MilSpex

why o why do kids these days equate new with automatically better?

Heres a fun fact for you young people, the quality of animation is not a function of its age, it is a function of the hard work of the animators. Hard work was around a long time before you were even born.

ipods, digital high definition, also worse than their predecessors. Lots of stuff is worse now than it was. Standards have gone down if anything.

Nice MII knowledge Seto Kaiba, I`m looking forward to your redesigned site.

I rewatched MII subtitled for the first time in a while today, it truly is the most authentic Macross sequel to me. No other sequel feels like Macross imho.

Saw Hulkamania in Sydney last weekend. Was a great American style show but Hulk himself was showing his age and all the wrestlers had to change their names from their WWE etc ones because the tour isnt affiliated.

I was lucky enough to pick up an AES from a Hard Off in Japan a few years ago for $25, only with one arcade stick however. I scoured every Hard Off in Western Kanto got another 6 common games for about $4 each, then I went to Mandrake in Nakano and got King of Fighters `96 and then to Super Potato in Akihabara and got Metal Slug 4. My holy grail is Metal Slug X but the price is just too nuts right now.

My suggestion to less OCD Metal Slug fans is to get a Wii, the Metal Slug collection and the official Neo Geo arcade stick available for Wii in Japan. Its an exact replica of the AES stick but plugs into the Wii.

I also suggest not getting a Neo Geo CD, the load times are terrible.

I think some people are misunderstanding my use of the word hack. I mean hack as in amateur, not as in hacking up a work so it is different from the original. but whatever....

The Macross II continuity sits better with me.

While Macross II isn`t perfect, the Nue continuity just has too much goofy stuff that doesn`t sync well with the original series imho.

The poster who had the two continuity theories places FB 2012 in with the Nue continuity but theres no reason it can`t be in the MII continuity. Perhaps in the MII continuity mankinds` attempts to colonise space werent so successful and emigration/exploration fleets were destroyed by the Zentraudi or were MIA like the Megaroad in Nue continuity?

Macross II strong points include the mecha, character designs and the music. The story wasn`t great but I too am looking forward to Gubaba`s far future translations of the novels.

My dream come true would be if Big West decided to dump studio Nue and Kawamori and his desire for the fate of the original trio to remain a mystery and independently developed a full length series chronicling the voyage of the Megaroad into deep space and its encounters with the Protoculture and the Supervision Army, all set in MII continuity. I`d like to see a lot of staff from Legend of the Galactic Heroes involved to keep it mostly serious and avoid any comedy valkyries or moe.

dyou have a link to where we can hear this Chinese version ?

I got it off that Macross direct download page.

Coolness, thanks Blue Max!

Thankyou Gubaba, do you know the pinyin for the name?

Is it sung in Cantonese or Mandarin?

Graham

I`m no expert but it sounds like Cantonese to me?

I have a copy of DYRL sung in Chinese, I was wondering who the singer is. Thanks.

Hell- in real time combat, even frickin' snipers are "moving." I mean - come on - if you're a sniper during a fire fight, then chances are that you're moving. There's explosions going off shaking the ground, there's airplanes flying around. The tree you're in can move.

I mean - come on. SDFM TV had Hikaru's FAN JET function perfectly well in OUT SPACE. Minmey and Hikaru should have been crushed or frozen to death.

Snipers don`t move when they`re taking a shot. They try to move as little as possible when taking a shot.

Correct me, I may be wrong but didnt Hikaru use the additional jet boosters on the fan jet to maneuver in space?

I love everything Itano said in that interview. Sure MF looked pretty but it wasn`t really Macross in a lot of ways, the main being pandering to lame moe trends.

I`m 31 and the same way as you, Peter. When I saw Robotech in `85 I literally cried when the last episode aired. So theres definately nostalgia. But the series definately has an authentic, non mass produced and non commercial quality about it. You can tell it was made with love and passion and I respect that. It was also made in an era when Japan was mega rich, gritty robot dramas were popular and people had more creative freedom. For every few crappy scenes that were made in SDF because of time constraints theres a beautiful scene that kicks the ass of anything on TV out there today.

why waste money on all these poor imitations of the original when theres so much original series product to collect? Its better to keep a collection focused when you dont have an unlimited budget.

My personal canon doesnt include M plus, M7, MF or M0. They never happened as far as I`m concerned. They didnt hold my interest at all so why bother? MII and certain video games are in my personal canon however.

As a OG series purist I`m personally looking forward to Gubaba`s translation project and my next trip to every Mandrake in Tokyo.

Just pick and choose what you like, didnt Kawamori say that each Macross show now exists on a different plain of Macross reality to avoid continuity arguments or something?

I can easily see tons of lonely Japanese salarymen or public servants buying this with their next bonus (All Japanese full time employees receive an average of 2 months salary as a bonus twice yearly). Thats mostly why you see so many Japanese nobodys with expensive gear and possessions.

Uh and Macross Plus The Movie was written before the OAV and the entire time it was intended to be done as the movie. The OVA was expanded from the movie.

I didn`t know that.

That is not a very good example. Whatever, Manga barely touched it. Give me a break.

Any amateur hack could take out the endings and openings of a title and repackage it as a completely different title to resell to dumb fans. Like me for example, before this thread. Manga video ARE hacks as in amateurs. Official Japan releases only please.

Hack job? All they did was take out the opening and closing theme on all the episodes but the first OP and last ED. They didn't even cut out the title cards.

I wasnt using `hack` in the sense of hacking off parts of the stories but as in amateur.

Compared to Mac Plus Movie Edition which had new animation and a streamlined continuity it was a hack job. Any hack could make MII the movie with two VCRs.

To the best of my knowledge, yes, it was never released in Japan.

I think you`re right, yahoo auctions, jp wikipedia and amazon.co.jp yielded no MII movie editions for me.

The movie is just all six episodes played back to back with the OP and ED sequences edited out.

er, that wasn`t my question. I know its what you wrote, I`ve seen it.

Macross II : `The Movie` was never an official Japan release was it? It was just a Manga Video hack job right?

Looks like a good straight forward SF story, no contrivance noticable.

thanks Area 88, I can never get enough of `80s anime. Even if its bad `80s anime always has a special quality that makes me feel all warm inside.

just like I prefer my ipod over my aiwa personal cassette player,

why? ipod sounds like absolute feces. aiwa made some beautiful portable cassette players, nice and slim with full alloy bodies and you can easily get better sound off a well mastered analogue cassette than out of a tinny ipod playing digital MP3s. A better comparison would be tape to Hi MD. Now Hi MD is a newer format that truly is a worthy of praise. ipod is complete garbage, if it were a valkyrie it would be a rough approximation of a valkyrie made with popsicle sticks and held together with spit.

Mine was the VF-1S version of this.

Had the same wonky laser rifle (though kinda neat in a way).

Hahaha, I had the Roy in the OP, also bought from a flea market in Australia. They must have made millions of those things in the `80s. talk about a flashback. It wasn`t my first "macross" toy tho, it was Jetfire.

Yeah, this has been the huge scandal of the week. The conversations i've had over this latest scandal are funny.

Friend-"Alex! Did you hear that Noriko Sakai is missing? OMG!!! WTF!!!"

ME-"Yeah, I did. What is she famous for again?"

Friend-"Fu@%ed if I know .................................... what?"

Good to hear drug users are being punished. Japan definately has old school drug laws, one of the things I like about it here. Maybe this story will convince other users in Japan to flush their stash and go straight.

If you did YOUR research, you would have been able to tell him that in the future, it is Japan which will take over America!

Just to confirm everyone knows Japan has been in economic stagnation (no growth to speak of) since 1991, right?. Recent article in the economist:

"I think Japan has appeared to be a safe haven to some investors," he says, "and I don't understand it." He notes that industrial production there is down about 30% and exports have dropped almost 40%.

Moreover, Weinberg thinks Japan, with its huge fiscal deficit and exploding debt-to-GDP ratio, is in worse shape than Europe and North America. And he says he has found no evidence that the new government likely to take power after elections in August has any plan to close the deficit. "Structurally, cyclically, and super-cyclically Japan is flawed," says Weinberg. "I think Japan is economically broken."

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[Another guy's] bottom line: "Japan is a country very slow to change, in contrast with much of Asia and America," he says. "I think there are more attractive places for capital these days."

This unquestioning acceptance of heresay as fact is responsible for a lot of misinformation such as a man made global warming consensus, the need to switch to renewable energy (this has been dangerous in that growing corn for fuel contributed to a global food shortage) and that China will overtake the US (The Chinese put PLASTIC into baby milk to save a few bucks, don`t have ANY reputable brand names, are just building their first aircraft carrier [The US has 11 supercarrier battlegroups] and don`t care about anything long term, just making a buck today) China will never overtake the US in our lifetimes.

My PS2 though celebrates its 8th year anniversary this summer, never had any problems. A lot of fond memories, got it while I was still an undergrad scrapped a lot of pennies for it. I don't think I'll ever sell it, there are still quite a few games I want to play, like finish off Xenosaga part 2/3. The only problem is that it looks like crap on HD screens

My modchipped Jap Saturn is 12 years old and outputs HD.