Macross007

Nope, the article is incorrect at best. HG has no copyright on Macross. Copyrights cannot be licensed under Japanese law. HG cannot have those rights, period. HG can have a license to distribute SDFM and has merchandising rights to SDFM and (supposedly) on DYRL at most. HG copyrighted the name Macross in several countries.

I am not even sure if HG can edit the footage of the Macross saga at will without permission of the copyrightholders. Altough in HG's defence they can always claim that RT is a rather inacruate dub attempt.

But these lunatic Robotech idiots keep lying about it : http://www.robotech.com/community/forum/re...&forumid=31

Eh, that's not really a discussion... the whole thing was started as a pineapple salad joke. Now it's just an excuse for two guys who hate each other to take potshots at each other. The few remaining mods there are too apathetic to do anything.

You want full-on nonsense? There's a thread in their tech debates section where a bunch of frothy-mouthed nutjobs are trying to prove that the AFC-01 Legioss/VFA-6 Alpha is superior to the VF-1 in every way, mainly by making up "facts" as they go.

I still maintain that the long wait between the "original" series and the Shadow Chronicles movie unhinged most of the Robotech fanbase.

Yeah, I have read that thread too. I don't want to go into details, but I am amazed of how some of these Robotech idiots are saying the VF-1 runs on protoculture when Tommy Yune said HIMSELF that thing runs on fusion power. Also, these same cretins refuse to acknowledge the OSM (Original Source Materials) when Carl Macek HIMSELF used them to "create" his crappy ripoff. Can't believe you have the patience to deal with them. Can't believe you are still on the Robotech forums too.

and a secondary character that crashes directly into a protodevlin, does not eject, the entire VF-17 blown apart right from the cockpit, manages to somehow fall to the ground unharmed, survive freezing temperatures and walk who know show many km to exactly the protodevlin hideout and save the day

GAMLIN KICK!!!!!!!!!!!

Gamlin is THE MAN I tell you.

and a secondary character that crashes directly into a protodevlin, does not eject, the entire VF-17 blown apart right from the cockpit, manages to somehow fall to the ground unharmed, survive freezing temperatures and walk who know show many km to exactly the protodevlin hideout and save the day

GAMLIN KICK!!!!!!!!!!!

Gamlin is THE MAN I tell you.

And that's nothing compared to the "Where's the SDF-2?" thread...

But let's face it: we are die-hard (Macross) fans who can't stop talking about it (Robotech), right?

Yeah, but at least we are not talking about nonsense. 10 pages of "Who really killed Roy Fokker?". Some of these Robotech fans are mentally unstable I tell you.

Was it ever bad like this here?

http://www.robotech.com/community/forum/re...&forumid=11

Reading that thread made my month. 10 pages of that nonsense and keep talking about it.

Ex-UN pilot who adopted a small child and left his girlfriend to raise her; has a male starship pilot madly in love with him and what seems a very strong friendship bond with Canaria and Captain Wilder; has a love for old rally Italian cars and most of all is a fan of Fire Bomber. Seems an interesting background to me. Too bad they decided to let us only have a glimpse at the surface of things.

Too bad the only that came out from his mouth is "LOOK EVERYBODY HOW MAN I AM !!!".

For me, have not watched Macross II yet. Maybe in the future but not in a near future.

I'm in the clear... I've seen it all (yes, even all of Macross 7).

Well, glad you are still on your feet.

A 2 hour Frontier would have been fine by me in the first place, instead of a 25 episode T&A revival extravagance! Only this time they should focus on the real interesting characters: Ozma, Cathy, Leon, Bobby, Canaria and Macross Galaxy's villains. Who cares about a triangle (especially if it includes Ranka)?

Since when Ozma is an interesting character ?

We do know the existence of special forces (shown in Macross 7 with the Diamond and Emerald Forces), but my question is can each fleet decide to have them onboard or not ? Macross Frontier did not acknowledge any kind of special forces. And no, I don't consider SMS personals as special forces since they are private military contractors although they did some special force operations (shown in episode 7).

Basquash ep 7

VF-1 along with Ecaflowne among Dan's junk.

Great, that series is never going to have an official worldwide release.

Other than the Dominion on DS9 every time star trek played around with long range transporters their was a inharent danger in their use.

Spock might have been desperate, and chose to use a unstable technology to get Kirk to the Enterprise.

Explaining why Scotty was not safely transported onboard the Enterprise. Yeah, make sense.

Can't argue with that, the Japanese know how to package their DVD's!

That's certainly why the japanese releases cost a lot of money then.

And I loved the new engineering section. I find it much believable than the usual giant glowing dildo.

+ 100.

hahaha, awesome! I really liked that episode, now I like it more.

Me too.

I don't think that is an adequate analogy to explain what is going on there. With the exception of the fact that they travel on water, a wood vessel and a modern ship areThe yield was that amount in ToS era and was still amount in TnG. Ships have only become more powerful in the century spread by just adding more guns and launchers.

Sure about that sir ?

Sorta. That was the gist of it from a novel, but the novel isn't considered canon.

I'm reading the same stuff, from a magazine article and the movie's website, and even the Memory Alpha wiki is listing it as 757 meters. I don't see where they came up with that number... not only did the ship not look that big compared to the window on the bridge, but it didn't seem that big in the shipyard on Earth. Personally, I'm going to assume it's no larger than the Enterprise-A, until I hear differently from whoever's actually in charge of the franchise these days.

Memory Alpha took that number from the "Enterprise Tour" : http://www.experience-the-enterprise.com/ww/

"Class: Constitution class ship. Type: Heavy Cruiser. Registry: NCC-1701. Designer: W. Matt Jeffries [sic]. Construction Site: Starfleet Division, San Francisco Fleet Yards. Overall Mass: 495,000 metric tonnes. Length: 2500 feet. Saucer Diameter: 1100 feet. Ship Height: 625 feet"

The 3000 feet number comes from the CGI artists : "The overall length roughly agrees with the 3000 feet stated in the Post Magazine article 'Star Trek' Returns : http://www.postmagazine.com/ME2/dirmod.asp...2FB2117F7DD841F . We also learn during the tour that the bridge is located on A Deck and the sickbay on G Deck. The stated crew size is 1100."

Crew : 1100 !!! The Big E in the prime timeline had a crew complement of 430. The Big E is bigger than ever. But that does not make any sense at all given the size of windows and the bridge.

That's because of the heavy Star Wars flavor!

May the Dark Side of the Force be with Star trek then.

I have read that the updated Big E is now 2500-3000 feet long (762-914.4meters long). Is that even possible given the scale of the windows and the bridge ? Even the 24th century Federation ships like Enterprise-D (642 meters long) and the Enterprise-E (685 meters long) are not that big.

P.S. : The original Big E is 289 meters long and the refit version of it is 305 meters long in the prime timeline.

I'm starting to think Star Trek has finally surpassed Star Wars.

Me I'm starting to think Star Trek has finally surpassed years of mediocrity (Nemesis, Voyager and the crap Enterprise).

One thing that always bothered me about Star Trek was how clean everything was (this goes for the Star Wars prequels, as well). I didn't get that feeling at all in this movie.

Glad to see some people loving the new engineering section like me.

Just saw the movie this afternoon with friends and two words come to my mind : F*CKING AMAZING !!! Love the updated exterior and interior U.S.S. Enterprise designs. Love the "iBridge" and yes I like the new engineering section even if it looks like an oil refinery. Don't care because it shows why the Enterprise is called the "Big E". Love the updated uniforms. Love how they keep the original sound effects like the transporter and bridge sound effects. Love how the geek discussions were actually funny unlike in other Trek incarnations (Star Trek : Voyager anyone ?) Love how each character had their moments (Checkov moments were priceless !!! ). Love how the bridge interact during the whole movie (Scotty FTW !!! ).

However, I must say that I did not like two things about the movie the first being how "Cadet" Kirk became "Captain" Kirk in one day. Earning the privilege to command the most advanced Starfleet ship is an honor you would think that will require YEARS OF EXCELLENT WORK. But somehow, Kirk did it in a matter of hours. And I did not like the fact that they NEVER mention the Vulcans having fleets to defend their own homeworld. I know Vulcans are pacific people but this is a diffence between being pacific and being an actual dumbass. If you don't want to defend yourself, then you deserve what you get. The Vulcans learned the lesson the hard way I guess.

Sure the plot was simple, but the movie as a whole was well executed. "Well executed" is what was missing in later Trek incarnations like Enterprise and Nemesis. Don't care if the hardcore fans are saying that the movie does not fit in the timeline. Star Trek was a dead franchise and this movie is bringing back Star Trek from the death. The reboot did it job well. In the future, I hope seeing Star Trek going the Gundam way : all the other movies and TV shows are considered as parts of the original universe and this new movie starts another universe. Like that, die hard fans are are happy. I hope so at least ...

But anyway, thank you very much J.J. Abrams for this wonderful movie. STAR TREK IS BACK IN THE GAME MOTHERF*CKERS !!!

Oh and I give this movie a well deserved 9/10.

Nope, not part of the alternate continuity... just one of the double handful of DYRL-based non-canon side stories.

What a waste of beautiful mecha designs if you ask me.

On other news, our "dear friend" Robotechfanplus has been banned from Robotech.com. "ROBOTECH.COM BETRAYED ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" as he said. He is a Gundam fan now.