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I read review, reviewer say Delta Movie 2 are as good as Frontier Movie 2 whom consider as one of best Macross movie.

The way you write as if you salty that you always villfied Lady M and now you found out their true identity.

No wonder Max helping Xaos ASAP the moment he found out Heimdall plan to destroy Lady M

Well Delta Movie 2 has just answered decade long question that Macross fan has been asking

Well if spoiler are true, then congratualtion Seto, you insulted and demonise Lady M aka

When I read, is that true Battle 7 appear in movie 2

Who are Heimdall organisation and why they want to kill Megaroad 1 and Lady M?

And who Lady M?

Could you translate as not all of us can read japanease

Maybe that why Max help Xaos as most likely he manage to track down Remnant of Galaxy conspirator and possibly send by Lady M.

I think Lady M is Milia. Send her husband to do dirty job

So far is there any summary about movie yet?

Like I say Remnant as they only have modified Battle Galaxy ship and has no escorts ship with it

Most likely those are remnant of Galaxy conspirator whose now become Criminal fugitive.

Also not sure true or not but is Eplison  sub division  of Macross Galaxy?

Err in Frontier movie , Battle Galaxy never appear as Galaxy executive just hijack Battle Frontier.

It seems that main villain are rogue NUNS as they seems steal Windermare  Protoculture wing ship and  install it in their Macross ship 

You such a Kill joy Saito. I love to see how Max being doing nowadays in Delta era and I love to see his interaction with his Granddaughter Mirage which give more development to Delta squadron especially Mirage. Also love t see Max curb stomp entire Delta squadron during training. It seems 2nd trailer delta squadron training with Max.

Max seems slightly aged. I guess being Genius able to slow his aging.
 

OMG, Frejya is dying. Look at her backneck shows her crystallization is already at late stage. Hopefully Movie show how she survive in the end.

Word on the street is the 2nd Macross Delta movie is going to be available to stream world wide on release, now that HG isn't being a little bitch.

And speaking of the movie...
 

Chuck's Super VF-31 for the movie. Looks like he has his own custom artwork on the back, had ditched the dish (though he did that in the 1st movie with the full armor pack) and they've relocated the boosters to the wing tips rather than have them sit on top of the wing. And I think that makes for a better looking super pack.

Look forward for more news

In the movie 1, Xaos done good job of ending war without that interfering from that officer who LOVE to use WMD and Illegal WMD on his FIRST plan of action.

In fact entire movie shows that NUNS leave Ernest and his army of Xaos led fleet of NUNS and won the Windermere war. WITHOUT USING WMD!

Movie 1 also shows that NUNS the one who stole DNA of Star Singer, not Lady M. Also Lady M threaten NUNS to expose their illegal operation  to ensured peace talk act fairly, unlike Verselis treaty which bullying side that lose the war.

Also Roid , the mastermind behind war, dead and their best ace is dead. So that impossible for Windermere to continue the war. Also at the end of movie 1, Keith and rest of Aerial knight realize their mistake as they saw Walkure and Xaos are not so different, risking lives for future. 

He essentially turn entire Delta story into first half of new Delta story as 90% of 2nd half of delta are skip-able He then make his entirely new 2nd half of story.

I do not think Lady M is new villain as she leader of Chaos. I think there huge reason she clone star singer, to combat greater threat.

I think Kawamori realize his mistake in 2nd half of Delta series and decieded to make better 2nd half story and finish up series story in first movie as first half of his new Delta story.

News : https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2019-02-02/shoji-kawamori-aims-to-release-new-macross-delta-film-in-2020/.142917

So its confirm that 2nd movie is pure original story and essentially sequel to Delta. I so look forward to see who new villain in movie as series villain Roid killed in movie 1.

So what you guys think of possible new villain?
 

I have sneaky suspicious that movie 2 feature more clone of star singer as possible villain. In the series Mikumo flashback shows there 3 other Star singer. Most likely villain clone other star singer and use them for their plan.

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As noted in the preceding paragraph, your contention that it was an unprovoked attack is false... the Kingdom of the Wind had declared war on and attacked the New UN Forces on Windermere IV over 8 months before and had been in a state of open warfare ever since.

As to the illegality of the dimensional weapon.  Treaties prohibit their transportation and use in the normal course of operations, but as we see later in the series the New UN Forces may deploy them under extraordinary circumstances with the appropriate approvals.  (The bit about it being illegal is from something Arad said, before the cast learned the truth about the op.  Arad was a junior officer, so naturally he wouldn't have had any way of knowing the NUNS internal cover story that Wright'd stolen an undocumented warhead was a cover for an approved mission to destroy the ruins.)

Also, as noted in my previous reply, the only reason the dimensional warhead was detonated over a population center was that Wright Immelmann disobeyed orders and deliberately loitered in a city's airspace while carrying a WMD.  His orders were to proceed to an unpopulated location and bomb that.

Whether Wright Immelmann actually stole the Star Singer DNA or simply found it before the locals did while investigating the ruins is unclear.  It would hardly be the first time that anti-government forces made a claim like that to vilify their opposition in Macross.¹  Given that we're shown that the ruins/ship can conceal or reveal information selectively, that he simply found the system that DNA was kept in first seems reasonably likely.

Seito, you have confirmation biased on NUNS, did you even watch ep 25? Black box from Wright VF-22 already shows that  Wright are UNDER ORDER to bomb Sigur which already confirm at that time RIGHT UNDER capital which Major population center.  Wright already figure out what type of bomb he carry and caught win on his corrupt boss scheme , Try to drop to isolated area. Unfortunately his boss caught wind Wright intention and ARMED BOMB remotely and take control of Wright VF. . With  little time left, Wright tries his best to drop the bomb on most less population area which end up casualties which include Bogue entire family. If Wright FOLLOW his boss order which you suggest, EVEN more casualties. Obviously you did not watch ep 25 delta or confirmation bias if you missed out that revelation!

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What corrupt NUNS officer?  The Macross Delta TV series sort of halfheartedly tried to make Major Valan look evil or at least duplicitous... but the actual story undermines that pretty thoroughly with the repeated reveal that the local NUNS brass are just way better informed about the scope of the threat than Xaos is and kept it close to avoid causing a panic as they worked on countermeasures.  

Even their shadiest move, deploying that dimensional warhead during Windermere's first war with the New UN Government, turned out to be a well-intentioned and strategically sound move which only became a controversial disaster because they didn't realize that the elite pilot selected for the mission had been compromised.

  

Yeah right, you only one who thinks he a good guy as he plan to blow up entire planet using Illegal WMD  and cover it up as 'accident' again! Also i heard that he and co conspirator use Dimensional bomb to cover up their illegal operation of stealing Star singer DNA. The movie 1 already highlight what happen if NUNS allow competent commander in charge as they manage to win the war in much shorter time and NO ILLEGAL WMD WERE USE!. Also  Major Valan care less on Ragna and happily retreat after his bomb  only reveal ruin instead of evacuating civilian! Also Hayate father refuse to bomb civilian capital as the half broken ship were below capital full of innocent people.

That my opinion on movie. Also I dont agree on rating on movie very high solely on nostalgic only. Im only saying that rating on DYRL movie high solely on nostalgia only are not reliable as DYRL to me have fair share of flaw. . Its like rating Gundam ZZ higher than Gundam 00 because Nostalgia, despite ZZ actually has poorer story.

Just saying dont put DYRL pedestal too high.

Ill point that reason I put Delta movie above Plus movie was that Macross Plus movie just rehash of OVA with 3% of the original content in movie like Guld gdogfight fight X-9 Ghost and introduction of Guld and Isamu reunion, Delta has more original content, improve Delta overall plot and better action scene than series vesion. Dogfight  between Messer and Keith are better than Plus as Plus dogfight only show at the end movie are still conventional maneuver and slower than Delta. Although due to YF-19 and YF-21 build before EX-gear prevent them perform crazy high G maneuver like Messer vs Keith and Guld use that maneuver end up kill himself and also no actual Macross ship battle.. The reason I still rank high due to YF-19 are one of my most favorite VF and its my first Macross Movie to watch. The reason DYRL rank lower than Delta due to 85 % of Movie are romance plot and drama. Also Space battle a bit lacking and  dogfight too short. Rank higher due to more original content. You cannot biased on DYRL solely on nostalgia.

Like in review, Frontier Movie 2 are my most favorite as its has more original content and ACTUALLY FIX entire 2nd half of Frontier series. Space battle also more awesome than Series finale version and Grace actually more realistic. I mean you cannot erase emotion that easily and shows that due to raising Sheryl, she actually realize her mistake and change her mind. The reason she still follow Galaxy conspirator,due to they take control her mind and finally SMS get to fight true villain of Frontier series, Galaxy leaders in movie. Also movie has actual new VF, YF-29.

By the way what do you guys think of VF-31 Armored pack?

I hope by traveling another galaxy, we get to see multiple type of sentient being that different than Protoculture and Vajra. Also whole new set of tech