Xigfrid Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) Hi guys, I have been busy last days (couple months... in fact) with a very challenging design from Macross Delta: the VF-9, aka Cutlass. This is a small fighter designed to support the VF-1 in mission. Guess what ? It is even shorter than a VF-1. I tried my best to make a great looking transforming toy in all three modes for the 1:60 scale, printable in WSF (SLS nylon powder). So far, I am pretty confident that I will soon have something printable. The battroid mode should have sufficient articulation to compare with an Arcadia VF-1, I just hope all the joints will be tight enough. Assembly Manual is now available here SEPTEMBER 2108 UPDATE Transformation video is ready at youtube: https://youtu.be/DNtGSKQydVo Link to the upcoming addons and upgrades for my VF-9: https://www.shapeways.com/shops/xigfrid3dshop?section=VF-9+addons&s=0 This section will contain the options and upgrades available for the VF-9 such as: -optional landing gears -display adpaters -Nose fins (version 3) -set of spare parts -future Gunpod AUGUST 2108 UPDATE Link to download the 3D printed parts: https://www.shapeways.com/shops/xigfrid3dshop?section=VF-9&s=0 NB: The removable Wheels, Display stand adapters are optional. The Canopy can be printed in Smooth Detail Plastic and sanded to be so-so clear, it should be printed by a resin printer in clear resin and it will be clearer and stronger. I recommend US residents to contact EXO, member of this forum also known as Plastic Cretins on Facebook, who can print in clear resin the following parts. You can PM me for his email too. -clear Canopy for 5$ -female pilot 2$ -male pilot 2$ -battroid head 2$. For other countries you can try www.3dhubs.com. And you will need the STL 3D file of my VF-9 canopy. My absolute short list recommended tools: -Modeling Sprue cutter: cut the sprues effortlessly in seconds -Modelcraft knife equipped with a "rounded blade" (like this one) : best blade shape to remove the remaining plastic from sprues in 1 cut, instead of a lot of sanding and buffing -Pin Vise with 1mm drill bit : just to make sure that the pre-drilled holes for the screws and pins are perfectly clean. -strong, yet small screwdriver:sometimes I can use tiny places to insert the screws, so the screwdriver shaft should be 3-4mm diameter max (magnetized preferably!) -flat plier to insert the pins -6-steps nail buffer : I use this to gently remove the excess of material if some parts don't sit flush A few pictures ! Edited September 21, 2018 by Xigfrid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILKAUTICO Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 OHHH Lord!!!! please !! please if you do this with the VF-9, what would you do if you did the VA-3 ... Give the Invader a chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sumyumgoy Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Very cool, looking forward to how it turns out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILKAUTICO Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Estimated price? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xigfrid Posted May 17, 2018 Author Share Posted May 17, 2018 Considering the small size, I hope around 150$, but the there are 2 parts to be printed separately: the clear canopy and the seat+interior details. These can rise the price significantly. I will be able to tell once I begin to upload the parts at shapeways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valhary Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Xigfrid warranty I want it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkArchon3000 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 This is so exciting! This is one of my favorite valks. Please count me in as interested. You have done an amazing job with the design in all 3 modes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizman Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Oh wow, that looks great! Never thought I'd see a 1/60 VF-9, I'm glad you were crazy enough to take on the challenge . Swappable landing gear is probably fine especially given how small the VF-9 is and all the joints you need to pack inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmkjr Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 Great to see you doing something unique again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chyll2 Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 you are crazy. initial render looks good in all three modes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivorysniper Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 14 hours ago, Xigfrid said: Hi guys, I have been busy last days (couple months... in fact) with a very challenging design from Macross Delta: the VF-9, aka Cutlass. This is a small fighter designed to support the VF-1 in mission. Guess what ? It is even shorter than a VF-1. I tried my best to make a great looking transforming toy in all three modes for the 1:60 scale, printable in WSF (SLS nylon powder). So far, I am pretty confident that I will soon have something printable. 90% of the model is good to go using M1.7x6mm, M1.7x10mm screws and 1mm diameter rods. I need to refine the design of a few parts such as the Head, the right shoulder and the vertical stabilizers. I also need to decide if it can have retractable or swap-able landing gears. The battroid mode should have sufficient articulation to compare with an Arcadia VF-1, I just hope all the joints will be tight enough. A few pictures ! 5 D*mn, Xigfrid !. That's an awesome piece of VF there !. Finally somebody showed some love to those little VF-9s !. Keep'em coming! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 (edited) This thing transforms? How are you pulling off, well, everything? Edited May 18, 2018 by Mommar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Focslain Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 Well looks like I have something new to add to my growing wishlist on Shapeways. I assume you'll include a list of the needed parts for assembly (ie the screws and rods) when the model hits the store? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urashiman Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 AWESOME! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 How are the origami wings supposed to stay stable in fighter/getwalk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechaninac Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 ^ Overtech, of course... Oh, you mean the scale model... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xigfrid Posted May 18, 2018 Author Share Posted May 18, 2018 Well in fighter and gerwalk the 2 first portions of the wings are self sustained (as described in the line art) and the last portion is less critical and should be easily handle with a simple pin The wing design is not finalized yet, because I keep it for the last moment. My favorite solution would be using magnets for fighter and battroid modes but I have a few alternatives such as using pins with an elastic or copper wires. But i am very confident that it will be easy to have them straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 That's awesome, Xigfrid! Looking forward to see your walkthrough on building this. Followed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechaninac Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 (edited) Small Neodynium magnets, strategically placed and properly aligned would be an ideal solution to provide strong and stable, yet unobtrusive, locking for folding components; the super strong types could even be mounted sandwiched inside parts so they are completely hidden behind a shell's inner surface and still do the job. Molded pegs or tabs would work but be prone to wear and breakage if small enough to be inoffensive, or grossly obvious in order to be effective. Metal pins should work just fine strength-wise but elastic bands can undergo all manner of unwanted deterioration and copper wires can break if flexed one too may times. By the way, mad props for tackling such a project and achieving such beautiful results. Edited May 18, 2018 by mechaninac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valhary Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Agree Neodymium magnets is simple, right and elegant solution Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamChris Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Awesome!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urashiman Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 I've been working on something similar some time ago. After fixing my Papercraft VF-9 I thought about doing a high detailed model in 3D to send to Shapeways and have it printed. I had the HQ wings done and was working to get the mainframe done, but you know - I don't have much time, so this ended up in development hell. Maybe I have to take it up again. My idea was to have it in fighter mode in 1/72 to stand with my Hasegawa models. @Xigfrid: I am thrilled to see your model printed and in action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xigfrid Posted May 20, 2018 Author Share Posted May 20, 2018 @Urashiman I am glad to meet you because I have been using your paper model a lot for the panel lines. I have also tried to use your model (orthogonal projections) as reference because it was almost identical to the latest line art but it didn’t really took into consideration that the VF-9 is a very small plane so even if the true line art is very streamlined, I couldn’t use it to scale well with an Arcadia VF-1. And from there I had to trick the dimensions even further to obtain a good looking battroid you HD model looks really good! I am sure if you finish it and print it in FUD (High détail plastic) it will look incredible together with an Hasegawa VF-1, keep the hard work if you can afford it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urashiman Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Xigfrid said: @Urashiman I am glad to meet you because I have been using your paper model a lot for the panel lines. I have also tried to use your model (orthogonal projections) as reference because it was almost identical to the latest line art but it didn’t really took into consideration that the VF-9 is a very small plane so even if the true line art is very streamlined, I couldn’t use it to scale well with an Arcadia VF-1. And from there I had to trick the dimensions even further to obtain a good looking battroid you HD model looks really good! I am sure if you finish it and print it in FUD (High détail plastic) it will look incredible together with an Hasegawa VF-1, keep the hard work if you can afford it. Oh, nice to hear that people still use my stuff. Yeah, the VF-9 is really small, even smaller than the VF-1. Doing it in 1/48 would be better, so the fine structures don't break so fast. Printing in the normal "Strong and flexible" might end up in fragile parts ... You are talking about the Frosted Ultra Detail? I've used that once for a H0 (1:87) Tram I was printing. It is still up on shapeways I think. Actually I had the FUD in mind while designing the VF-9 High Detail model. I also had a High Detail VF-14 on my to do list, but there just isn't enough time. I probably have to take a sabbatical or something to catch up on all my crazy projects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arbit Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 (edited) Awesome!!! If it's under USD200, I'm in. Did you come up with the transformation, or did you base it on another garage kit? BTW, does the new Shapeways option to create shells (to reduce cost) work with your parts? Edited May 22, 2018 by arbit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xigfrid Posted May 22, 2018 Author Share Posted May 22, 2018 Hey arbit thanks I too hope it would be under the 150$ mark. The transformation is based on the line art, I had almost everything working as intended except for the bottom stabilizer fins that would be fixed, the hands will rotate instead of sliding out and the landing gears. I am not finished yet so I am working on small details and final design at the same time. I didn’t know there was a new “create shell tool”. Last time I tried it, it was 2 years ago and the shell would have large holes (10mm large) that couldn’t hold small parts such as fingers or landing gears parts. I need to check that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILKAUTICO Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 18 minutes ago, Xigfrid said: Hey arbit thanks I too hope it would be under the 150$ mark. The transformation is based on the line art, I had almost everything working as intended except for the bottom stabilizer fins that would be fixed, the hands will rotate instead of sliding out and the landing gears. I am not finished yet so I am working on small details and final design at the same time. I didn’t know there was a new “create shell tool”. Last time I tried it, it was 2 years ago and the shell would have large holes (10mm large) that couldn’t hold small parts such as fingers or landing gears parts. I need to check that If it happens to be for that price, include me I hope some day you do the VA-3. please! please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xigfrid Posted May 30, 2018 Author Share Posted May 30, 2018 Small updates and even more smaller details. I added 2 wing tabs, but they look meh, technically I will be using 4 magnets for a total of 2 kg (20N) strength, they should be largely enough to hold the wings closed. That's something only the prototype will be able to tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
007-vf1 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 How about printing one on 1/144? Non transformable of course Would it be possible from any of these 3D models? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urashiman Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 1 hour ago, 007-vf1 said: How about printing one on 1/144? Non transformable of course Would it be possible from any of these 3D models? yeah, but the details would be really bad... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xigfrid Posted May 31, 2018 Author Share Posted May 31, 2018 Not that bad, but I can’t really see how shapeways would accept the files as one single part to print. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanity is Optional Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 You could combine the STLs into a single file, but it'd still need a lot of gap-filling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xigfrid Posted May 31, 2018 Author Share Posted May 31, 2018 2 hours ago, Sanity is Optional said: You could combine the STLs into a single file, but it'd still need a lot of gap-filling. Haha sometime I really wish I could afford someone who would correct and gap fill my 3D sketches, I would save a lot of time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanity is Optional Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 8 hours ago, Xigfrid said: Haha sometime I really wish I could afford someone who would correct and gap fill my 3D sketches, I would save a lot of time It goes pretty fast, depending on what software you use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tage Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Xigfrid Yay! This looks amazing as per the rest of your work. Can't wait to see a print of this. Will certainly pick one (possibly two) up myself. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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