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Finally, next is world peace.

lol, you don't know MEMO too well do you.

I hate taxes, but breaking the law is contemptable. If he did it, he should go down.

I'd agree, that this is in the 'wishful' thinking category. I could be that the reason we've not heard much lately is because of this transition. I'm certain Takara is very much aware of the legal battle and certainly has a position on the matter. But, we have no indication of what that is yet. Though, at one of the Robotech panels at AX, Alan Letz, who's pretty much been in Japan for the last few months overseeing Shadow Chronicals, said that it's highly probable Shadow Chronicals will become a sequel to Mospeada in Japan. Whatever that portends, I have no idea.

First time I've heard of this but perhaps they're speaking of buying RT and any anime related business from HG. They wouldn't want to take on all their other ventures.

This is an argument only a good game of Heroclix can sort out. Ummmm...love me some Heroclix.

Sorry, I meant this entire arguement is and does need to be nitpicky. I was not trying to attack you. I haven't gotten my sealegs back yet. Keith's post was directed at the creation of SDF Macross, and I was speaking specifically about the Jan 03 ruling which was about SDF Macross. And, regarding SDF Macross TP doesn't have the Moral Right but, does have "everything else."

I'll give you that the Jan 2003 ruling does not specify who has the Moral Right to SDF Macross. My assumption has always been that it belongs to Studio Nue. Yes, I understand Moral Rights granted to the creator of a work, I guess I've forgotten how nitpicky things can be around here.

You're right I should be specific. I am refering to exactly what the Japanese court ruled in the January 2003 ruling. That BW's claim to the copyright of SDF Macross are the Moral Rights given only to the creator's of a concept or idea. The same ruling basically said that internationally TP has everything else.

Although it could be interpreted as Harmony Gold covering their own butts from prosecution, I really think that, if you look at The Sentinels, the characters are SO changed that one couldn't really argue to the contrary. (Though I always found it interesting to think of Max's look in The Sentinels juxtaposed with his look in Macross 7...) Oh, and about the VF-1?--The original Valkyrie series never showed-up in The Sentinels animation, only the Alpha-Beta/Legioss-Tread series. Hmm...Kinda gives notice once again to the idea that Harmony Gold had worked to use the material (at least in animation) to which they hold rights, and not challenge mighty Big West to a legal duel. Actually the VF-1 did make an appearance in the Sentinels during the wedding piece. When HG decided to release the footage of the failed series as a direct to video movie they included footage from the original Macross series in order to fill in some vacant spots.

Except for that time that HG tried to claim no one can release tranforming Valkyrie toys in the U.S. because they own designs like the VF-1 & the U.N. Spacy insignia.... Or the time that HG said no one can release Macross sequels in the U.S. becasue they own them all....no HG has never tried to interere with anything creative in Macross! Those issues don't involve creative rights. What you are talking about are distribution and merchandising rights. Creative rights is a very specific term with legal significance.

I've never seen HG try to claim creative rights to anything related to Macross. SN did sue to get the design work issue claified, sure. But, I've never heard of an instance where HG tried to exploit Macross in a manner only the creators would have the ability to. Even when HG attmepted to produce the Sentinels they did what was necessary in order to avoid infringing on the original work. And even now, HG is producing an animation that is based on a work that they can exploit, Mospeada, and not Macross.

Hah, you say that like it's possible to write a sub track that everyone will be pleased with. There's no such thing. The AX panel today claified that the movie rights are still in limbo. Merchandising however...

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Surprised I there aren't any pics from AX. I'll post a few of the production model Toynami had on display. The Harmony Gold panel had one on hand for fans to handle and play with. I didn't want to fight the crowd waiting to touch the thing. But, I'm highly impressed. Something I never said about the Macross MPCs.

As of right now they are still competitors. That seems like reason enough. And I don't know that Toynami has all toy rights. Even if they did, there could be a way for Toynami could act as a distributor. Besides, the fact that they've said as much past.

HG has always said that they would love to deal with Yamato and Bandai. The hold up on that hasn't been on their end.

I'm going on vacation the day it comes out. I hope you all are going to still have a torrent available for me to DL when I get back from Hawaii.

yyyyyyyyaaaaaaaawwwwwnnnnnnnn... wha...somebody say something...right...just keep the q-tip out of your mouth before you cut yourself...*zonk*

why would it? We want quality products, not crappy bootlegs. I was thinking more about expectations from the production end of things. I know they're popular with consumers, but production on items like these always seems to underestimate demand. Yamato, HG, Toynami aren't the only ones to do this, just recently Wizkids ended up with a major fiasco on their hands with their Heroclix Galactus.

My money is on a lack of interest. As much as they've been discussed around here, I don't think too many people actually planed on buying them. That's my initial thought also. They're still going to be called DYRL Superposeables, but I never saw any interest in these really. The pre-orders prolly weren't good at all. I hope this doesn't put a damper on the potential popularity of Yamato Valks.

Could be that Robotech Pool Cleaners was registered during the period between 1992 and 2001. I would imagine they would be grandfathered into having the ability to use the name. I suppose the pool cleaner company could have challenged the Robotech Trademark, but obviously it went through so they probably didn't care or they did and that's why it took 2 years for the trademark to register, in any case it belongs to HG now. Not completely. They have it in areas where tehre isn't a pre-existing user. If Harmony Gold ever wants to make a Robotech pool cleaner, they can't. I don't see where we disagree, but thanks for the follow-up anyway.