn't answer anyone's questions, they did give us enough clues to figure it out for ourselves, that in itself is cool. Now we just need to figure it out. One little piece of this puzzle no one else seems to have noticed: Did anyone else notice that Big Venus's head showed up before in the first season on the body of a different Mega Deaus? And in that episode Angel was yelling at Roger not to destroy the head because that's where the memories are stored? I haven't figured out the signifigance of that but I'm sure there is one.

The C version also has reworked Micro Missile ports. I still think I would be remiss in not including it.

Well look at that you can edit attachments now! As soon as I get home I'll fix it.

Yeah sorry about that I forgott I made it so huge. I meant to say I was working on a B version of a FAST pack equiped VF-11.

This did take me a while. THis is the blank I used for the picture above. I spent about a week and a half tracing from several of the VF-11 squadron colors available on the interent. I'm working on FAST pack equiped versions (both B and C) and maybe even a top view. All are free to use it, I just ask that you give me credit for the orgininal.

Here's something I banged out today. I think we all recognize who's VF this is:

A quick thought on the Megaroad going to the center of the galaxy. I don't think that the Megaroad's destination was the center of the galaxy, rather it was just on it's way to where it was going, which was likely the other side of the galaxy.

Well both the AFOS and the Protodevelin were built by the Protoculture, it's not surprising that they'd be stylistically similar, while not necesarily being directly related.

Too true. My one caveat would be that the UN armed forces primary foe even after Space War One is some ten meters tall. Thus standard sized infantry might not play as big a role as it does now.

Well the traditional way of spelling it has been Millia. However even official sources translate it in different ways.

Here's how I could see a modern (say 2050 era) assault from orbit on a heavily defended planet. Capital ships move into the area and start making forays into the orbital plane. I doubt they could get to close to the planet at first since anything from orbital defense platforms (like the ones in M+) to extremely heavy ground based installations would make that impossible. Stealth VFs (VF-17s or VF-22s) would be sent in for first strikes against high value tragets like command and controll centers, later small forces of regular VFs would be sent in along with smaller capital ships (something along the lines of a Stargazer) to punch a hole in the orbital defenses. After that larger forces could be moved in, airstrikes against the surface (or against surface targets other than the anti capital ship stuff) could begin. Only after orbital superiority is acheived could ground operations begin. VFs would of course be deployed first, possibly while escorting transports carrying GBP armour to be attached once they hit the ground. VB-6s would come in very handy since they would allow these early landings to have some heavy fire support without first establishing a beachead. Once one is established though, larger landing ships could be moved in to discorge the heavier destorids to start the ground campaign. VFs would then move into more of a supporting role, flying CAS and escort for destroid divisions, until the planet has been pacified. edited to correct my atrocious gramar

Guld takes Isamu's gunpod and subsequently throughout the rest of the fight he is without it (Isamu's gunpod is conspicously absent in through the rest of the scene). Guld however still had his second gunpod, head laser, arm lasers, and plenty of missiles. There is a scene with Myung between when the Ghost first attacks Guld and Isamu and when we see Isamu use his gunpod again, so it is conceivable the he was able to retreive it.

Isamu did somehow regain his gunpod one scene later (one of the many continuity errors in episode 4). But if you watch everything before it it's quite clear Isamu lost his gunpod (you can see Guld grabn it and throw it away while they're fighting in the city, and afterwards it's gone for the rest of thier fight).

Uhh no advanced russian fighters?? The Mig 25 scared the Americans #$@# during the late 1960s...Especially when the Israelis couldn't touch a recon variant that was loaned to the syrians with their F-4s . The F-15 was given a crash building program as a result. I didn't say advanced I said pretty. The Russians have made plenty of advanced fighters over the years. It's just they all seem to have gotten a good whacking from the ugly stick.

I've never used Photoimpact so I don't know how you'd create layers in it (or if you can). Why can't your computer use PSP or Photoshop?

This might be getting a little to political but I had always just assumed that his status change was just another way to try to drum up support for the war. You'd think if the Iraqis still had him we would have found him by now.

Production F-22: I don't care that it used to be Lightning II (which I liked) or Rapier (which I didn't like), this plane just screams "Bird of Prey" which makes Raptor a very fitting name for it. Su-27 and variants: The first pretty Russian fighter that I can think of since WWII, with capabilities to match. F-86: the classic jet from the forgotten war. F-104 Starfighter: I loved this plane since I built a model of it when I was 7.

If Isamu were the one operating with a cool head, he would have been the one to systematically disarm Guld. But he didn't , he just fired away wildly expending his ammo, while Guld carefully removed his offensive weaponry. By the time Guld fired his missiles Isamu was defenseless, no gunpod, no lasers, no missiles. If Guld hadn't had his sudden epiphany he could have just fired off another shot and been done with it.

If you watch the battle in episode four, it's quite clear that Guld is the better pilot. While Isamu wasted ammo and made very few shots connect, Guld bided his time forcing Isamu to expend his ammo, while carfully removing Isamu's fixed weapons (blowing off his fast packs, stealing his gunpod and even nocking his head laser off). Only after Isamu was rendered virtually defenseless did he try to deliver a killing blow with his micro missiles.

One other thought on the YF-21's wing: If we're talking about which would make a better production plane, the morphing wing is right out. Composite materials (based upon OTM theories) which are capable of increasing or decreasing the wing cross section and area with feedback from the pilot's brainwaves. Due to the high cost and problems in the construction of the main wing's complex structure, this technology is not intended for mass production.

Something to consider about radiation. Power plants of any kind are juicy infastructure targets and would likely be at the top of any Zentradi target list. So it's quite likely that most of the worlds nuclear reactors were vaporized early on. considering the amount of radioactive material that would be atomised (most of which would go airborne) turining any nuclear reactors into the biggest "dirty bombs" in history. I'd imagine that most of the northern hemisphere would be rendered largely uninhabitable (I'd have to take a look at the jet-stream but I beilieve that Alaska would be spared).

Not that small! From a side view they look small but viewed head on they're quite large (take a look at the line art). And the YF-21's rudders cant deflect anything in high speed mode since they're folded against the body of the plane. At high speed the 19 would have it's canards, rudders, and thrust vectoring to controll it. The YF-21 would have TVC, and to a limited extent ailerons. If anything the YF-19 should be more maneuverable.

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All the of YF-19's controlls are not exclusively on the wings. In oversweep it would still have controll from it's canards, thrust vectoring and rudders. Similarly the YF-21 would lose some maneuverability in high speed configuration since it would lose the use of its rudders, and the angling of the wings would most likely kill alot of the authority of the ailerons. All of this is moot since we see both aircraft perform admirably in high speed configuration in ep 4. Actually it does, it's in the compendium and it's mentioned explicitly in the show.