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Yeah, I just finished watching it again and I liked it. I don't know why there's so many people angry with it.

The dogfights were incredible, I don't care if they're realistic or not. The whole thing with the thrust-vectoring nozzles was so cool. I wonder why that bit of animation was never addressed in Macross TV series or DYRL, as I'm sure the VF-1 series was cabable of it.....

Another nice touch was the monster...I know, some people are crying about the claws....but aside from that, what was really cool was the cannons firing consecutively, rather tha all at once. Nice sound effects as well.

Anyway, awesome. I hope froating head doesn't end the Macross franchise here....

I think in SDF the VF's basically have to use vector thrust to get around since the wing/tail flaps wont work in space. When they have the fast packs on, they probably use the auxillary nozzles to adjust position as shown in DYRL.

So far in Macross, I think the best dog fight scenes all take place in the atmosphere (although the space fight in the beginning of macross + was awesome as well).

IF the claws have funtion or not, it was added for asthetics and to look cool. LIke any design, some like it, some dont. They added it to make it look cool then thought of some ish to have it there. So they came up with the anchoring it down idea. Maybe the claws have some other function, just cuz it was not shown in the anime doesnt mean that it doesnt have other uses. Why does the monster have feet? Just put wheels on the damn thing. WHy even have it look like a robot. Just use a simple tank design. Because a robot looks cooler. Simple.

I agree with ya...there is no purpose of the monster having feet. given how much it can lift the foot off the ground, it probably can't clear many obstacles. also I bet any robot with feet will travel slower than ones with wheels.

in anime it's all about cool factor- so if everyone on MW seem to have never complained about the feet, i don't see how the claws should bother anyone.

Whatever parts, if any, that explain what is really going on, i.e., the big questions that everyone has been asking.

Thanks for the synopsis, which filled in some points of confusion, but since you haven't gotten to the end yet, I'm still pretty much in the dark. Which isn't to say that the ending will be any clearer with a perfect translation. (In very broad terms, it's clear what's going on, and it will be familiar to anyone who's seen/read enough sci-fi, but at that level of abstraction it's pretty unsatisfying to a Macross fan.)

In the meantime, I've tried over there to fill in what I remember from the ending, but I'm sure I'm leaving stuff out and misremembering other stuff.

i think many anime are moving towards 'abstraction', for various reasons. quite a few of the series i've watched recently, eg eva, rahxephon, nadesico movie, yukikaze, dont explain everything, and only makes sense if you extra explanatory material on the internet and rewatch it a few times. it's somewhat annoying in a way, especially the authors tries to be confusing/cryptic for pure sake of being confusing/cryptic, but yet it offers a good break from typical hollywood type productions where they spell out everything for you.

maybe the monster can use the claws to prevent recoil in settings outside the the deck of a military carrier where cables may not be as practical? anybody thought of that?

btw it's just entertainment. most of the coolest things in anime are the least practical and makes the least sense in real life. but that's why we watch them- to see how far and wild imagination can go. if i want some real plausible sci-fi i'd watch TLC or even read michael crichton, not anime.

just watched it for the 3rd time...i liked it the first time and it's still growing on me. i guess i just have a really open mind and the mix of sci-fi and spirits dont really bother me (although it did in final fantasy the movie). maybe some of the purists just need to sit back, relax, and enjoy the show rather than letting the spiritual components bother them so much.

I think I saw a Mig-29, but I didn't make out any Flankers. Things were moving very fast, though.

Changing gears, as nice as it was to see Shin and Nora pull Cobras, why not just do a Gerwalk brake instead? For that matter, Nora used conversion to battroid in ep. 1 for essentially the same purpose.

i believe it's because they're travelling at a speed too fast for transformation (you'd know if you're able to read the chinese subtitle) so they have to use vector thrust instead. later in the scene when you see the circular gauge go green indicating speed is ok, shin transformed into battroid. i think it was pretty cool- reminded me how edgard was always reminding shin to keep an eye on the gauge before transformation.

as another has said, the AFOS is itself a bio-mechanical kinda robot like eva or rhaxephon where sarah is the pilot. apparently it has the power to create life or destroy life depending how it's used. when sarah was first sucked into the thing a voice sounding like her father asked her if humans are living peacefully, and she said no, and then the song of destruction begins. it starts shooting rays that destroys everything, tahts when the military decided to blow it to hell using the monster. the monster destroyed parts of it but afos didnt die and rather disappeared into space. also it seems like whoever comes close to AFOS will experience extreme anger and frustratoin and become super violent.

now that i think about it....this episode sort of feels like macross vs eva or rahxephon. you have a big biomech robot with the ability to "tune" the world just like in those two series, and music is very important too in rahxephon.

at least we won't have any macross vs rahxephone threads because we all know that the latter will win..haha...

just watched it. i liked this episode alot actually....the flying ships didnt really bother me that much (sort of reminds me of laputa though), and to me it might be the sort of anti-gravity thing that Macross eventually uses to fly, so it's not too far of a stretch. the dog fights are also pretty intense- and the way nora and shin chases each other is kinda reminiscent of macross plus.

the only little downer was the ending i guess- it's really unclear what happened to sara or shin- they just disappeared into space.

i think an extra episode would really help to explain things better. but in this final episode there is never a dull/slow moment. there is not really much of a story but still, the emotional impact and action is there, at least for me. for some strange reason i really get to care about whether the characters died or not and it really held me in suspence because except for roy, everybody is up for fair game to get blown to pieces.

the music is also better than previous episodes- although the style of music is more akin to rahxephon/eva than macross, which is usually more pop than classical. it fits though, since in this macross there is no pop idol as the central character.

too bad dd and nora had to be killed by the birdman rather than roy and shin- but it doesnt matter cuz i think their deaths were execuated pretty well.

the drone on the plane seems to act just like an extra booster- although there also seem to be some sort of machine gun thingy that shin was going to use at the end but didnt get the chance.

yes the original link was chinese subtitled..yay!!

the video quality looks very good...will watch it later tonite...crossing my fingers that it'll not disappoint!! (or if it does...maybe it'll save me the $$ of getting it on dvd)

can someone please post the link for the Chinese Subtitled one?? thanks!!

wow you sure have a lucky 8 year old.....those are pretty damn sophisticated/expensive toys for avg kids that age (unless he was like me...i was very careful with my toys at that age)

thx for your comments. i agree that if i'm the original sculptor i'd be pissed off seeing ppl recasting my stuff. however many fans still rely on recasts to get the model they want, especially those outside japan. it's a really grey area of this hobby.

hello I've been looking into resin models lately (both macross and non-macross), and I have sort of a semi-interest in getting into the recast business. i still have some qualms about it because it's sort of like pirating...but anyways a few general questions:

1. Since a model can be recast an indefinite number of times (from orginal or another recast) providing that you need to remake the molds every so often, why are many models 'sold out' and never made again??

2. are there any north american recasters around? so far the online retailers I've seen are asian based...and I think hobbyfan doesn't do their own recast do they?? why are there not more american recasters/retailers?

3. Anybody have any idea on avg how much a professional model sculpter makes? either in japan or in NA

my motive is not to make tons of $$ (no intention of quitting my schooling or future job)...but just another way to sustain the hobby and make some rarer kits available to the masses, especially given how rare Macross resin models are and their high price compared with their plastic counterparts.

thanks for reading

just throw in the box the pieces, glue, the decals, some thined artist oil, shake it well and presto¡, out comes a nice model.

lol..."instant model"?? at least it works for the fighter kits....the battroid kit is unlookable without major putty and painting.

hello....i'm just wondering you didnt paint this one either right??

great job!!

It looks very much like the yamato YF-19. This convinces me that it'll be very, very difficult to produce a variable, anime correct YF-19 in battroid mode from fighter mode. The battroid has too many round edges in line art compared with the fighter. Too much anime magic is invested in the YF-19, imho. I guess the ppl in the toy section can just keep on dreaming about the 'perfect' YF-19FP

yes my bad...i did not realize it's in fact one kit.

I might be wrong but is that a CF SV-51 i'm seeing here??

http://www.hobbyfanatics.com/gallery/view_...c4a4aa44c65580c

If so...then I've gotta give it to Hasegawa for releasing 3 different kits with different decals...wait they'll probably do a combined kit a couple months later that includes all 3 decals and allow you to build whichever u choose (like the battroid kits) so some of the completists can fork out some more cash.

Hasegawa is sure great at milking a product dry...I mean Bandai do the same with their Gundams but the different releases usually have more variation than the decals.

nice!! i really like how the panel lines turned out.

How did you paint the base white? Also the line running parallel to the nosecone, is it supposed to be there or is it a big seam? If it's the latter I'd fill it because it's quite obvious.

can you tell us how you did the panel lines? looks more like it's drawn than washed...thanks!!

Can I please take a look at those FSS in question??

I've just recently got into FSS kits and would love to see any pics

sorry if it's kinda OT

Twin Moons has never carried Hasegawa, Tam's only got pretty much ARII's and a few Bandai kits, I've yanked at him to start carrying Hasegawa but he wont

I have never tried Valk exchange, never really had a purpose too but I'll probably think on it.....but also I've had alot of problems trying to build Hasegawa Macross kits....I think its cause I really don't know what I'm doing. Out of the two I've ever owned, I've dinked 'em both up beyond repair....not too mention I REALLY wanna make it look nice...and wanna give Panel linning a try without using a pen or pencil....maybe like oil based or charcel....or even spray painting it black and than white over that......I really don't know.....really I only know how to customize Gundam kits to my specifications and use a Gundam pen....but that's to thick to use on a 1/72....

hasegawa macross kits are certainly more difficult to build than gundam. The fit and construction are just not as good. It's hard doing the panel lines with a pen even if you want to because they're just too fine for even 0.05 pen tips to fit. I'd suggest doing oil on your gundams first. The hasegawas are definitely the most beautiful macross kits out there though, resins/vinyls non-withstanding.

lol, it just goes to show... ANYONE can own one of these exclusive valkyries (with a little effort)

that's true. but then many people just don't have the skill or don't want to do it because then it's not 'original'. I mean to me, I don't see why ppl would be in such a fuss over the low viz because I can take any other valk and paint it in that scheme, probably with even better results. It's the same with people wanting a 1/48 VF-1s Roy so badly when they can just buy a 1/48 VF-1s Hikaru and paint the appropriate areas yellow.

i love macross...but there's not much point in rationalizing how their nuclear engines work, even in SF theory. I mean, even in space, the valks used runway to take off (which was thankfully fixed in DYRL) which was kind of annoying. In general though, macross is pretty good in terms of realism for a 80's cartoon.

What is REALLY annoying is that even to this day, we still see huge explosions with fireballs in space (fire burns in vacuum??). But then again, 99% of movie and TV get something as simple as a gunshot sound wrong, so what am I complaining

If you're a fan of macross music then get "Macross the Complete" CD collection. It's 3 disks and contains every macross melody from the tv series and movie. it even has instrumental tracks of songs and melodies that were recorded but not used at the end. Now I don't have to watch the DVD everytime I want to listen to a song.