chrono

Well if your looking for a story why even look at a VIDEO GAME movie? That's all I'm gonna say on that! AC is little more then, what seems to becoming squares/enixs main idea of a marketing ploy, a long advertistment/music video.

That is VERY VERY cool! I'd like to see a Apache style weapons system in addition to that large assed screen. *...wonders how hard it would be for a Gunbuster config to be built...*

Rodavan, this is looking sweeter and sweeter with every update and without a doubt be one of the most quality Starfury's built to date! It'll be even MORE awsome when you finally get it 'printed' and molds built for the kit! *hint, hint*

Not much to show because I've haven't been motived enough to work on it. That and I had problems getting the rear landing feet cut-out cleanly. Kept on giving me nearly garbage results. Got it worked out and looking pretty damned solid. Also have the missile doors built in and fully movable. Started and stopped working on the side indents for the thrusters because I don't see any easy solutions that don't radially change the area. If anybody has any references of statues/toys that have detailed rear landing gear I'm VERY interested in seeing them!!! Frankly the PM sketchs don't make sense. Also decided upon and have started researching for my next project(the Salan), however since I am totally unable to take any screen captures I have to rely on this forum for help.

Well the Escaflowne series is more industrial 'smooth' tech then organic. In a way it's simply stylised tech. But if your gonna use EVA material then you should also use RahXephon material and possibly Z.O.E. as well. But frankly all of those are well away from the Invid style that your looking at.

Damn right it's like Macross porn! Jay, sorry but that's pretty much all of the exterior detail images that Perfect Memory has. Since your into such a large project it may well be worth your time to hunt down a copy for yourself. By the way in that last color image that I posted you can see mecha scattered over the shoulder. It's a neat shot and really gives you an idea of just how blasted large the Macross is.

Another good source of 'organic' looking quasi-mecha is Masamune Shirow's work, not the movies but his books. They show a great understanding of biomechanics and that's probably one of the key features of organic looking mecha. Just gotta be careful because if you stay with a ball type of joint they all start to look the same.

Never really thought of the Invid as 'organic', until they 'bleed'. They've always come off as more 'smooth' then 'organic'. But then again there is a fine line of distinction between the two, so it's near really easy. Probably the key feature that makes the Invid stand out is the utter lack of the typical panel lines that you see in other mecha. And is the largest difference between them and the Zentraedi mecha.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/chrono2005/SDF.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/chrono2005/SDF2.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/chrono2005/SDF3.png http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/chrono2005/SDF4.png The bad news being that the first 3 have been resized, because none of them are under 400k. Silly scale scan. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/chrono2005/SDF5.png

Chrono, Are you up for emailing some scans? I have most of the SDF ref materia that's on the web. I went out and bought Design Works to trick out my valk. I know these kind of books are a godsend for canon fanatics. 326180[/snapback] Yeah I see what you mean. Virtually nothing on the english part of the web, including most of my reference sites, have those images. More then abit surprising given just how many scans that have been taken from PM! So yeah I'll dig out my scanner and get them loaded up to the net. I'll post links so everyone can grab them instead. Here's 2 that I got with a google: http://www.tvdvd.fr/tf1video/Robotech/Image/macross-193.jpg http://pwp.netcabo.pt/CoA/Graphics/Macross/macross.jpg The first image is a canon colorized version of one of the references I was referring to. Which leaves only 4 scans for me.

*respect* Really great job so far regardless of the proportions. You've captured quite well the design and the smoothness that you've added works very well, though it may come back to bit you in the end. What is your poly count so far and are you wroking in Cinema or Max? Also just how much detail are you planning to give her because several of us have the Perfect Memory(pages 139-141) book which has some EXCELLENT examples of surface detail. Keep us updated on your progress!!!

Totally dig the movie idea, but animation?? I'm seeing this in the bargin bin at most, old FF move stinker, and then maybe not because of it's material(look mommy it's a cartoon). If they dumped some money and effort into it then maybe this would've been an ass-kicking movie. Gotta agree that having Joe Mad coming on to the UA scene is VERY wrong! The guys turned into a mere concept artist(he's lost his old style) and after that CRAP batman cartoon he's not someone who should be drawing the book. Lee, Silvestri, Perez, Thibert, Choi, maybe Joe Q., Turner, or John R Jr(i could stomach him) yeah. I'd rather have the artist would did that one (older)Limited Series of the Inhumans though. They'd match up REALLY well.

For the most part it IS a generational agruement. But one based on what the perceiption of maturity is. My parents, who are know in their late 50's and mid 60's, have nearly always felt that once you become an adult ALL of your responsiblities shift towards 'family' completely ignoring any of your wants and needs for the sake of someone else. But they percieve that their really isn't any difference between cartoons and anime, because they both grew up in a period when cartoons were comic based. Which is frankly funny given how socially manipulative the 70's-80's cartoons were with their candy coated 'PC'-isms. My dad othen asks why I don't have anything 'funny' in my collection. I always tell him the truth. "I'm not into comedy." Besides what passes for humor in Japanese culture is not nessasarly funny to most non-Japanese. Anyways I've found THE perfect counter question for when I'm asked this question. "What are the differences between the fantasy of animation and the lies about reality told by regular film?"

Definatly NGE with it's plotting and overall story so far. Especially episode 3! Newer, late 90's, Getter Robo with the eyes and it's outrageous action scenes. Steel Angel Kurumi, with Nono equalling Kurumi in many ways. Episode 2's White robot reminds me of a mix between RahXephon and Z.O.E. Without the silly codpiece. Nono's waitress uniform looks like something Anne Millers would have.

I'd be easy, if I was fully trained in electronics, to add a pair of 'pen' laser to it and maybe a 'real' flame breath weapon. I would add a small Ipod to it and set it up to ID specific people and play certain types of music when it 'saw' them. Or set it up to roam the office and play annoying music when people are standing around in some areas. I'd get one if it had a MechaGozilla conversion for it though!!

http://www.roboraptoronline.com/ RoboDog, RoboSapien, and now RoboRaptor. Finally a toy aimed at the kid in us!

Oh does she ever! bsu legato, the manga should be coming out within the next 2 months, looks like they'll be using the orginals series covers style too!, and TOTALLY expect the anime to follow!!!

Will you attempt panelling like Trek or keep the finish monotone? And where are you gonna place the Spacy symbol at?

The black hole bomb was Jupiter. The entire planet had been turned into one massive weapon, compressed to 1/30000 its normal size. Kazumi states this in episode 6, so I don't see how man could have populated it. I am going to have to watch episodes 2 and 3 of Top 2! just to see what I missed. As for the enemy, mankind's plan was to lure all the aliens to one spot and use the bomb. The aliens showed up in force in excess of 26,000,000,000 units before the bomb was to explode. I would think this is a little overkill for taking on a handful of ships numbering in the tens of thousands, but these guys were there for a purpose, and that was to wipe out humanity. So, when the black hole bomb went boom it turned the entire center of the galaxy into one huge assed black hole. While humanity was prepared for it and escaped, I do not think the aliens could have. Maybe on the outer fringes. Which brings up their methods of reproducing. If we go by what you are saying, then humanity would have been alerted to the increased amount of stars dying at one time. The aliens procreate by laying their eggs into the heart of a g-class yellow star. To even get their numbers back to where they may have once been would take a long time. I would think that humanity would have stationed outposts just to ensure that the alien menace was indeed dead. All in all, I do not think the new aliens are the same as the old ones. But they may be related to the insects of the original series. With three episodes to go, I guess we'll find out. However, if these Uchuu Kaiju are the original aliens, then that makes Noriko's and Kazumi's sacrifice at the end of the original show a waste. 323720[/snapback] The Jupiter point was made by the white haired chick in the early part of Episode 3. It maybe a red herring or simply just for wow factor. The reproduction part is VERY easly explained away. The speed of light. During humanity's recorded history we've seen few stars nova. How many have we seen just go dark? Besides the effects of the BHB would not even be viewable from earth for at about twice the time that Noriko and Amano spent traveling home. The aliens showed up with a fleet of 26+ trillion even with several thousand aliens born from a single star that's still several hundred million to several trillilion dead stars. That's quite a few for any single galaxy or galactic cluster. Any how we'll see, or not.

*note I've only seen the second episode from the first series* Yeah episode #3 was acutally really good. Nicely balancing characterization, background history, science, and action. The science was that time can be influenced be incredible negative tempertures. I've read SF books that used this theme. From what I've seen so far it looks like the BHB did kill ALOT of the aliens, but if we follow the ideas of the aliens being antibodies/insects then it may have been that it's taken them a long time to repopulate to even larger numbers. It also can be said that the BHB couldn't have gotten them all because the unvierse and the galaxy is simple to large a place to do so. SOoooo..... they may have been having a running battles with the aliens for hundreds of years. Jupiter being turned into a giant warship, partially destoryed, and then populated says to me that the battles have been large scale and long deadly ones. The lack of mention of EXTRA Solar colonies tell me that humanity still fears being found and or that those colonies have been destroyed by the aliens. Also the lack of Buster units not being built in decades tells me that the war is/was at a lull or humanity is being stupid. Still trying to figure out Nono's part in all of this besides the humorous robot T&A sidekick. Frankly I hope that the alien Buster Machine is a familar face.... er.... face plate.

Oh I'm planning on getting one, but that'll be in a few months. Gotta save my pennies first. And thanks for the comments.

Well I over reached. Didn't take into account how bogged down my comp. would get after I extracted the main body. *grk!* So I've dealt with slow down, numerous crashs, reducing the poly count while maintaining smoothness, AND adding details. *Sigh* ONLY good point is that I've been able to reduce the poly count down 100k. Unfortunatly I'm still over on my poly count by 50K(300K+ right now) and I've still got to add the 6 missile bays(only have to build 3 since it's mirrored), side thrusters(which are complete I just have to build the side and reduce their poly counts), the rear landing gear, the canopy, the little surface bits, and the minor tweaks before I call it finished. Not alot but it'll still be time consuming to do. Gonna have to decide what to do next...

Frankly even with the amount of input they wanted, and seemingly got, they'll saddly realize they are not in control of anything. They may have the naysay on somethings, but they'll lose if the exe want changes made. The fact that they brought in a writer, when they said that they already had a script written(or at least a majority of one), tells me they've already lost 90% of their creative control and have minimal input. I'm expecting another LoTR fanboy revolt and bashing at early release info and imagery. The best of for a Halo movie is that it doesn't get made.

UPS - 90% of the time the product is fine and within 1 day of predicted time, other 10% is slightly roughed up and late. FEDX - 95% of the time I've had excellent service and the deliver drone is personable, unless they are pressed for time. A couple of times I've had beat-up packages and 1 larger package was beat-up badly, had cuts, was crushed and clearly bent. I lucked out because it was a book of good thickness. Still wasn't happy though it cost me 60 bucks for that book and was a difficult find. DHL - Never had them. I've found that it generally depends on the box's size and labels on it. ALL of my anime boxs have been of virgin quality, but anything else has been abused somewhat.

... downloading ... Damn 56K!