Omegablue Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 Well, I finally got mine. It's truely awesome, I love it. Although I have encountered a couple of issues... First, why is there knurling on the pins of the arms hinges? There already was one stress mark clearly visible as I lifted the legs to transform it for the first time. I haven't removed the pins, but that slightly knurling gap is present... Secondly, the wings in plane mode don't slightly halt at that slight angle when opening them. They seem slightly loose. Still, I adore it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 I looked at mine for gnurling when I did my review and didn't see any. I wonder if you just have the misfortune of getting a poorly put together shoulder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegablue Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 I looked at mine for gnurling when I did my review and didn't see any. I wonder if you just have the misfortune of getting a poorly put together shoulder. Probably then... How are your wings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 The toy is put away so I can't double-check but I didn't note anything peculiar about the wings when I was doing my review. I was also comparing the toy to my Focker so it's probably safe to say that it has the same tightness/looseness as my other 1/60V2s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miriya Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Anyone has more information on this plain VF-1S? I LOVE THIS WHITE SCHEME. I hope they have matching fast packs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizman Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Possibly the VF-X prototype fighter http://www.new-un-spacy.com/sdfmacross/vf-x.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swoosh Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 For customization? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vi-RS Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 For customization? where did u find that image? It's losing resolution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobizon Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 (edited) Possibly the VF-X prototype fighter http://www.new-un-spacy.com/sdfmacross/vf-x.htm Nope, the VF-X it's a non-variable fighter Edited October 24, 2009 by Lobizon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXO Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Wow, I suggested a blank VF-1 since the 1/48s were ending... this would be awesome! IF! that's what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueMax Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 blank valk! great for customizers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vi-RS Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 The blank valkyrie seems like taken by official Yamato, it'd be great if this is what is gonna be released, great for customization and I have couple in my list already.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 It's probably the only Yamato valk Yamato themselves own. You just found the "pre-photo shop color added" pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honkhet Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 lol... that just might be true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vi-RS Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 duh......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXO Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 it's still a good idea. After they milk the mold , even with their custom schemes people will always have their own in mind. I wish they did it to the 1/48s also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excillon Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 I wish they would do it, it'd be the best idea they've had in a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vi-RS Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 There are still lots of scheme that yamato missed, like the angel birds, dyrl CF 1A, and some custom paint schemes that they had in 1/48.... I wish they will them out soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derex3592 Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 There are still lots of scheme that yamato missed, like the angel birds, dyrl CF 1A, and some custom paint schemes that they had in 1/48.... I wish they will them out soon. AGREED!!! Where's my Alaska Base Green Valk Yamato??????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miriya Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 This blank one will be good for those who want to make a custom Minmei guard too. I still have hopes of Yamato making both of those (with fast packs) still though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vi-RS Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Got the low viz vf-1s today, everthing is great. Yamato has eliminated the window box and seal the box with tape as well. I guess they are cutting cost with the new box layout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javabean Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 There are still lots of scheme that yamato missed, like the angel birds, dyrl CF 1A, and some custom paint schemes that they had in 1/48.... I wish they will them out soon. Not forgeting TV VF-1S Roy Focker! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 If they do do an all white valk, I think they should get hardcore about it. They should make it a web exclusive (hear me out). The item should cost about 50% of a normal valk, should come only partially assembled like a model kit, should have an unpainted pilot figure and gun, and should be shipped in a plain brown box, as small as possible, with paper instructions in Japanese about how to finish constructing the toy. The toy should come shipped with a TV VF-1A head with alternate heads and accessories also available through the Yamato website. Yamato should make a section of their website into the Macross Factory where you could buy all the items customizers could want. You want to buy 12 unpainted VF-1S heads? Sure. You want a bag full of different colored visors for those heads? That should be available to. Am I dreaming a bit too much? Yeah, probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ff95gj Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 If they do do an all white valk, I think they should get hardcore about it. They should make it a web exclusive (hear me out). The item should cost about 50% of a normal valk, should come only partially assembled like a model kit, should have an unpainted pilot figure and gun, and should be shipped in a plain brown box, as small as possible, with paper instructions in Japanese about how to finish constructing the toy. The toy should come shipped with a TV VF-1A head with alternate heads and accessories also available through the Yamato website. Yamato should make a section of their website into the Macross Factory where you could buy all the items customizers could want. You want to buy 12 unpainted VF-1S heads? Sure. You want a bag full of different colored visors for those heads? That should be available to. Am I dreaming a bit too much? Yeah, probably. What's the good with it to make it web exclusive???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 because it wouldn't work as a retail package. I can't imagine stores carrying incomplete toys in plain brown boxes right next to their normal toys at twice the cost... except maybe your Hobbylink Japans of the world. Also, if you introduce a middle man you introduce one more person who is going to want a take on the profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruskiiVFaussie Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 (edited) Wow, I suggested a blank VF-1 since the 1/48s were ending... this would be awesome! IF! that's what it is. Me too, hell with my craptastic skills i could evn have a go at customizing for the fact i don't need to paint over a colour other than valk white! :edited: They need to do VT and VE as well, no to mention Strike Packs. This can be a whole new can of worms for Yamato, their whole 1/60 range in "all-white". Edited October 25, 2009 by ruskiiVFaussie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkEyes Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Hi guys really like this VF-1S LV, but what about shoulders? how many of you have stress marks in the shoulders? Im wondering on getting this one or VF-25F Alto. Thanks a lot for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ff95gj Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 because it wouldn't work as a retail package. I can't imagine stores carrying incomplete toys in plain brown boxes right next to their normal toys at twice the cost... except maybe your Hobbylink Japans of the world. Also, if you introduce a middle man you introduce one more person who is going to want a take on the profit. I don't understand... Instead of a middleman which works in large quantity (distributor/retailor) and cheaper overhead/item, you introduce a middleman which works in smaller quantity (order from web and forward it to you) and charge for a crazy amount. And there is no competition - shops, Japan or other regions, do not sell at the MSRP. Often there is a discount on top of the MSRP in Japan, and it's more volatile outside Jap. If it's a web exclusive, the one company control all the supplies and thus the price. It doesn't have to be in plain brown box, and last time I've heard it's cheaper than the standard valks. Definitely not at twice the cost! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Train Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Transcript from Yamato Products Development Board Meeting: Engineer A: Ok, guys I have the greatest idea for the milk-molding strategy. Engineer B: Ok.... ? Engineer A: Ok, ready! This is going to be epic! Are you REALLY READY! Engineer C: Yeah! Enough with the suspense! Engineer A: Alright, this is what I think.......... LET's MAKE AN ALL WHITE VF-1! /crickets /slowclap Kool-Aid Man: OH YEAH! (breaks through the wall) EngineerB: OMG! GIVE THAT MAN A PROMOTION!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Save Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Transcript from Yamato Products Development Board Meeting: Engineer A: Ok, guys I have the greatest idea for the milk-molding strategy. Engineer B: Ok.... ? Engineer A: Ok, ready! This is going to be epic! Are you REALLY READY! Engineer C: Yeah! Enough with the suspense! Engineer A: Alright, this is what I think.......... LET's MAKE AN ALL WHITE VF-1! /crickets /slowclap Kool-Aid Man: OH YEAH! (breaks through the wall) EngineerB: OMG! GIVE THAT MAN A PROMOTION!!! OK that even made me bust out laughing. :lol: :lol: What's really funny is that I was at the Yamato office on Friday and they had put up a whole new entrance wall, guess that's where the Kool-Aid Man busted in from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 I don't understand... Instead of a middleman which works in large quantity (distributor/retailor) and cheaper overhead/item, you introduce a middleman which works in smaller quantity (order from web and forward it to you) and charge for a crazy amount. And there is no competition - shops, Japan or other regions, do not sell at the MSRP. Often there is a discount on top of the MSRP in Japan, and it's more volatile outside Jap. If it's a web exclusive, the one company control all the supplies and thus the price. It doesn't have to be in plain brown box, and last time I've heard it's cheaper than the standard valks. Definitely not at twice the cost! I don't get what middleman I'm introducing? Yamato's website is not a middleman, it's their direct sales channel. I'm going to keep this all in the context of my original suggestion which I'm not sure you're doing. Obviously it doesn't HAVE to be in a brown box... it doesn't HAVE to be made in any way. We're also talking about a toy that would NEVER EVER IN A MILLION YEARS succeed in large quantities. A partially assembled all blank valk isn't the kind of thing that is going to fly off the shelves... it's something a very tiny fraction of the hobby would want for customizing. Most customizers probably wouldn't even be interested since they're usually also modelers. Soooo... Yamato could offer this tiny niche product to retailers and would likely be snubbed by the vast majority of them. "How many orders do you want of a partially assembled, no frills quasi-toy packaged in a plain brown box and aimed at .05% of the fandom? Each case comes with at least six." By keeping it a web exclusive they get to roll out tiny production runs at a time, throw them in the cheapest box possible, and dictate the price that that .05% is going to have to pay. Obviously they're competing with their already made toys that regular retailers are selling so the price they could charge would be extremely limited. The can't charge you $90 for a partially assembled toy when you can buy the fully assembled and painted toy for the same thing. The other option is to make it a regular release, completely finish it, paint the pilot, give it a nice box, and charge you the same MSRP as every other toy but make it readily available. It would probably sell pretty terribly and the customizers will have spent more money just to tear the toy apart anyway. Granted, that's the much more likely way it will go. I think the problem here is that you think a web exclusive HAS to cost YOU more money (and if you live outside of Japan, you may be right) but if you look at it from Yamato's perspective, they could easily charge much less for their Japanese customers and cut out middlemen entirely on a product that with middlemen likely is an immediate failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXO Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 lol. you guys are arguing how to sell it already? What MW won't argue. All I said it that it would be a nice option AFTER they are done milking the mold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ff95gj Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 I don't get what middleman I'm introducing? Yamato's website is not a middleman, it's their direct sales channel. The problem is... The Yamato web site only sells inside Japan. So the new middlemen are the people who get the goods in Japan and ship to overseas. Just like the Overdrive and HLJ now... And we know they charge more for web exclusive items. P.S. We are not arguing, really! Just clarifying thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueMax Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 (edited) The problem is... The Yamato web site only sells inside Japan. So the new middlemen are the people who get the goods in Japan and ship to overseas. Just like the Overdrive and HLJ now... And we know they charge more for web exclusive items. P.S. We are not arguing, really! Just clarifying thoughts. I agree, Macross webshop exclusives normally are not at all beneficial to fans outside of Japan. Basically Yamato is charging full MSRP for webshop patrons. For us overseas buyers, we have to rely on 3rd parties to get them for us (HLJ, overdrive or otherwise). They get charged MSRP just like anyother buyer nad they will re-sell to us with a considerable mark-up or convenience fee(understandable since they have to stay in business).We have seen that from all the webshop exclusives so far, and the general conclusion is web exclusives do not benefit non-japanese fans. Edited October 26, 2009 by BlueMax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 I understand the gripe with the common website exclusive. If it's a product that could be sold successfully through retail channels then making it a website exclusive does seem like a money grab when the manufacturer goes the direct sales route. It makes matters much worse for people outside of Japan because they then pay the mark-up and two shipping fees. The only reason I would argue FOR the website exclusive on the unfinished pure white valk is because I can't see it ever being a successful toy through standard retail channels. Retailers wouldn't want to stock this model-like toy (outside of the mega model/toy retailers) and as such the orders to Yamato would be tiny. If Yamato gets rid of those retailers and keeps the mark-up themselves then they can theoretically stay profitable while producing roughly HALF the number of units through the exclusive channel. Since I don't live in Japan the exclusive channel would only benefit me in that I would rather see this happen and be an exclusive (even if after 'finders fees' the toy costs about the same as a finished VF-1 for non-residents) then not be made at all. Again, Yamato could complete the toy, put it in a fancy box, and charge full MSRP. Price-wise you'd definitely have to pay full MSRP and then take the toy apart. It's kind of a six of one, half a dozen of the other argument with me saying that I just think in the six of one approach there's more likelihood of it actually happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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