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I really like the look of the Sentinel stuff, it's pretty darn perfect IMHO.  Knowing Sentinel, they would engineer the crapola out of a TLEAD, even incorporating the I believe only once ever seen on screen small passenger compartment that a couple of characters were hitching a ride in at one point...then tell us the price would be $450ish

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Eh, give Toynami credit for taking a shot at a new-fangled design.

They made a working cockpit and included a pilot that still scaled correctly with their Alpha (looking at you CMs Legioss and Tread!).

The cockpit/chest design is not the most elegant of solutions, but they made up for it with the poop-ton of rock-solid, ratcheted joints all over the place.

I’ll always have a soft spot for Toynami’s big burly bastard Beta.

But I’m curious to see what 10+ years of advancements can improve upon a Tread/Beta toy.  Now that I have a Sentinel Legioss in hand, I’m wondering if Sentinel will design a slide-in/slide-out Tread cockpit that gets covered up in solider and fighter combo by more accurate chest plate.

I don’t think a variation on Toynami’s fold down method will work with Sentinel’s Legioss design.  But the fact that the Legioss feet are so compact already should allow Sentinel to make the Tread’s bomber mode less gappy than Toynami’s version.

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16 hours ago, Shawn said:

Anyone know if the upcoming Mospeada art book is going to have anything new?
https://www.amazon.com/Robotech-Visual-Archive-Genesis-MOSPEADA/dp/1772940259

I haven't heard anything one way or the other, but assume there won't be anything new, unless they add some of their own artwork which will be... unlikely to be anything special.

 

Still, the completist in me has it on preorder.

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23 hours ago, Glasswave said:

Woah Thanks for the link!

I did a triple take when i saw the Zillion Tri-Charger !!!

I'm lucky enough to have the 1987 Sega Tri-charger toy, But o m g  this prototype is blowing my mind! A true "unicorn" dream Toy imho

*Anyone have any info on this*?

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I feel very fortunate to have two of the Sega Tri-Chargers (though no RidingScepter, since the only ones I found were so overpriced, and in such terrible shape, that I just couldn't bring myself to buy them).

While I truly love those toys, it's more the idea behind them than the execution.

I really hope this new one comes to fruition, and at a decent scale for display.

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8 hours ago, RavenHawk said:

I feel very fortunate to have two of the Sega Tri-Chargers (though no RidingScepter, since the only ones I found were so overpriced, and in such terrible shape, that I just couldn't bring myself to buy them).

While I truly love those toys, it's more the idea behind them than the execution.

I really hope this new one comes to fruition, and at a decent scale for display.

 Indeed, I totally agree in regards to the concept vs. execution. The toy itself is quite a strange beast(the front wheel for example)..yet I still find to be one of my favorites!

I mean, a legendary video game company makes a Aramaki ride-armor toy...whats not to love?

P.s. Good luck with the Scepter + fingers crossed on the new Tri-Charger!! *I think CM's was planning one that never happened.

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On 2/9/2021 at 1:47 AM, Glasswave said:

 Indeed, I totally agree in regards to the concept vs. execution. The toy itself is quite a strange beast(the front wheel for example)..yet I still find to be one of my favorites!

I mean, a legendary video game company makes a Aramaki ride-armor toy...whats not to love?

P.s. Good luck with the Scepter + fingers crossed on the new Tri-Charger!! *I think CM's was planning one that never happened.

From what I remember, there was a sort of blank profile pic of the Tri-Charger that CM's was supposedly working on. I was really looking forward to it, since I was one of the few that actually liked the CM's ride armors, and was excited to have a Tri-Charger at the same scale to display with it. I keep all of my in-scale Aramaki stuff (MOSPEADA and BGC) displayed together.

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On 2/3/2021 at 4:56 PM, jenius said:

In don't think BBTS will have these until April.

My MB Freedom in stock notification just arrived which was delayed for 3mos... your probably not far off on the April date :( 

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Nice. :good:

It still trips me out that Sentinel makes it so that the yellow parts on the sides act as the “eyes” for the Legioss.

So used to the front blue being a visor or eyes on the Zeta.

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23 minutes ago, Mog said:

Nice. :good:

It still trips me out that Sentinel makes it so that the yellow parts on the sides act as the “eyes” for the Legioss.

So used to the front blue being a visor or eyes on the Zeta.

Don't see any reason it can't be a bit of both really.  Given the use of the yellow bits elsewhere, I'd think the ones on the head might be meant to be spotlights.

Either way, it really gives the Zeta a striking visage.  I love the head design, even with the antenna being annoying for fighter mode.

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20 hours ago, no3Ljm said:

^ Doki doki :wub: 

 

Thank you @no3Ljm!

 

20 hours ago, Mog said:

Nice. :good:

It still trips me out that Sentinel makes it so that the yellow parts on the sides act as the “eyes” for the Legioss.

So used to the front blue being a visor or eyes on the Zeta.

Thank you @Mog!

 

19 hours ago, Chronocidal said:

Don't see any reason it can't be a bit of both really.  Given the use of the yellow bits elsewhere, I'd think the ones on the head might be meant to be spotlights.

Either way, it really gives the Zeta a striking visage.  I love the head design, even with the antenna being annoying for fighter mode.

@Chronocidal, I kept bumping the antenna while handing in fighter mode, then having to set back in place. :lol:

 

Zeta and Eta

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On 2/13/2021 at 5:36 AM, Saburo said:

Houquet's Legioss AFC-01Z.  The Legioss looks good in red. :D

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Really excellent pics! The way the lighting sweeps over the cockpit somehow gives it a nice dynamism.. :wub::good:

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6 hours ago, MKT said:

 

Really excellent pics! The way the lighting sweeps over the cockpit somehow gives it a nice dynamism.. :wub::good:

Thank you @MKT I appreciate it. :)  There are times when I am readjusting the camera to get the light just right or to get a clear shot of the pilot figure and then there the times when its "Whatever..." :lol:

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Not sure if this should go here or the plastic model posts, since it's Mospeada and not Macross..

Will happily move if it's the wrong spot. So I'm doing this thing with a 1/15 aoshima Yellow  ride armor kit. I got one of those Star wars non-scale Finn figures to be a donor body. Because it's body was roughly 1/15th even though it had a giant head. Doing some work with epoxy putty to create proper shoulders and upper leg armor. That whole squarish middle place between the arms is going to be hidden, so it's not especially pretty. Progress coming along..

 

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8 hours ago, lavinrac said:

The fun ones is I have the Bartley in 1/15 too and I have no idea what kind of figure to source for it!

 

Funny you should mention it...found this pic of someone using a AM Driver figure for the 1/15 Bartley.

I must admit it's very tempting!

(* The AM Driver "Moto-Bisar" bike has a very Mospeada like design)

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7 hours ago, Glasswave said:

Funny you should mention it...found this pic of someone using a AM Driver figure for the 1/15 Bartley.

I must admit it's very tempting!

(* The AM Driver "Moto-Bisar" bike has a very Mospeada like design)

 

Thats gorgeous!  however for my project I need a smaller figure if that is as how it looks in the photo. The legs look way too long and to result in a very stylized version of the Bartley/Hoquet... to match and sit right next to my Yellow/Blowsperior I need a smaller, more human proportion fig. I an contemplating the bandai gundam fumina hoshino kit, but I am waiting for someone to get back to me about its exact height. Don't want to get it only to find it too tall ane end up building a weird 'waifu' kit (to each there own but im not into it. esp considering those are sposed to be high school kids in Build fighters!!!) For the Bartley I'd have to leave the oversized chest piece off too!

 

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Thanks for posting this.

Most reviews back in the day called the Evolution Toy version crap.  But it was nice to see exactly WHY in jenius’ comparison.

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I sold off all my ET Legioss, when I got them back out of the box I looked at the legs in fighter mode and said "this is crap".  Its crap for other reasons, but especially for that reason.

They could have solved the aesthetic issue by simply making the wings bigger (and adding a mechanism to collapse them to compensate).

Happy to have better representations of the Legioss.

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One of these days I'm going to take a crack at re-designing the Legioss into something that gives it a scale closer to the VF-1, stretching the proportions out to something closer to an F-18, and shrinking the cockpit relative to the rest of the design.  It would probably be a lot more lanky, but I think with enough hidden collapsing mechanisms, you could still pull off a fairly chunky soldier mode.

Mechanically speaking, the Legioss is almost like a mechanical mashup between the VF-1 and VF-19, with the way the legs, arms, and head are stowed.  The big difference is the way the intakes aren't directly connected to the legs, and form the torso.

This one really did finally nail the proportions though.  It's the first time I actually find the Legioss fighter an attractive design that doesn't look like a giant pair of legs dangling under a tiny jet. :lol: 

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While the Evolution legioss is a big floppy mess, I didn't mind grabbing a dark legioss on the cheap to go with my gakken 1/35s. I do think it is funny that the 1/35 Evolution mini ride armor and pilots are the same or smaller than the 1/48 Sentinels.

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See, I think if I can get the torso and wings to fold up well, this is what I'd like to aim for.  It would absolutely be a lot lankier soldier, but the hardest part is working out a way to stow the huge wings.  Part of the reason the original Legioss works is because it's such a stumpy robot, and the wings are tiny compared with the body, so they fit easily behind it.  Get them this big, and they're going to need more folds to collapse down enough.

I'm thinking I might dig into my LEGO collection and see if I can't Kawamori the heck out of it.  If anything, I'm actually considering giving it a lot more Macross-ish design cues and styling to see if I can't make it look like a more logical progression from the VF-1.

Edit: Built out the model a little with rough shapes, so I might have to see how it winds up proportioned.  Wings are still huge.  Biggest thing I really have always wanted to work into the design was some way to streamline the back of the cockpit, because it just ends so abruptly behind the canopy.  You can also make the arms a lot longer in fighter mode if you give it VF-1 style elbow streamlining, and don't require them to extend for soldier.  Maybe even let the tails fold onto the outside of the arm as a shield, instead of tucking in, which tends to make the tails look extremely skinny and undersized for the design.

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1 hour ago, roboemo said:

Thanks for that link. But since it's a Robotech artbook, does that mean it will just be existing artworks with most we're already seen from the original creators? Or screenshots from each episodes and its synopsis? Plus probably artworks from Tommy Yune? Just asking coz I don't own any Robotech books from before. And I just thought that there will be a new artbook from Tatsunoko.

 

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8 minutes ago, no3Ljm said:

Thanks for that link. But since it's a Robotech artbook, does that mean it will just be existing artworks with most we're already seen from the original creators? Or screenshots from each episodes and its synopsis? Plus probably artworks from Tommy Yune? Just asking coz I don't own any Robotech books from before. And I just thought that there will be a new artbook from Tatsunoko.

 

Hmmm, never notice that, just found it on an old post not too long ago (week or days agao).

But the way it was written seems to be more focused on Mospeada.

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