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Aries Turner

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  1. This one or the previous, rounder, simpler one? Thanks for the heads up, however. Supposedly by the manned fighter pilot, somewhat like depicted in Delta.
  2. Besides, even SDF has been stated as a docudrama. It is like watching Vikings: it most certainly DIDN'T happen as depicted. But you get the general idea. Macross 7: Encore and Macross 7: The Movie supposedly fit somewhere between Macross7 episodes 38-42. Also, Macross 7 use retro mobile phones, and Macross F go full retro. Although there are real world considerations for this, I fancy the in universe reason as culture preservation. Think about it this way: if an all out war destroys everything, how desperately would you cling even to banal things that you may have even despised before, like Vegas Vic. Most if not all higher forms of art are lost forever. What remains is 3D reproductions of 2D footage or vaguely remembered objects. With the odd artifact that survived the onslaught.
  3. AFAIK, Battroid mode doesn't entirely match what you would do, but rather what you intend to do. You can force yourself to a certain gait while walking, but most of the time you are not minding what foot you are advancing, left or right, you only have the destination in mind. Battroid is supposed to work that way all the time, with rare events where precise motion is required, and even that is sometimes made with inhuman extensions, like VF-1 "magic hand", a set of two to four precision tools in each forearm. Moreover, only two Valkyries where ever depicted aiming a rifle the way a human would do: the VF-25G and a VF-171 in a flashback scene. All others are using FCS where the aim-point is calculated using a sensor embedded in every gunpod.
  4. OTEC is next. Kratos Valkyrie, unveiled. "The US Air Force’s latest unmanned aircraft system (UAS), XQ-58A Valkyrie demonstrator completed its inaugural flight March 5, 2019, at Yuma Proving Grounds, Arizona. The Valkyrie is a long-range, high subsonic unmanned air vehicle designed to operate autonomously or in cooperation with manned aircraft as part of the Air Forces’ ‘Loyal Wingman’ concept. The Air Force Research Laboratory partnered with Kratos Unmanned Aerial Systems to develop the XQ-58A. According to the designer, the 30 ft (9 meters) long Valkyrie has a range of more than 3,000 nautical miles (5,556 km)"
  5. Macross Plus also used those for self-defense. SDF used those as forward firing lasers and to cut an opening through a steel door.
  6. Although inhuman movement are rarely depicted, please consider Alto in EXGear protecting himself and Sheryl against the Vajra in Frontier Ep.1. The EXGear correctly interprets Alto arms gesture as a defensive position AND THEN EXGear put those wings in front on him as an additional shielding. Also consider YF-19, YF-21, VF-19, VF-22 and VF-25 hip mounted cannons. It could be argued that if your intention is to walk while firing, ARIEL would accommodate for a forward motion while swaying hips enough to point at and destroy targets. And take into mind that VF-1 try to translate human commands into expected Zentraedi sized kind of available motions: it was the whole point of Battroid configuration.
  7. As always, I love the plethora of data. I was reminded that while the VF-17 was vastly superior to the VF-11 and marginally better than VF-14s, the watered down VF-171 (not the -EX) didn't improve much on agility and acceleration over the VF-11, using extra power for extra fixed armament and pinpoint barrier. The ones updated with EX-Gear but without the engine upgrade should be extra-comfy to fly, with almost no felt acceleration. It was an interesting priority of design, maybe for pilots that would be otherwise be piloting cargo planes for lack of G tolerance?
  8. Agreed, but that also goes for drone. I am also old enough to remember when the thing was still up to debate. But I'll argue that 'drone' and 'Unmanned', while accepted, are not accepted willingly, but for unavoidable fact of everyone there using both terms, even soldiers born after that document. The sources I cited pretty clearly didn't concede an Oscar for Wholeheartedly accepted One True Term. Much on the contrary, explained the caveats of every one, so your assumption is woefully wrong. I can concede 'drone' and 'unmanned' are widespread, but you can't say Uninhabited is wrong, because clearly isn't. Ditto for cloud computing. And yeah, 'I am from the past'. True, but for now those also largely align with RQ- and MQ- designation, and some sources appear to actively avoid U(C)AV categorization by adhering to tri-service designations. Or making up even more obscure acronyms. Huge one. While I enjoy the actual landscape about unmanned mobility, and greatly enjoy your contributions to Mr. Sketchley site, I think we lost focus greatly. Some form of AI is present in those SDF vending machines and DYRL Roomba on OTEC steroids. Probably distributed even, as it drives costs down. But such a system should degrade gracefully in case comms are down, as r/l mobile phones do. With OTEC boosting in both capability levels. QF-4000 may in fact function that way, without fully onboard AIs. Like Tachikoma's AI controlling robospider mechanical bodies from a satellite, John, Peter and Simon may have been stored and executed within Luca's RVF-25, from Quarter or from SMS quarters at Macross Frontier. But that would run counter to Luca's despair when losing one, so one can safely deduce QF-4000 AIs are entirely contained in the airframe. One can't deduce the same for QF-3000, QF-2200 or Macross Plus drones. Or Petit Cola. Nor for r/l F-35 sensor fusion, done in LockMart headquarters.
  9. Because the USAF says so. Maybe not all people in the USAF, but hey: https://wiki.nps.edu/display/CRUSER/2013/03/27/The+'D'+Word%3A+What+To+Call+a+UAV https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a425476.pdf#[{"num"%3A27%2C"gen"%3A0}%2C{"name"%3A"XYZ"}%2C0%2C647%2Cnull] In fact, some prefer RPV, Remotely Piloted Vehicles. Then I didn't explain myself adequately: MY vehicle told me the maximum allowed speed was reduced to half. Because the vehicle reed the signal of the exit lane, while I was still inside the highway. That was one of many incidents experienced by me, so I am pretty sure I am not conflating anything, much less about issues totally unrelated with what I experienced.
  10. Nor did I say so: Uninhabited Aerial Vehicles is still UAV. 'Unmanned' is despised. 'UAV' was just revised. Had one? You'll notice those track variation in speed limits accurately for a while... and then go way below the minimum acceptable speed for the speedway because it reed the outgoing lane signal when it shouldn't. Just imagine the effect if an AI had acted according to that.
  11. You can't program a person for choreographed precise performance, and that mic did not deviate from Mylene mouth even a micra. If the animators cared that much for such a complex scene, there must be a reason. Delta didn't use conventional microphones: Frontier did. And they refurbished or replicated an SH-60 Seahawk for no practical reason, as it was there even before filming Legend of Zero. I don't fail to see your point: you fail to address that, while the above is an useful trick, it is not mandatory, and lots of cheap drones do not use any kind of cloud based extra processing power nor storage, but inbuilt eMMC solid storage and mere KiB of RAM. Still, I can't understand why this an objection: so that AI you suggest isn't entirely located in any physical location, but is partly remote. So what? That makes QFs even cheaper, and still able to resort to dumbed down, no comms available mode. Like bazillion Petit Cola machines in hot pursuit of a poor fella down the road, all controlled from Petit Cola Co or a subsidiary Master Control Progral centralized AI. Suddenly comms are heavily jammed for Beauty of Jamming reasons, and all the machines enter recovery mode, without all the fancy "your emotional state suggest Petit Berry", and backtrack to the Central for further instructions, at safe speed. Wrong: the military despises the term as much as the IT crowd despise "cloud", because Uninhabited Aerial Vehicles are manned at all times from somewhere. BTW, while LIDAR active sensors may be useful for civilian vehicles (or detecting submerged mines from a chopper), it doesn't solve the other part of the equation for safe navigation: reading RELEVANT traffic signals. That is where the AI fails. A robot vending machine can enter an unobstructed area faultlessly to then detect with accurate LIDAR precision unavoidable road traffic, because it failed to interpret a crosswalk variant and a fancy LED animated DO NOT CROSS street light.
  12. You can't program for spontaneous head movement. But anyway: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/artificial intelligence Definition of artificial intelligence 1 : a branch of computer science dealing with the simulation of intelligent behavior in computers 2 : the capability of a machine to imitate intelligent human behavior. I rest my cas... NO, WAIT! It is funny you thought about that, because that actually happens in the aforementioned sequence at Basara's home: Basara waves his hand and the flying mic disengages. NOW I rest my case. I don't see the point for a Telecom Engineer beating the bush with things even he knows wrong. More cores or more storage don't enhance precision, but speed of processing and amount of data, respectively. In layman terms: either Siri have the map to point you to the nearest restaurant or she doesn't even understand the language you are talking to her, either the drone have the map of the area it is navigating or it crashes into Mt. Erebus. The HARDWARE SENSORS do exists. The SOFTWARE making sense of the input, the AI, doesn't. Most successful autonomous vehicles navigate in uncontested airspace, ascending to operational altitude circling the controlled airspace of a military base. So in fact SOFTWARE AI exist, within that strict limits of operation. BUT it doesn't exist in a level to operate within civilian crowded airspace, besides Greenland and the Arctic. Much less withing populous cities.
  13. Yeah, it did. And for the shake of argument lets assume that assumption is correct, even if not (see later). Such precise and immediate movement when Mylene is turning her head, the mic never stopping being right in front of her mouth, describing an arc, can't be executed with manual controls. As an operator, you'll need a BDI/ BDS/ Brain Direct Interface System for such immediate, precise, no delays nor glitches kind of movement. But BDI is itself a form of advanced AI that transform intent into motion. It would require tremendous amount of power, but a sound studio, even if CIVILIAN could pull the feat. But that also would mean AIs are everywhere, defeating your counterargument. But there is more: THE MICS ARE PRESENT IN A PRACTICE SESSION IN BASARA's HOME. I don't envy that sound engineer, ready 24/7 at the expense of Basara's whims. May even purchase full AI support for the band with the savings of a lifetime just to be able to sleep again. Converting speech to text and divining your intent can be done with your phone in aircraft mode. If you are searching for the nearest restaurant and you have the ~100MB map of your area, both Siri and Google Now will point that to you, without the otherwise obligated internet search. There are very good reasons for external processing, but SoCs are, right now, way more capable that you seem aware of for a Telecom Engineer. But don't believe me: just put your phone in aircraft mode and give it a try. Prove it. Not even Amazon's promised Quadcopters with the things you bought. A vending machine would step into feets, fall over broken asphalt, be stopped by unmapped railguards, run into unsafe areas and endanger road lanes,..
  14. ...litter-picking robots way more clever than a Roomba. That is like saying something is nowhere to be found except everywhere, including levitating mics that position themselves in front of a singer just when needed and then fly away without hitting anything when unneded. Ah, I see the reason for the misconception: the reason those applications work "in the cloud" is because Google business model is all about the cloud. You can install LibreOffice or even full Linux distros on Android phones, those are executed locally in a mobile. This I know from firsthand professional experience, making Citrix terminals of those. And before you point out Citrix is all about remote execution, remember all is done on a local web browser, and a friggin web browser is no laughing matter, nor is H.265 decompression WITHOUT hardware decoders. So your civilian litter-picking robot or Petite Cola vending machine does better than a self-driven car reading the wrong speed limits while on a highway? That is OTEC for you. Still annoying people in 2045, even more than Basara-san.
  15. Then we agree the best course of action is just locate your big mothership, a shiny dot moving against the background from which control transmissions were sent just a moment ago, manage to vector an intercept course, not caring in any way about enemy vessels or meteoroids against which you can't even maneuver at this point and hope for the best, as I said already. The key here is what do we call an AI, giving the above limitations that force even simpler behavior than a trash disposal robot. I started with a reference which Mr. Sketchley generously provided, so I'll drop another: http://macross2.net/m3/sdfmacross/robots-2012.htm Putting an AI into every piece of trivial technology is arguably what Macross is all about. Dirt cheap is still trivial cost: you can't afford not embedding those. Not doing so could make you lose valuable equipment. No, really, there is a lower limit on chip size where if the logic you really require sits in a corner, leaving the rest unpopulated have the same cost than populating it with gadgetry you may o may not use in future requirements. That is why you have a phone: entire systems on chip. OTEC make for lower limits but also lower sizes, so you'll end with the same issue, putting entire IA level circuitry in a wheel microcontroller. Either you limit the software to do just that, or you upload upgraded firmware over time to do what we see on screen. The chip inside this, without OTEC, sits on a dollar cent. It could do better with liquid hydrogen refrigeration inside a fuel tank than with aluminium disipators and rotating coolers. https://coral.withgoogle.com/
  16. Now I see the missunderstanding: bingo fuel if when you have the fuel to barely reach a secondary landing zone, the indication you need to tail and go home or risk swimming. A drone on bingo fuel can maneuver. Just not for very long and you have to be extremely fuel conscious. ...and then... ...and yet then... In the end, any command needs some kind of logic in the receiving end. To take commands from a grunty AI you still need at least an stupid AI. And those are dirt cheap to not include it even in the most menial equipment, even lowly automatic dispenser machines with harassing functionality.
  17. You do realize we are talking about not-autonomous drones on bingo fuel or crippled? Legging was never an option for those: those are lost if that is the situation. If a crippled drone is drawing fire, it is working successfully as a decoy, drawing fire away from fully operational assets. The same can be said if a crippled drone is drawing the least bit of focusing of a human controller, whether micro or macro RTS management: a lil' victory for the enemy in this case. ,,,and then... "Automatic" implies a certain amount of electronics. Even if just four Raspberry Zero W with included antenna in a quadruplex redundancy configuration. Want something less complex? You'll be hard pressed, but you can still go for four ESP8266. And yes, those can control a drone. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESP8266
  18. But Cassini did: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassini–Huygens Controlling an still ongoing battle with still operational assets takes priority over recovery operations. Also, if the drone can do it on its own, a human observer/ controller would do best anywhere else. But flying directly towards a big vessel the enemy already is aware off, at low. almost dead speed, in the middle of ongoing chaos is still stealthy enough. Debris are debris, and enemy mecha will cerntainly be more occupied with your still operational assets. If not, they can pursue your ailing drones to dispatch those, but at that point, without operational assets, you may be already screwed. Without detailed QF subsystems as we have for almost any VF, that would be true. But if your octa-core mobile have that little extra low power NINTH core officially managing the 4/5G radio and unofficially peeking here and there, a QF could do with a 'backseat' core or cores that determines if the drone is fully operational or mostly inoperative, and then take charge, check remaining sensor systems, check still operational thrusters and measuring with internal MEMS accelerometer and quantum gyroscopes for deviations in expected acceleration, check if thruster are thus fully or partly operational, adjust for partly operational thruster giving acceleration in wrong vectors and create a new navigation model accounting for what is available to make the best use of what remains. All that a Raspberry Pi could do with meager power. For all we know, even discarded super parts could have been doing that for the entire saga, because even without cameras, strategically placed pasive antennas could triangulate the vector towards a still transmitting friendly. Maybe even the vessel you were reporting to that is still trying to regain control, not knowing yet you may have been utterly disabled.
  19. I do realize we're talking about Macross drones in space, where Pioneers and Voyagers sailed with way less technology. Where you can pinpoint an VF with utmost accuracy at extreme long ranges but you can settle for an Island-class or even the nearest planet if forced to use way less angular resolution. And as you said, QFs aren't meant to operate that far from fleets. Micrometeor impacts, I concede is a major issue in the Macross universe compared with the real universe. Still, a battered QF could or could not endure yet another impact, but limping slowly, enemy mecha rather than micrometeors are the biggest concern. If the QF can't avoid that, the QF can't avoid that: no sense worrying about even more improbable 'IFs'. High-energy capacitor? No, low should suffice for mostly intertial navigation at low thruster acceleration, and if those don't, I'll hang the engineer, because it is doable, have little cost, add little weight as it uses systems already present in a not that unconventional way, and could have saved billions of (yen like) credits.
  20. Turning off TARGET recognition. Object recognition can be done at way shorter ranges at lower resolution, processing power and memory requirements. (about turning off the reaction engine). Notice I said "Maybe" and "if thrusthers are enough to limp back home". I should have specified "if thrusters AND battery/ condenser power", because of course electronics require power. There are certain situations where it may be unwise to turn on a reaction engine, battle damage being one of those, and here I am implying be may be already operating with backup measures without engine power. You can't count on major system for a backup fail-safe capability. So yeah, in that situation, even turning off high bandwidth radios do count, and it may be unwise to do otherwise, as a drone on the brink of being totally inoperative and unable to follow even basic commands for lack of fuel/ power/ structural integrity can't be expected to provide remote surveillance capability. --
  21. - Most of the CPUs, particularly the more powerful ones on a Hi-Lo configuration, and corresponding memory banks for ECCM and target recognition. - Radar if El-Op is enough, as radar is a really power hungry component. - Power hungry high bandwidth data-link radios, switching to low power, low bandwidth radio beacons. - Maybe even the reaction engine if thrusters are enough to limp back home.
  22. Lilldraken are described as such, but I agree about the reaction engine and the sophisticated electronics. Maybe what was meant was not disposable, but attritable. And such AIs should be very capable to work on emergency low power by shutting down unnecessary systems and even re-calibrate for damaged thrusters to still achieve limp-home capability, even with major damage. [Edit] Wait! My mistake: I agree about the reaction engine and the sophisticated AI ALGORYTHMS, but not about the electronics, which should be a pretty boring SoC array.
  23. In VF-1 Space Wings there is an unofficial account of an unmanned VF-1 using low power acceleration for a long time to maximize endurance going to Saturn and back to the Moon. That makes me wonder if QFs are really disposable or if they shut almost completely when hiting Bingo Fuel and then coast to a predefined recovery orbit, like an interplanetary ionic engine probe of shorts.
  24. Four weeks in an atmosphere, using less than a ml/s of fuel in that thermonuclear reactor inside VF engines to overheat air as propellant as in normal turbofans (on steroids). In space all the propellant is quickly wasted as heated plasma in lieu of air in mere 10 minutes at maximum thrust. That is the very reason for developing the super pack for the Super VF-1s to at least reach 50 minutes mission time. By the time of Delta, VF-25s and VF-31s had enough internal fuel for about ~30 minutes of space operations. Still, Hayate managed to empty his tanks while in a space operation. VFs use nuclear fusion. Nuclear fission was tried in real aircraft, flying nuclear disasters waiting to happen. See the note at the end about fusion. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear-powered_aircraft
  25. Viewing Macross 7 again, elevators work non-stop for a single catapult to launch fighters every second or so. Macross 7 Ep.7 even makes the VF-11 shine, with grunts taking some Elgerzorene's once the enemy capabilities are known and effective counter-tactics are put into effect. Gamlin even engages Gigil in one, solo. But I digress. Why? Even if catapults are used, standard practice is going full military power at takeoff anyway. The dangers should be about the same. Best not to be downwind.
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