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Well Sheryl has this expression, Hehe!

You mean adult like this? 

I talked to Jay about it, and surprisingly they paid for it. And he said he was donating it to charity. Hehehe...

Sigh, And he even had his photobook Geekology signed by Kawamori-sensei himself.

I guess it is to be expected. I'm from the Philippines, and they forced the R series here as well. I did get a chance to watch a weird Macross version where Misa was Misa, Hikaru was Rick and Minmei was named... Maria (Hahaha!) way back 1983 or 1984. Good thing the first thing I did when I was assigned to Japan was rewatching the whole 36 episodes. And I chose Macross over Voltes V, which is very very popular where I am from

Can somebody Verify the Numbers here?

https://animesamurai.xyz/why-macross-delta-frontier/

16 hours ago, JB0 said:

They don't say why he, or anyone else, gets a custom paintjob. Hikaru got one, Max got TWO... Even Kakizaki got one, bless his uncreative heart. "Change some of the brown to white! That'll do it!"

 

Ah, here we are! Episode 24, Goodbye Girl. Misa is returning to Earth, and he's running escort in his brand-new, freshly-blued 1J.

I spot-checked every episode from 19 to 24 to find this. Because I guessed way wrong. (And why I started with friggin' Burst Point is anyone's guess. RIP Kakizaki. )

 

And right after this episode is the video arcade, the infamous knife fight, and the wedding. So my initial gut instinct of "Same time he gets hitched" was closer than my second guess, given it is only shown once before the marriage. Woulda made for a strange wedding gift, though.

Well from episode 20, Max was promoted to 2nd Lt. to First Lt. (shoui to chuui). I would assume that the guys that were with him during the Shao Pai Long movie were in his command. But during the episodes of love concert (episode 22) he was still flying with Hikaru. So we don't know when he actually assumed command and got his VF-1J.

Well from the watcher's point of view, custom paint jobs are there such that you can identify who is flying in the middle of battle. I wonder what would happen if they just colored them all brown hehe. But from the macross point of view, I'm not sure. They usually don't point out valkyrie colors until Milia colored the VF-17S in Red in M7.

Ranka Lee is another inconsistency I guess. She is Quarter Zentradi (But I think so is Mirage). And besides Ranka, which Zentradi had moving hair?

Who's idea was the "Milky Road" anyway, that you can travel between city ships using cars and motorcycles?

Good thing they made island cluster ships...

4 hours ago, AN/ALQ128 said:

Its been a while since I watched M7 in its entirety, but I can't really remember much instances of Basara's defiance of authority costing lives. In fact, it seemed to me that the UN Spacy officers were far more arrogant and made things much worse by hamstringing Basara at every turn in order to push their own off-brand idols, who weren't even half as effective as Fire Bomber. At his worst, he just annoys the military types.

He lack sense though, when you watch Dynamite Seven. He saw the whale poachers steal weaponry and during the shooting he tells them to stop and he then whips out his guitar and starts playing, with less regard to being caught in the crossfire.

Here is another I was wondering about, 

When the Protodeviln were frozen, who was commanding the Supervision Army? I would assume directives based on the mind control. But without the leaders, the objective of the army becomes useless. And if there are still remnants of them, then there are still surviving protoculture right?

If there was one thing that annoyed me with Macross 7 at first was the repetition of Basara with Planet Dance and Totsugeki Love heart in the first few episodes. If they had added one or two more songs I guess I won't be as annoyed (which they did as the series progressed)

The Try again Finale was awesome though...

Also, I don't know if I am amused or annoyed at the repetitive scene of Gamlin ejecting a laser cartridge and shooting Gavil in his Saubergeran with it in a number of episodes. 

Emerald Force didn't get much love in the series.

It would be nice if the the Thunderbolts can bring down some of the vampires as well. Something I saw in Frontier where the 171s were cannon fodder until Machida.

I wonder how would the Protodevlin fare when the face the Vajra?

On 8/30/2017 at 11:26 PM, Hiryu said:

So, like a lot of people, I was introduced to Macross via Robotech growing up. I've seen every other Macross show except SDFM and have never revisited Robotech. So I decided to finally sit down and watch SDFM for the first time. Here are a couple thoughts after getting through ~28 episodes.

- I really got a sense of the youthfulness of the characters, particularly Hikaru and Max. The fact that they were supposed to be young came across effectively through the voice actors as opposed to Robotech, where looking back I felt like they were all grown adults who acted like idiots at times. Hikaru is much more likable than "Rick".

- I wish story telling was still done this way. It's a bit slower, but I feel more engaged and I feel like I know the characters better. Looking back at Frontier and Delta, they are so fast paced that things barely sink in. 

- OMG are Max and Milia's voice actors the same ones in M7? Awesome!

- Is it me or did the art/animation get really bad towards the middle of the series and then pick up again towards the end?

- Protoculture actually makes sense now!! My world is blown! The context finally makes sense for the other Macross shows. Now I'm just anticipating getting the whole "SDF2" mess cleared up.

- I'm really appreciating the various mecha in the show, destroids, etc, even the Zentradi stuff. Glaugs rule! I love different variants/schemes for the VF-1. Seems like now the focus is just getting out the next valk evolution and calling it "better" ala the stats treadmill.

- Kamjin cracks me up with his reckless ways. As a child, I just remember "Khyron" being a less funny a-hole. 

That's it for now.

 

Well usual anime now run from 12 to 25 episodes, then extend it by seasons. The exceptions are the long running manga series like Conan, Dragon Ball, Naruto, One Piece. Those spanned hundreds of episodes.

I remember reading about Macross only planned 27 episodes, the last being "Ai wa nagareru" which was the attack of the Macross along with Britai, Laplamiz and Kamujin's fleets. There was an additional order of 9 episodes. Have to verify that again though.

Macross 7 had 49 episodes... I felt it was too long. But I guess it was profitable enough in Japan that it had also 2 Encore Episodes, 2 Movies (Fleet of the Strongest Women and The Galaxy is calling me, and an additional OVA Series (Dynamite 7)

If there was something weird with the art was the Zentradi Ears... They become more elfin with each sequel... Milia... Mylene... Klan... Mirage... they are more like Zolan then Zentradi.

Yeah, it would be nice if there was a focus on the Destroid Pilots. We have only seen Hikaru pilot a Spartan and a Lt. Dern pilot a Tomahawk.

Protoculture is something I want to see in the future series. Why are there 0 survivors? Aren't some of the members of the Supervision Army that were brainwashed also protoculture?

Question, 

Since harmony gold holds the trademark that they filed for, why does it go back to tatsunoko? Isn't distribution license different from trademark? 

I mean anybody can trademark anything as long as no one else filed for it right, regardless of who owns the intellectual property.

So I can see that Tatsunoko cannot distribute the original series as well as long as HG holds on to the trademark.

Or I am wrong?

If Mylene and Emilia can generate a lot of song energy, and even Milia can sing, I think Mirage can do it too, unless she really is the black sheep of the family when it comes to talent.

1 hour ago, RedWolf said:

No it isn't. Ranka's magic over Sheryl reprogrammed Fold Bacteria to go for the guts. When the Vajra left leaving the bacteria these critters folded themselves to the next suitable hosts Sub-Protoculture races. Here is the thing Vajra are a hivemind because of these things as they look to have minute traces of Fold Quartz. Sub-Protoculture species weren't engineered to be telepathic like that, except for the Windies. Hence Var Syndrome triggered by excessive amounts of Fold Bacteria inside the body and by Fold Waves. The chemical Seidznole causes an explosion of Fold Bacteria. Now in most cases Fold Receptors are immune to Var syndrome.

Roid's whole scheme wouldn't work on other races if it weren't for Fold Bacteria. The Song of the Star Singer was meant for the Windermereans as they all have Fold Quartz in their Runes.

 

Yeah, but we were discussing that this is the same bacteria that almost killed Sheryl until she was saved by Ranka (magic or by blood transfusion in the movie). So only the bacteria inside Sheryl were stabilized. But did it influence the other bacteria that remained? I don't think Ranka was that powerful. So when the fold bacteria occupied other bodies it would be fatal to them as it was to Sheryl, unless it was magically programmed to stay in the guts.

Also yeah, I looked that there were other Vajra Colonies other than the one that frontier encountered, because the song was actually meant for inter colony communication/breeding.

Is the VAR syndrome fatal? This is the same fold bacteria that gave Sheryl a terminal illness. If it is spread out around the universe after the Vajra left, why aren't there reports of people sick with fold bacteria in their body?

46 minutes ago, kajnrig said:

I think they could get away with making everything, even the Zentraedi, generic. Giant space aliens aren't unique to Macross. I'd love to see mecha based on something like the Ball from Gundam, though. A Ball pod that transforms into a mecha, with maybe a crawler form for hovering in atmosphere?

Giant Space Alien Military that doesn't mix genders and Ride Mecha? Hehehehe... Riding Battlepods or Power Suits? 

That would already scream lawsuit I think

Well from that they tried to distance themselves to anything Macross, that ended in less than the expectations they set.

Well I think they could still use the Mospeada Mecha instead, although when comparing spec by spec it is much slower and less powerful than the VF-1.

The warship could be generic.

The race of humanoid giants who also pilot mecha is a stretch though as that is a Macross idea.

I've heard about that thinking caps thing, and it is weird.

Current Macross Technology has BDI/BCS for use with Cyborgs as it takes too much concentration and stress for non-cyborgs to use it properly. I remember that Guld needed to empty his thoughts first before he could fly the YF-21.

I never watched the Shadow Chronicles, but were there Macross terms used in that movie? Like Macross, UN Spacy, Zentradi, the UN Spacy Logo?

Owarimonogatari Season 2. Just Finished Mayoi Hell

16 minutes ago, Brand said:

What gets at me is that, while yes, Tatsunoko and therefore HG have the merchandising rights to Macross, they only have the rights to do so for Super Dimension Fortress Macross ONLY; literally the rest of the franchise was specifically barred from their control since Tatsunoko only had a hand in animating the original series. So HG should literally have zero authority to have been blocking or objecting to the marketing of any Macross-related merch outside of Japan aside from the original Valkyries, Destroids, and the like from the first series (and Southern Cross and Mospeada). Everything from Macross Plus on should have been freely available in the U.S. with not one cent or question of permission due to HG.

 

That's all based entirely on my completely casual, amateur, nonattorney understanding of the matter, I could be entirely wrong but even as TheLoneWolf pointed out, BW/Nue own the Macross franchise and its characters entirely, aside from the animation and merchandising rights to the original series only. So anything aside from the original series' designs should have been fair game.

 

(Lot of emphasis on should in this post, sadly.)

Harmony Gold Trademarked the name "Macross" in the US other terms like U.N. Spacy, the Logo. So unless we remove the word "Macross" from all animation, as well as the other terms that they trademarked, they could still block it, AFAIK.

Voltron had it's reboot, Thundercats had it's reboot, even He-Man. We have had a lot of 80's animation reboots but if Harmony Gold really has all the rights to the Macross IP they should have done it already, I mean they could have asked Tatsunoko for funding if that were the case. But maybe they actually know they can get sued if they try to make one. Or maybe they attempted to and Tatsunoko or any other company would not sponsor it.

Here is a question, var syndrome is affected by the apples and the water, right? So if Federal NUNS suddenly appeared, they won't be affected by King Ketchup's singing right?

Well to be fair, Alto and Hayate seemed to be the only one acting their ages.

Hikaru, Max and Kakazaki were 16~17 years old. Hikaru fluctuated by showing a lot of Maturity (when asked about Zentradi Acceptance into the ship) to switching from Misa to Minmay in each episode. Max was asking himself if he can be a good squadron leader when he was given one. And Kakizaki thought that going to a nice place meant going to a night club. They should not be 16~17. Hahahahaha!

Gamlin is 17, prefers enka to rock and roll, he acts more like an old man though. Basara acts more like a child at 21

Alto had teenaged angst, based from his relationship with his father and what he wanted in life.

Hayate was a Hakuna Matata kind of guy.

Well we have these ages because the target audience is close to that I guess. Ken Washio is 18, Joe Shimamura is 18, Amuro Ray is 16, Ken'ichi Go (of Voltes V) is 18, Koji Kabuto is 16.

Only Isamu and Guld were older at 24

I dunno, I kinda got turned off by Delta during the second half of the series up to the point that I wasn't really excited when an episode was coming. And it was always a 5 vs. 5 (or 4) matchup. I'm not sure if the staff got lazy. Comparing Macross Episode 27: Ai Wa Nagareru or Macross Frontier Episodes 24~25, Episode 26 felt, I dunno, less epic and it was like just the delta squadron and the knights vs. Roid's forces. I know it was more focused on the singing but in that case, Basara wins in Macross 7's final battle.

Well I do hope the movie does better...

Delta had an overkill of having two many production units for one fighter in a single series. Any functionalities of the C, E, J, F and S units?