BlueMax

Podcast are more entertaining than the show

I totally agree with that statement.

Excellent podcast for 24.

Mike's awesomeness seems to be directly proportional to the amount of screen/ action time/ intensity of Makina....

Don't worry Mike, I'm sure they'll pull through! I don't agree that the shot should have come from the front.... since you cited "padding"... lol. They still need her Hope and Dreams to anchor the fanboys!

Negative

What happened was basically very lazy writing.

if this show did not have "Macross" in its title, I would have totally written it off and refused to watch anymore episodes, and something tells me I'm not alone in this.

I really wonder if the speaker podcast crew think it is worth their time and effort in discussing the last 3-4 episodes.

I have the greatest respect for you guys and i really love to listen to you guys banter.

I mean, as a normal viewer, it left a pretty sour taste just watching it. Having to watch it and spend at least an hour discussing what are probably lame episodes, then editing it before posting it? I can't imagine what a chore it could be for you (unless you really enjoyed the episodes).

Just saw the Chinese subs. Very disappointed with this and the last few episodes. I used to be looking forward to what the next episode had to offer and hit the forums to see what kind of insight there are from others and perhaps join in the discussion. At this point, I seriously don't care about this series anymore. There isn't anything really new to discuss besides lamenting about how the producers are squandering the series (I think it is pretty much unanimous). What a shame too, since we only get a new Macross series/ OVA maybe once for every 2 Olympics summer games.

Perhaps the last few episodes will be different. Maybe, but I remember ourselves saying that a few episodes ago too, so, like I said, i don't really care at this point. Even through the rose tinted glasses as a Macross fan, this series had effectively jumped the shark since episode 13.

I'm actually surprised that Delta's music is doing as well as it is against Frontiers. Frontiers music is vastly superior IMO. Walkure has a couple good songs but they are no where in the same league as Frontier's music.

Lack of competition might be a factor

Neutral vote, bordering on negative. If I were a new comer to the series, the last 3-4 episodes would have put me off the series altogether. I'm only still in this because I am a a Macross fan. I'm in it for the Valkyries, I'm in it for VF combat, i'm in it for good songs, and a good story.

So far, after episode 13, we haven't have had much of these: The VFs were barely there, they were mostly sitting in their hangers, the songs don't really do it for me, and although there might be a good story, the pacing absolutely kills it.

The episode sees too much moping around, and by the time something exciting actually happens, sorry, time's up. Grrr!

I'm not even going to put spoiler tags because there is nothing much to spoil: 1/2 the people are moping around because of last episodes reveal, and pretty much the other 1/2 of the people are trying to reach Mikumo in the Hospital ship late in the episode.

That is all the episode is all about.

Plain boring and Chaos as a PMC is a poorly run entity where members have little sense of work ethics and professionalism. IE. they do things when they feel like it and have basically little discipline when it comes to their emotions.

Looking forward to it. Most war movies so far have been pretty much from the view of the United States (not that it is bad, just that there was more than just American troops being the Allied Army). Finally we have something from the POV of the British/ Commonwealth troops and by a director who has 1/2 his roots on British soil.

Hopefully it will be educational and entertaining.

I like to think of Ernest Johnson as someone like Kambei Shimada from <7 Samurai>, rather than an totally incompetent commander.

I quote this excerpt from this blog :

We learn Shimada..... has a long history of fighting on the losing side. “You’re overestimating me,” he says. “Listen, I’m not a man with any special skill, but I’ve had plenty of experience in battles; losing battles, all of them. In short, that’s all I am.” But we know he is much more.

Sounds like it can describe Ernest Johnson too.

I would apreciate some enlightenment as to where (as in series, novels, etc) one can see civilian market Valkyries. I seem to have missed this part.

(Basara's does not count, it was military surplus by way of connections).

Macross 7:

The episode where civillian VF-1s (and de-militarised Destroids) make appearances

Macross Dynamite 7:

VF-1 Whale Hunting Valks

Possibly VA-3s used by the whale poachers

The team is showing their work on the music. While this still does not get to the sheer awesomeness of Fukuyama or Kanno, they are not just making up for it with quantity as I thought before, but also with a well thought out line of development. All five singers have lead songs after ep 10, and then in ep 11 we get an attempt at blending their voices - done acapella and with clear demonstration, in animation, who joins at what time.

Agree the music is coming together, from the past 2-3 episodes. At the very least, the music is now able to flow with and amplify the action and emotions..... or in Delta's terms, "resonate" with the audience, echoing the "resonance" in the protoculture ruins.

Wait a minute......

Is Kawamori trolling us by suggesting we, the audience (likely in our mid 30s and up) are like relics?!

Well, after episode 6 when several members of Alpha were shot down (and I presumed killed based on the hits they took), there was no mention of Delta attending their funeral. So perhaps Alpha was snubbing Delta in return by not attending Messer's funeral

Good point

Her and Max both, but honestly, if you think about it, it even makes sense that she would send Messer out knowing his condition...

Johnson: "Lady M, are you sure, you want to assign Messer to Delta platoon? He'll be in high stress situation, and he is a known carrier of VAR."

M: "Of course I am, Mirage is in serious need of training, she has the basics of piloting down, but none of the instincts, Messer is ideal for training people."

Johnson: "How do we teach her instinct?'

M: "Simple, just tell Messer to be his cold hearted self, beat her up continuously on training mission, and keep criticizing her at every point."

Johnson: "but what if she doesn't improve, this isn't exactly the normal way, we might even break her."

M: "Ernie, you're a Zentradi, right? That method is the normal way for Zentradi, and we had it much tougher, we just got thrown out battle, and if we got killed, well, back then, the battle field is the only training ground we had. And a little constructive criticism better not break her, she has my genes, I damn well didn't break the first time Max shot me down, and he was using live ammo. With Messer, all she'll get is harsh language and a bunch of paint pellets."

M: "As for Messer, just keep an eye on him, and send me the data on his condition as needed. We can always pull him if we have to, I can send one of my other son in laws out there to replace him.... hmmm, where is that Gamlin."

Sounds plausible actually.

On a separate note, it has been noted by many that there has been a lack of non-plane mode combat. Flying is Messer's and Aerial knights' (specifically Keith's) forte. This we know. But how would they perform in Battroid mode, even Keith? Til date, the only combat scenes we have seen in battroid mode come from Hayate and Arad (as far as key characters are concerned of course).

Trying to fight the Aerial Knights in the air(especially without Messer) gives Delta / Chaos/ NUNS a distinct disadvantage, they've got to take away that advantage either by, as many have said, the remainder of Delta Squadron better step up their game, or try to force the Knights to fight on the ground or at least out of their preferred mode. Maybe the 2nd tranche of episodes will see CHAOs trying to shift their strategy somewhat

It just occured to me, Acard launched and we have yet to see him really do much in the last dogfight... it was pretty much all Messer until now. I'm going to have to rewatch the episode but, I'm pretty sure everyone took a hit and Messer did all the fighting. Squad Leader should be better than Messer no?

Nope all the time. Max was Hikaru's subordinate, but he was The Ace.

Thanks guys for the podcasts, especially for this episode (10) it was carthartic listening to you guys for this episode.

Really enjoy it when there are more people offering different viewpoints, and makes for more humorous banter.

This should probably be part of episode 8, but I was just thinking:

The planet Voldor, and perhaps their liberators (I'm assuming they were liberated) NUNS should have a captured, albeit damaged/ legless Drakken, courtesy of Bogue.

Bogue didn't seem to have destroyed the aircraft after walking out from it. If this is true, we'll have the in-world assessment of the capabilities of the Drakken soon.

Agree: Ant-man is really fun to watch

Non tv-accurate arm armor

"Sorry, girls, one of the costume containers got hit. This is all we could salvage."

LOL~! looks about right

But I actually like Walkure Attack better than Ikenai borderline. The song, with that drumline seems a much better fit for space battles. Also, IMO it does a much better job of balancing each of the girls voices (whereas Ikenai Borderline seems to be mostly Junna).

Maybe it'll grow on me after I listen to it a few more times, but right now it isn't doing very much for me. It took me a while before Ikenai borderline grew on me.

In contrast, most of Kanno's songs(musical tunes at the very least)for frontier were "insta-buys"

The new song, Walkure Attack is really growing on me. One of their best, if not their best one, IMO.

If this one is the better ones they've got, then I would have to say that that Delta's music is seriously lack lustre. Except for Ikenai borderline, non of the songs's tunes have made it enough an impression that I am able to recall the tune.

Kanno is seriously missed here.