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Nope... Sorry... After Yamato's 1/60, this thing just looks too dumb... I can't think of another word for it.

Well, here it is... my completed RX-79(G)

If I do say so myself, I think it's a pretty good job for someone who hasn't touched a model in 20+ years.

So many people need to be edumicated in Macross... Have fun with that Seto! *pats Seto on the back and walks away*

Walking into a situation where the odds of success are astronimical, the chances of survival are nil, and the chances of a person keeping their sanity are immeasurable has been known as a path to sainthood, especially where catholic missionaries and cannibals are concerned...

Now, with that thought firmly in place, can you see a... 'Saint Seto'?

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Me either...

Haven't you seen the infamous DYRL dub?

Enjoy:

<shreiks in terror>

For this, I can only reply with personal preferences, but maybe they'll help.

As for DYRL, I prefer the subtitled version. Dubs tend to get the vocal inflection wrong, as well as the words themselves. A pair of really bad examples of dubbed dialogue would be Das Boot (Absolutely friggin' horrible as a dubbed movie), and Macross 2: Lovers Again (Again, my preference for subtitled-dialogue overrrides all).

lol wtf? Memo told you to harass everyone?

This comes as a surprise?

So tell rhade I am not a liar,he is just blind because his face is in rt.com webmasters and mods butt cracks.

Careful, bud. You're off to a hell of a good start, here, but keep it civil. Don't drop to their level.

Well, this is weird...

I'm becomming less and less of a Robotech fan, all the time. Every time some bullschwat comes out of the mouth of a guy like Bendo, Mav or MEMO, or some other idiotic drivel gets uttered by Kevin McKeever, my fan-meter gets closer and closer to zero...

Now that I look at it, it's pretty close to zero, right now.

Whoa!

I wonder how Memo will like Kevin and HG if they stop his activity on his future LAM he wants to make himself.

MEMO:

"WE HADD A GOOD THINK GOIN BUT KEV AND THEM SED THEY DIDNT WNT PPL TAKIN ATTTEMTION AWAY FROM LAM. KEV CALLED ME AND TOLD ME SO. HE SED NOTHING PERSENUL, SO I'M OK WITH IT. AFTER ALL, I COULDNT DO NYTHING AS GOOD AS HG! HEHEHE"

Or something like that... XD

Nah, if you listen to blokes like Maverick_LSC and Doug Bendo, who clearly know me much better than I know myself, I'm just here to enjoy the suffering of others between eating babies and causing earthquakes in third world countries.

Now, wait just a damn minute...

I thought you were trying to take over the world, systematically, while spazzing over an idiotic has-been cartoon franchise that's obviously been made a million times better by 'Western' storytelling!

Or... is that just your week-end hobby?

Someone might want to warn Rhade... His RT-fan Fantasy World might warrant a S&D notice from HG. I mean, HG can't compete with that kind of self-manufactured reality, so they might think of squashing it.

He's done that before, usually only to fit his bitching or his argument. It does, however, from most people's perspective, invalidates the credibility. This does indeed make him a sellout.

More to the point, he's carried the stance of "Sure, RT:TSC was a POS, but it'll ALWAYS be better than Macross Frontier!"

Disgusting!

I can't believe that I'm looking at the writings of amateurs...

The best Sci-Fi movie of all time is 'Blade Runner'!

Dubs = Fail!

"KA-NEEYYY-DUUUHH!!"

You'd be correct, in reference to the first dub, but not the second. It's pretty damn good. Not only do the dubbed voices sound more appropriate to the scenes in the film, they are more accurate, so the film makes much more sense.

He is this demon from Australia, like a Tasmanian devil , that takes the form of a giant grinning teddy bear. To summon him I had to do this long tedious sacrificial ritual and then press that little "A" key to the left of "S" on my keyboard.

I saw that in 'Akira'...

That's probably why they will constantly hate you. Because they feel you should be a hardcore RT fan. I'm sure it burns them. I got an email from someone of non importance recently, criticizing me for my stance. His idea was that I need to stay true to what I was originally a fan of. Well, my response was, "If I'm gonna stay true to what I was originally a fan of, I would've never got into Robotech. I'd have stayed a Macross fan, being that first." Lil dougie, I'm pretty sure, hates the fact that people like you, Seto, and any "smart" people aren't on their elitist gospel of Robotech. And people wonder why people refer to them as "drinking the cool-aid". Seems like they'd be the ones to easily follow the strange cults.

You know, this might not come as a surprise to anyone, but I'm still gonna say it...

The strange, awful truth of the situation has become clear to me.

Roughly a week ago, I made the decision to withdraw myself from the RT-fandom politics. Now, while the primary reason for this will remain unspoken by me, I will say that the result has been like a great weight lifted off my shoulders.

The staggering truth is that RT-fandom only survives thorugh the completely hardcore, unbending stance of its fans. If you call yourself a fan, you must adhere to a stringent code of violent opposition to all things Macross, the blind acceptance and belief in every utterance that comes out of HG, and unquestioning loyalty to the 'Mods' (I use the term loosely, for obvious reasons) that do everything in their power to silence the nay-sayers.

Now, on the other side of the coin, we have MW, and by extension, the fans of Macross in general. I've walked into this as a serious NOOB, and not only have I gotten a lot of quesitons asked (Testing the breaking point of some folks' patience, I'm sure) and even respect from said-same people.

A rather interesting study in polar opposites, to be sure.

Like I said, I'm sure this comes as a surprise to no one, but in my recently newfound clamness and serenity, I find myself compelled toi comment, and even offer my thanks to those who have given me help. You know who you are.

Okay, I'm done for now...

That better be Robotech Frontier and Mac+: The Sentinels you're talking about...your credibility as a hardcore Robotech fan is evaporating quickly.

While I've never claimed to be a hardcore RT fan, there are some who think, because I'm writing a fanfic, I should be... It's a real pain in the a$$ to have a functioning brain...

Bah, you haven't been a "real" Robotech fan for ages... you dared to willingly expose yourself to DYRL and other Macross instead of bashing them without having ever seen them like so many Robotech fans are wont to do these days.

Oh, hell... I've been found out!

Of course, it didn't hurt that your influence edged me along to DYRL, when I was blissfully and ignorantly happy with Mac+ and Frontier...

It's all your fault!!!

Well, I just found a treaure...

The Master Grade RX-79(G) kit.

One I get it put together, I'll post a few pics.

One question: Do these kits need model cement, or do they go together without that stuff?

No, of course not. After all, who doesn't like Sheryl?

Sorry, you're going to have to undergo the Official Macross Hazing Ritual, which involves watching all of Macross 7 in one 27-hour marathon session (no bathroom breaks - a cup will be provided for urination purposes), followed immediately by having to sing the entire "Nyan-Nyan Service Medley (Special Edition)" in front of a huge crowd of drunk, rowdy bikers. Then you have to listen to English Fire!! and the Leon/Grace duet of "Zero-G Love" 36 times in a row. And then we'll ask you to explain the end of Macross Zero in twenty seconds or less.

Then, and ONLY then, can you consider yourself a true Macross Purist.

dammit...

JasonC wrote:

Hahaha, why even give him any credit for determining anything? If he spoke with any form of intelligence, then I'd be more inclined to debate it, but you're talking about someone who hasn't been able to hold much of an argument for the better part of his "career" in Robotech. It's just a boy who's still trying to fight a lost war, and in doing so, is isolating his franchise even more, leaving it for only the most obscure of fanatics.

I say, let him be, and leave him to destroy his own franchise and cause. To question another's fandom is one thing. To dictate who is and isn't a fan is simply ignorant, and stupid, and fits right into lil dougie's way of thinking.

Oh, of course... It's a complete joke, and for me to say that is being extremely polite.

In all honesty, though, I'm absolving myself of the crap. With work picking upfor me, the sensitive nature of my work (School Bus Driver), and the overload status of my BS meter, lately, I'm dropping the RT drama like a plagued rat.

It's no longer worth my time, and I'm not the type of person who'll self-induce an ulcer just to sing the praises of an animated show. I like it, but not THAT much...

Gubaba wrote:

I dunno...do you like naked 12-year-old girls? 'Cause it seems that there's something in the Macross Purist Rulebook about that.

No, but I do like Sheryl Nome in a wicked-bunny outfit... does that count?

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Well, according to this, I'm not a Robotech fan, any more.

http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkC...0695&cmd=tc

It seems that, according to the world's Number One Robtech Fan, I don't meet the minimum requirements to be in the elite clique that all of us aspire to.

I've been kicked out!

What, you ask, would be my response to this startling, earth-shattering revelation? Well, I suppose I could bawl my eyes out, crying over lost protoculture, or I could engage in rightous, indignant rage over being targeted by this idiot... Hell, I could even entertain the idea of showing up on his podcast, and troll his a$$ all over the place.

But... None of these apply.

Since my RL job has gotten more active (Yeah! I'm getting descent hours, now!), and I've sworn off the RT internet drama, I really have no reaction whatsoever.

So, with this being said, I have a question. Any room for an exiled former RT fan in the Macross Purist camp?

That's LAI. SMS was just hired to test them.

You're right, of course. Thanks!

Still, the point stands.

That's one way of looking at it.

The way I see it is that after Space War I, the Destroids Tomahawk, Phalanx and Spartan were found to be extremely lacking in the necessary offensive and defensive capabilities, not to mention mobility to combat Zentran/Meltran mecha on a 1/1 basis, which could explain why we have not seen any futher development of those models (non-canon Macross II not withstanding). The Destroid monster while more than adequate in offensive capabilty was found lacking in mobility, hence the developemont of the more mobile and self-transporting Konig Monster.

Whereas perhaps the Cheyenne was found to be more capable and suitable for further development than the original Destroids, hence the Cheyenne II in Macross Frontier. Whereas the original Tomahawk , Phalanx and Spartan are seen relegated to construction mecha duties and then to nothing more than amusement park attractions by 2045 in Macross 7.

While the Cheyenne II is superficially similar to the original Cheyenne, it seems to offer enhanced capabilites over the original SDFM Destoids and the original Macross Zero Cheyenne. Note the twin heavy duty beam weapons, two heavy-caliber gunpod class gattling type guns, and larger twin missile launchers, not to mention the obvious improved mobility over the SDFM class destroids offered by the wheeled feet.

As mentioned, while superficially similar in outward apearance, the Cheyenne II could likely have far improved armor weapons, sensors, mobility etc than the original SDFM Destroids or the first mark Cheyenne from Macross Zero.

It could be said that an M4 Sherman and MI Abrams are superficially similar. Both are tanks, have tracks, a turret and a main gun, but are worlds apart in terms of capability.

Just a counterpoint to those that automatically write off the Cheyenne II without a second thought.

While not that relevant to the discussion at hand, it should be at least noted that the Cheyenne and Cheyenne II in the PSP Macross Ultimate Frontier game are far more versatile and comabt effective than the Tomahawk, Spartan and Phalanx (at least I find them so).

Graham

Graham, if I may be so bold, your points don't pass the smell test...

SMS was shown to be a developer of weapons systems, and they were, essentially, feild testing the VF-25 airframe and systems, based on their own YF-24 test platform. Does it make sense, then, for SMS to feild a ground-combat mecha that is essentially a throw-back, while working with the proposed replacement for the VF-171?

I can't buy it, to be honest.

It would be tantamount to a current-day aircraft carrier feilding a fleet of JSF fighters, and their marine contingent being relegated to older M-48 or M-60 tanks, to be used for shore landings and such, and also having nothing more that 40mm Bofors guns for air defense in the age of self-guided missiles and CIWS-type defense platforms.

Okay, have I gone COMPLETELY insane or did PTH just acknowledge that I'm the lesser of two evils? Maybe that's what did him in... the realization that I'm NOT the source of all worldly evils (but I try DAMN hard to be!)

He just doesn't know you like we do....

In all seriousness, though, I'm just as flabbergasted by this turn of events, as well.

Immagine my surprise when to my disbelieving eyes should appear a note of gratitude for some assistance Seto and I gave him!

See for yourself!

http://www.robotechx.com/forums/32-macross...ntier.html#9386

Whoa!

background designs should stay in the background

this is stupid and unrealistic. it doesn't even guarantee quality

just go watch dougram if you want that stuff

Uh, excuse me... I do believe the original poster asked what we'd like to see, and I answered his question...

Let me look it up...

If it happened, what would you like to see differently? Stay the same? Which characters would you keep, modify, or just eliminate completely like poor Nanase.

So, there you go....