Duke Togo

You forgot Grace. But is she really dead?

Yes, you are right. Multiple screen shots and over 20 years of Macross canon totally fail in the face of Zinjo's opinion! We're beating a dead horse here. This was amusing during the multiple rain delays last night, but this discussion has long since lost its appeal. Wake me back up when the Chronicle is finished and the Compendium is updated.

I agree. Here we have this disabled Zentradi (war veteran?) who has his own Macross, his own Skull Squadron, and dreams of seeing Minmay.

Are we just going to ignore his line of dialog in episode 24, where he says, "Soon... Soon I'll be able to meet you"?

Well, that still leaves us with the big question of why they went from nicey-nice with Nome and the 117th fleet to destroy all humans?

"Super Dimension Fortress" does not sound like a fleet configuration to me. Unless we want to start playing engrish games.

Ah yes, but that doesn't explain how she turned the Vajra against the humans. In one flashback, Brera seems to imply that Ranka caused the attack.

Have you seen DYRL or Plus? Or Zero, for that matter?

I wonder why they give some names and not to others. Its very inconsistent.

Global-04 LOL

You know, the Global cannot be the Macross-04, because that designation belongs to the New Macross Class vessels. I don't know why I didn't remember that.

So the others are just an error in the animation?

Is this in the anime, because I don't remember it? I don't know how I missed this.

Because the plot is silly and the characters are kinda lame. But the emulators idea is kinda cool, and there are some pretty sweet mecha designs to be seen. All that said, Kawamori has done him damnedest to work II concepts into the franchise.

Ugh, I don't want a retelling. They cut out so much of the story as it is to cram it into 25 episodes. You cut anything more, and its just a mecha-fest.

Like what has been canon for over 2 decades.

Back in 1997, maybe...

Whatever you want to believe, Zin. Nevermind it actually says "Super Dimension Fortress Megaroad-0X". Never let the facts get in the way of Zin!

Let me quote you: "At several different points in Entertainment Bible, the Mardook are referred to as the creators of the Zentradi." From this thread.

This thread is full of fail.

5 points for effort!

Uh, no. The SDF-003 is its designation.

Have you seen Eureka Seven?

See, I really like this idea. Adds some mythology to the Protoculture.

They may have, but they also may have simply rekindled their friendship. There really isn't exactly alot of romance between them in Plus.