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Macross isn't moving toward looking like Gundam. You notice that valkyries are still first and foremost airplanes that turn into robots, thus the plane part is the most important. Gundam will always be the other way around in that the transforming Gundams will always prioritize the robot mode over its other mode (usually making the jet mode look like crap)

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Personally as someone who has built them all (except the 00 in my closet, which so far from build ups I've seen I am not impressed, although to complete my collection I'll build it) I rate them like this:

Strike

Red Frame

MK.II

GP01

RX-78

00 Raiser

Zaku

Zeta

Wing Zero

If you add the HY2M line, I'd insert the Dom between the Zaku and Zeta, and the Gouf after the Mk.II.

You can buy an IWSP kit from G-system for around 200 bucks.

They also make a 1/60 Kampfer that sells for around 350-360 US.

As for the sword, in the Manga, it's made so Lowe can fight without using the battery power from his unit, since the Red frame's battery also powers it's rifle, beam sabers, and energy ball attack (an attack projected from it's hands). It's made to look like a samurai sword because Lowe already knows he wants to make a non-powered sword, and goes to a junk colony that's deserted and was once inhabited by artisans and tradesmen. He meets the last living resident, and old swordsmith, who teaches him how to fight with a sword, and then helps him make one scaled to the size of a Gundam. Again, a very practical idea. So don't knock it, because if you were an MS pilot, it would probably be reassuring to have a weapon that didn't suck your mobile suits juice out, and would do much more damage in close combat than slugging it out with fists.

You mean this

Cause they are resin kits lots of painting which I dont really want to do but it is very nice

I'll post the "brick mode" later with the review

It's really a great toy, the wow factor when I took it out of the styrofoam was exactly as when I open my Yamato's. It's one of the very few gundam designs that I like

AWESOME

Cant wait until the 31st

Dam Mine will cost me 160 can. So much goodness for such a price.

I dont care for the wacky rocket/flight/building mode. DOES IT POSE???? What accessories does it come with ??

Thanks

One more thing Can you post a pic next to a PG Gundam?

the legs look they're infected with some sort of flesh eating disease for robots. There is No way on earth you could possibly justify a robot with a massive, ornately decorated samurai sword outside the context of a super robot show or some sort of parody/comedy.

I not particuarly thrilled with the chunky, segmented, complex purely complexity's sake look of the PG strikes arm (I think the design used in the anime is better than the Gundam Evolve version) but they work with the overall angular/boxy design. The Red frame on the other hand is 50% boxy, 50% streamlined, 100% incoherently styled.

The crap mechanical design refers to the fact that it looks like whoever designed the red frame took random part they thought were cool looking from about two dozen other Gundams, smashed them all together, wiped away the blood and called his abortion a finished design. (sorry to tell you this Mr. Akutsu, but cramming as many odd undulations and angles as you can into a design does not make it good)

my point is that the red frame Gundam itself is an ugly abortion of a robot, and it's PG representation ruins the otherwise great Strike kit with it's horrifying fail and ugly.

Just because a model is a perfect, painstakingly detailed representation of a pile of shit doesn't change the fact that it's a pile of shit.

(buy the way, the buster sword on the PG strike is retarded as well, although not quite as bad sinse it's not a giant robot sized samurai sword complete with ornately decorated scabbard. just say no to massively over-sized swords on robots... small knives are fine)

tl;dr: well engineered model of an ugly robot is still ugly.

QFT! The most ancient of all engineering principles, GIGO: Garbage In, Garbage Out

Personally, I love the boxy-utilitarian UC designs the best (my fav are MSV's). The trend SEED onward of, "OMG LOOK AT ME, I G0T 4 M4SS1V3 SW0RD AND I'M ON A B0AT!!! WIIINGS OF LIIIIIIGHT!!!! " I find to be most annoying.

In conclusion, Bandai needs to make kits for the more tactical looking MS, like this:

For some of the design faults I really think the Red Frame is still worth getting. Yeah it has a big sword, But its cool to me anyways. There are so many gundams out there that it satisfies everyone

Wings of Light. As I have explained before Nanomachines ....for Turn A ,, Multiple boosters on the wings for Destiny that give it the wing effect. Hell even the 00 makes that double halo effect. It translates well in the cartoon to a denouement point. Anyhoo... I like the seed frames, Long and slender rather then heavy and cumbersome. Makes sense if you need the armor like the rick dom which is UGLY! but practical Funny how 6 of the 9 PGs are my favorite. But I would rate it differently based on Playability, Posing, Asthetics, Design/Mechanics. Even tho I will have them all I think all of them are great and each carries its character

SO my rating for PGs is as follows Granted I dont have the 00 and GP01 as they are in transit

and I yet to buy the red frame

Strike

Red Frame

Double 0

MK II

Wing

GP01

Zeta

Rx-78

Chars Zaku

We really ought to get some other PGs IE Hi Nugundam, F91, Kampfer,

Noir, Strike E IWSP since it would be using an updated Strike frame, Sword Impluse.

And there are some rather silly gundams out there ie most of the Evil faction machines in Gundam double 0. Heck the only real acceptable ones are Exia, 00 and Dynames/Cherudim

I would appreciate that since im getting one at the end of the month

Bump just a reminder for the review and pics or it didnt happen

Heh, British humor site 'The Daily Mash' had a piece on Avatar that made me laugh out loud.

Read it here: avatar-'greatest-ever-film-with-blue-pretend-cat-people'

Graham

HEEHEE That was funny Pull my foreskin over my head. Even better shi t I read for the Transformers 2 film review

Even better when Captain Gestapo says

"Cameron spent to much time underwater"

"And has taken the Hollywood opiate of Putting Technology before Story"

"He should have left the remake of Ferngully: The last Rainforest to Lucas"

"They said the 3D would be so good it would be like having your eyeballs f uck ed"

"god dam fox studios would give wolverine webshooters and a bat cape"

"fights off space marines with his freaking organic farm"

"All these masters have lost their minds in the depths of a hard drive"

"Sam Worthington....He is a bigger blockhead than mount rushmore"

TEEHEE classic

Received the Psycho Gungam MkII from Hong Kong at last!!!!

This Metal Composite Fix Figuration toy is THE AWESOME. Pure mecha porn, it's bigger and taller than a Yamato 1/48 VF-1. Almost as tall as the PG Strike.

First impressions: hefty toy, diecast where it's needed, the paint application and tampo markings are beyond this planet, stiff joints.

I'll post pics and a better review tonight!!!!!

I would appreciate that since im getting one at the end of the month

Warning from Bandai regarding the optional clear parts set (sold separately):

* In order to build a Perfect Grade 00 Raiser using all of the clear armor parts, an unbuilt 00 Raiser kit is needed. (In other words, you have to add the parts as you build, and cannot add all of them later once the model has been assembled.)

* If you try to remove the armor parts from an already-built PG 00 Raiser, you will find there are some parts that physically cannot be removed, and some other parts are likely to be broken if you try to forcibly remove them. Therefore some parts absolutely cannot be replaced if starting with an already-built model. Your understanding on this point will be appreciated. Also, there is a risk of breaking the clear parts contained in the original PG 00 Raiser kit, and these clear parts are not included in the clear armor parts set.

* Due to the nature of the material used in the clear armor parts set, once a PG 00 Raiser has been assembled using the clear armor parts, there is risk of damage if you attempt to remove the clear armor parts and replace them. The clear armor parts cannot be removed and replaced after they are put onto the model.

FROM HLJ

So an FYI once its on no going back

I could accept it all except the knives and GIANT (as long as plane) beam cannons ........I mean really? Next thing you know Valks will have laser swords and "secret" hidden abilities that only get reveled the pilot is about to be killed .... I like Gundam but if it Macross gets to "Gundamized" I'm out. They don't belong together.

Ugh next thing you know we'll have those crappy Robots/Gundams that change into some bastardized version of a plane/ship. They make the Wright Brothers roll in their graves I'm sure. I know some people like them but they just look like someone took a gundam, squashed it (flat or ball/cube ) and then added kibble on every possible place you can hang it from.

Don't even get me started on how there is now a "sniper" valk...... If you, and/or your target, are going mach chicken 1 bullet 1 kill seems a bit ridiculous.

EDIT: Seems like a cool idea for a destroid but a valk it seems like a waste. Does anyone actually use the the sniper rifle in fighter mode in the series?

too bad

In general I have liked all the designs from macross. Maybe not the skittles color job they are getting as of late but i do like the MF valk designs. I am pretty sick of the VF-1 line. I like a variation of transforming planes. I have been very pleased with the treatment that Bandai has given to macross. Even after transforming my M-0 Vf-0 sigh of relief no breaks it is a beautiful bird but when i handle bandai's valks im not so worried about breaking them. M-0 and MF has given me some great designs from the 20 year old and stale design of the VF-1

As for this Superpack I like it minus the cannons. The cannons make it a little goofy but I can get used to it .

Bandai bring it on. If it means the so called "gundamizing" even better.

I wouldn't hold my breath for that, and I dare say that Bandai would have to pry a FSS license from his cold, dead hands. Nagano made FSS the way it is because of Bandai's interference and meddling in the Zeta Gundam and L-Gaim TV series (in fact, FSS is a kind of re-telling of L-Gaim); they wanted mecha that were toy-friendly and not overly-difficult to animate, and this is to say nothing of Bandai's likely influence on the stories themselves.

On these points, I back Nagano 100% for wanting to keep FSS out of the clutches of the establishment. In fact, Kaiyodo had even (briefly) marketed a series of FSS Mortar Headd toy figures back in the late 90s, but Nagano didn't renew that licence because it seems he felt that the product was not up to the standard for FSS in general. I think that the best thing you can hope to get in terms of "affordable" Mortar Headds are the new plastic offerings by Volks (Bang Doll/Vatshu.)

These latter offerings are certainly a step above previous plastic FSS kits, but still not in the same league as the resin kits.

Its too bad then for both parties. Bandai has the capital and know how to market and create great toys/models. Nagano has the creative talent for design and story. Both could have benefited working together rather than the stronger one trying to over manage the direction of the project

Oh Well. I guess someone else might take on the license. There are a lot of companies. IE Wave, (Model toy rather kit) Yamato, CMs, Toynami??? Hasbro?

I completely disagree with your assessment, as an owner of a Red Frame. What do you mean, what happened to the legs? The legs are fine. The sword, well, rediculous as it may seem, it's the point of the Red Frame, what makes it unique. If you read the manga, you'd understand it serves a very valuable, believable and reasonable purpose other than "penis compensation". The "Lego Arms" are almost identical to the Strike. To badmouth the mechanical design, you're badmouthing the Strike design, which is widely agreed upon to be the best design of the PG line STILL. Granted it loses some articulation due to the armor pieces, but not that much. The only thing flawed on the Red Frame is your assessment of it. It's a damn fine kit.

Which is my reason why im getting this kit next. I would have gotten it sooner but something tells me Bandai will release one with the flight pack than im boned. But from dalong review its articulation loss is pretty minimal. And talk about penis compensation???? What about the buster sword for the PG strike. Isnt that a little grandiose or copy of mechanical Gutsu ???? Whatever. Prices are a little high right now following your theory so i will wait. Also affords me time to see if they release the Flight pack and I have told my local store im getting the GFFMC MRX-010 Psycho at the end of DEC and the Yammy Patlabor at mid Jan

Or, you do what I did when some MGs were $10 on amazon.com. I put out an offer to borrow somebody's address in the US to have the items initially shipped to, and then have them ship it to me. I sweetened the deal by offering to buy for them whatever MGs (that were $10), for them. End result, for $30 US I got a GP-01, GP-01fb, and Kampher. He got a GP-02 and a GM (I think). The extra $20 covered shipping quite nicely.

Edit: There's one other option at the moment, and that's HLJ. Wait for them to have another sale that gets you free express shipping, get the cheapest thing on the list, and get everything else you want. Yes, you risk customs, but that's life. You do, however, save big bucks as you're not paying shipping.

thats great.

sniff

My 00 is stuck in customs still .... go figure

ho hum who knows maybe they are building it and will submit it as a super weapon

to the government

Probably will experience the same thing for my PG GP01

I think no Mech collector will deny how beautiful these mech designs are. But the models really turn me off to owning something tangible. I am surprised I Bandai has not pulled this into their MG line or seen any SOC like representation of these

I still hope tho

I would sell my liver for a PG LED

the astray armor limits the movement compared to the strike

and amazon has the pg GP01/Fb for 230 bucks and the shipping quote I got was 11 bucks.

Thats a great price however last I checked Amazon doesnt ship to canada??

buy the GP01, it's god-tier levels of awesome. red frame sucks.

also, from the DX quarter thread

here you go

ok jokes aside. Are you speaking about the general design of the Gundam or The way the PG was designed. Outside the personal distastes for swords and what not is there anything with the design of the PG that is bad?

And woohoo I won the PG GP01

172US Shipping is 88US

is that good ??

come on MAN

OH THATS IT !!!!!!!

Not true. Bandai spends a lot of money developing these kits, and there are always production runs. They just do it in cycles. 2 years ago, Wing zero was past 200 a pop, now it can be had for about 130. Why? Because Wing Zero was just run before the Red Frame was released (they ran some Extra coating and reg. versions) all you have to do to spot the cycles is watch ebay's HK sellers. When you see a ton of one kit, more than the others, then you know that kit has been reproduced. If you notice, Mk.II's and Gp01's are starting to get thin. That's because those have been out of cycle the longest, meaning they'll be the first ones back in after the Raiser/Red Frame hype has died down. I don't really know how to explain it, but I have it down to a science watching for these, and it's served me well from not overpaying for a kit for 4 years. Strike is getting thin as well, I noticed the average price has jumped from 130ish to 160-170ish USD. Don't feel like you need to buy one because it's older, it will return eventually. Bandai's good like that.

wow man thanks a lot. Thats why i visit the site

Both are great kits. If you're into looks, the Gp01 is a great display piece with awesome features. The stand really makes the kit, and pics don't do the size of it justice. Articulation is great, well balanced considering the design.

The Red frame is a retool of the Strike PG, the be all end all of Gundam PG kits in terms of looks and articulation. Looks incredible, kick ass sword (swords if you find the initial production version). Not as nice as the Strike though. Compatible with the Aile Strike stand too, which makes for sick mid air posing. If you're relatively new to PG building, this one is better.

Both are great. Go with your gut and pick one, then tell yourself you'll eventually get both.

ok im going to try to get the gp01 and bid on it. If I dont win i will get the PG Red Frame. Those are the only 2 missing from my PG collection. I figure this may be the last chance i see a PG GP01 anywhere

thanks

Perfect Grade Gundam RX-78 GP01/Fb 1/60 PG or

Perfect Grade Gundam red Frame 1/60

Which one is better?

Took my PG Strike out from storage a few days ago. Man are those legs a work of engineering art!! I had forgotten how many parts and armor pieces move and shift when posing them. Truly

My 00 should arrive next week if customs doesn't shoot it down. At least I got a nice discount and free shipping from HLJ, so if I end up paying import taxes I won't feel so bad.

what how

i had mine on pre order before i canceled because with shipping it came to 400 bucks i dont know how you got hlj to ship for free and discount it

that why i went on ebay to get mine

Ever since my 80 G tank cracked and sprung a leak I had this brand new all-class for only less than a year but the mortality rate of fish in my tank is around 80%. I dont understand why. Im not a novice. I have been keeping fish for more than 15 years and its, for lack of more frustrating word to use, farting pissing me off.

After my 6 year old silver arowana kicked the bucket i just cant figure out the reason. Dam near considering sending the fish to the CDC. After every fish in my new 75 G tank died i switched to an African cichlid tank. My blue Johanni in less than 12 hours has died. Before that my male yellow lab 3 inchs very healthy started disintegrating before my eyes. Bloody ulcers started appearing seeing the poor thing was breaking my heart. I was about to net him and do to the quick finger flick to protect the other fish and but the house in me decided to make a last ditch effort to save him. I took a brand new paintbrush and started literally basting him in metaflex. Isolated him. Added salt. Monitored him for 12 hours and the other fish. Did the water change. Started to over oxygenate the tank. Well the lab bounced back. He is lively and getting back to his old aggressive self. I still have him isolated. Later today I noticed the Blue Johanni breathing heavy. NO SIGN of diease NONE perfectly healthy but the signs show that something was wrong. I have him isolated preformed the same procedure nope. DEAD. WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK. I have tested the PH its fine. I have a dam UV filter!!!! 2 canister filters and a penquin with an undergravel feed by a powerhead 802......

Like what the fartkkkkk~! Fin Rot doesnt kill that fast, he had no signs of it. There are no signs of damage due to fighting. I have never seen a bacterial infection EVEN internal kill so fast. No overcrowding in the tank and no overfeeding so the fart

Any here have an aquarium???? Could it be the new All Class tank????Please help

holly pedophiles man isnt ranka like 13???????? TO me thats just tooooo far in the nono department where my wife would start questioning my intensions!

Anyhoo I like the sheryl figures. Im not much into anything outside of robots but i did pickup a GL Yoko figure by Revoltech. I would not mind a songstress but im only willing to spend as much as the revoltech was. Are any of these in the revoltech price range? Or is revoltech making any?

I was thinking more along the lines of Alicia Witt myself...

I think red dye

and megan fox

she is hot

and can act

oh wait

Built or unbuilt

PM me

I think the difference between the CG model and the DX is Bandai trying to reproduce the "actual" colors (since no physical filming model exists) over the low lighting model seen in the TV show. They did the same thing with their Enterprise model, based on data provided to them directly from Paramount. I'm pretty sure Bandai got the exact coloring data from Satelight as well.

Actual colors

Low lighting

Whichever one you prefer is a matter of personal preference of course. Just throwing that out there as to possibly why the DX colors differ from the anime.

Or it could just be that Bandai wanted to make the colors stand out more to make it more noticeable as a toy? Because, you know, it is a toy...

Besides, the coloring of the Quarter is way less problematic than the craptacular design, engineering, and QC that went into the VF-25 DX line.

At least its mostly white, and baby blue and its acceptable but squittles quarter has white, dark gray,light gray, disco green, and baby blue, hardly a military choice in painting a warship BUUUT then again you do have a cross dresser piloting the quarter sooooo maybe a bunch of cross dressing painters ????? Whatever im glad people who accept it will purchase it because it means that Bandai may release it in other colors

And I keep hearing about red frame turd. Could you please expand on the turdiness of the red turd and maaaaaaaybe i may reconsider. Just post in the gunpla forum

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