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Corrected.

What we will probably see is something much like how Mylene remembers Minmei with how the Frontier cast remembers Basara and Fire Bomber, heros and idols of another era.

The HW version will be a near complete remake even if they did use the original material. Heck, StarScream flipped through Gerwalk mode...

But for monsters with no ranged attack, AC-130s would mince em. The Hollywood Zilla would have been minced if AC-130s or A-10s got him in sight.

Only if they were able to throw collateral damage to the wind.

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It is my belief that this is part of an opening introductory sequence, a la what is seen in M7's first few episodes.

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I agree. They've used that method right from the very beginning of Macross so it makes great sense to continue it. But I wonder if they will also tie in M0 or not because of it's separation time-wise.

The Macross 25th Anniversary Special program that was announced earlier this month will air in Japan on December 23 at 26:50 (effectively 2:50 a.m. the next day) on the Kansai region's MBS station, and on December 28 at 25:15 (1:15 a.m. the next day) on the Tokyo area's TBS station. The one-hour special will include a retrospective of previous Macross projects and a special compilation of clips from the first episode of Macross Frontier. This will be the first new Macross animation footage to premiere on television in over 12 years.

MERRY *****'ING CHRISTMAS!

Sweetness, I really hope that we are going to be getting some refined footage and not the current material.

Or maybe try some singing by a teenage Chinese restaurant waitress?

Maybe Gamera...

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... naw! Gamera's into little boys.

@Roy Focker, don't tell me you actually watched most monster/horror movies for their actors!!

I suppose we can try to explain that by saying, well, if there was a 400ft tall fire-spewing, building crunching lizard/bug/mushroom, we wouldn't want to get within stompin distance would we?

We could. But I think that it was said best in the manga Cannon God Exaxxion.

"Hey it's like we're crawling! Can't we go any faster?"

"But we're already moving at 120 mph."

Scale kills when your on the ground and even being a full mile away isn't gonna help you when something that big is moving that fast!

Just once I'd like to see them drop a Fuel Air bomb on a big monster.

I've got to echo 1st Border Red Devil on this one. I got the distinct "Clash of The Titans" vibe from just the trailer!

This has "pet project" all over it...

Ah but this wasn't originally supposed to be the end of the season just the end of Chapter 2 and the setup for Chapter 3 both of which are part of Season 2.

Current groups:

This generation of Heroes.

The Company(previous gen of Heroes).

And the group that are killing the Company (Adam and Nightmareman...and now maybe Peter).

Not really a last minute introduction of a manipulating group is it?

I wouldn't exactly call them 'a group'. Far too many different agenda's on each others plates. Adam has a grudge about being confined for decades. NMM has grown a conscience for some lame reason. And Peter has been so mindfarted be EVERYONES own little personal agenda's from the shows beginning that he'll just tag along with about anyone who makes sense. So it's too loose for it to be called a group.

kalvasflam, I can't see Hiro doing anything about revenge. He's accepted his fathers death even though he could've gone back and fixed his whole bit of stupidity to begin with.

I saw that story too. Now I'm all conflicted an' stuff...

WuT!?!?

Given the 4Chan level of QUALITY writting that existing in today's media how could you REMOTELY be "conflicted n' stuff"....

...good god does that sound like something from Penny Arcade...

DA,

If we assume otherwise suddenly you've got yet another group manipulating things, but without a single bit of background nor introductions never the very end of the season. Not even "The X-Files" series pulled that! And they pulled alot of stuff.

So I can't buy into that.

Must be a tall monster if this soldier's firing an AT-4 at a 45 degree angle. Also note the M1A2 OR A1 behind him pointing it's turret in the sky.

Shooting at a shape blocks away + film making = really stupid looking army guys.

Let's keep in mind that the designer of the destroids that appeared in Macross Zero is listed in the production staff for Macross F.

Umm... I could've swore that those were mere re-designs of existing designs.... and frankly fans put out redesigns faster than hate mail.

We'll know more when we see more of the Capital ships and other mechanical designs.

I wonn't mod a fellow mod's posts, but c'mon DA, have a little respect for spoilers...

BAH!!

Not even spoiler worthy material. The future paintings have ALWAYS been correct so the viewers already knew what was going to happen weeks ago!

((Yes NY does blow up! They've only saved it once, but according to both last seasons "future past" eps. and this seasons Sylar kill of illusion girl.... these only reinforce that the future WILL happen. ))

@DA, it would be Claire's not Adam's. Would you waste his on a mere field agent especially when Claire's was so handy and easily gotten?

Maybe all the streets are full of so much junk/rubble there's no way you could get anywhere?

In EVERY movie?

I just had a thought. I'll probably be in the minority here, but I hope when the new series is released on disk that it is released on plain old DVD and not just BlueRay (or whatever the next gen disk format is). Or ideally released on DVD and BlueRay, which would be a win-win situaton for consumers.

As much as I love Macross, I really don't want to fork over a whole load of cash to upgrade my TV and movie player yet, just so I can watch Macross F in BlueRay or HD or whatever. I'm still quite happy with DVD.

Heck, there's no way my wife would ever approve the expenditure anyway unless my TV and DVD player were both to suffer sudden catastophic unreparable failure and a HD TV and next gen player suddenly dropped in cost to the cost of standard TVs and DVD players.

Graham

Well there are players out there that will play all 4 mediums(Blu,HDDVD,DVD,CD) and aren't expensive nor really cheap. Last time I saw one was 2 months ago at around 600 USD.

Inflation Girl!

That was a good moment because it really adds to the generally WTF!!! confusion. Completely reminds me of the movie "The Thing".

My only complain is that why do the characters always run past perfectly good and usable vehicles. I mean sure it looked good in the 1940's-1970's, but come on!

Shades of a previous episode in Season 1. lol!

Yeah shades... really small ones but shades none the less.

was a brilliant move, but would've killed the show since basically the rest of the cast/characters stinks. Shame the rest of his 'cliffhanger' was crap though.

Empathic Cop. Thrown out. Became Daddy's boy. Dead character. Needs off'd.

The Indian doctor. Would someone just kill this annoying guy already. He doesn't move the plot along and has no real part in the show any more.

Watching this show right now is watching the Hindenburg burn. Hella neat visually, but without feeling or relevance. Thank god the series is done.

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isnt' the the direction starfleet was heading? Make one big ship as a flag ship but surround it with smaller and more efficient designs?

Pretty much. This is why the Galaxy class was demoted/promoted to a CNC/Carrier/Support ship.

The writers/producers of trek during DS9/VOY basically brought the modern naval concepts back into Trek when they found out war story's sold and brought the audiences in (This was why most of ENT was just a long war/FX story instead of humanities first steps to the stars and the creation of the Federation.).

they now say rampage the movie

I'd pay money to watch that!!

Ok after watching the new trailer it doesn't look that bad, but the camera work stinks and completely reminds me of the garbage camera work in the BSG2's battle scenes. I also firmly echo the points about it being nicely Lovecraftian. Sadly like most trailer/teasers now-a-days the plot's given away as are many of the 'awesome' scenes

They'd be able to draw from nearly 70+ years of history. Now whether or not Kawamori and crew use that to their advantage is up to them.

I truly don't see that happening. Both M2 and M7 only used the original Macross as an historical basis. The Big Head has firmly shown that M history doesn't need to be dealt upon and only the "here and now" only really matter for the story unless it's a required part of the story's background (m7's intro???).

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Yeah there looks too be a City ship in the commercial as well.

I agree with Beltane70. The VF-25 does not fly apart. I've had to correct people on other message boards about this as well, it seems for some reason people are mentally blocking the "fuselage forks" and are mesmerized by the embellishing CG effects. In fact, the VF-1 is the only Kawamori design to my knowledge that cheats with the separation of the legs. Every other design stays together during transformation. Besides, Macross already had it's "Super Robot" phase in Macross 7 and it's since bounced firmly back into real robot with Macross Zero. I don't think there's anything to fear with Macross Frontier on that issue.

I see the forks your referring to now. Sadly the connection is fairly dubious like many transforms that hand wave the connections. Maybe I'm just tired of seeing the "dramatic zoom in while the hero transforms" camera work. I still think the design is more than a bit Fugly in all modes though, but that could be the horrible 3D making it look that way since the design is WAY too detailed to work with CelShading materials.

I'm beginning to think that I need to stop looking at M:F material until at least June/July of next year because it's starting to look like something I'll pass on. Final Fantasy with mecha. And that's something that I never wanna consider Macross to be.

I'd hate to be the guy that designs that toy. Friggin bits sticking out everyhwere!

It's already designed! It's in 3D so all they have to do is "print" the thing.

Anyways on the commercial....

At the 5 second mark is that a big arsed Yamato styled warship or what! Also it looks like their will be a version of City 7 ala City 10. Looks yummy though!!

At the 9 second mark we see, "poo BLOWS UP!", another ship with a 4 nacelle setup. Warship? Ally? Foe? On this note it really does look like this will be a partially human on human war with some aliens thrown in. Come on Anti-UN!!! LOL!

At the 7-8 second mark the transformation sequence clearly shows that Macross has now become the home of Super Robots. Valk's flying apart and recombining via energy beam handwavium oh freaking my! Not happy at all....

So pretty - love the feet and legs and the V-stabilizers in gerwalk!

Glad you like those. I hate'em! Those feet look like bad copies of a Gundam foot.

I watched Mondays ep. and by the end felt that the entire reason why it was shown was due to the writers strike.

Every key 'flashback' scene, except for Hiro's bs, was shown and nearly all of the niggling character questions were quickly tied up and the "season's" ending confrontation between Peter & Sylar were advanced into the final phase. In a way this has saved the season because it's been very boring and just poorly written because it stayed with most of the existing characters but kept on bringing in more characters overloading both the show with cast and the viewer with unneeded materials. They badly needed to have only a few of the characters from first season and the rest new characters/powers. Also having a good portion of the story "Internet Only" certainly doesn't help the show either!

Sophomore year dip.

And hopefully somewhere along the course of the show, that lead will get a better haircut...

I doubt it. The design is hardcore bishie, so unless they can give him an equally "Bishie" haircut I doubt that it will happen. I just hope that they don't have him falling for his instructor....

Knight26, I think that was a rip from both Gundam and TTGL, so that it has more "flash" for audience appeal & "wow" factor.