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2 minutes ago, Sanity is Optional said:

There's pretty much always isolated incidents of breakage, it's when there's trend (like the DX YF-19 hip joints) that you need to worry.

We just see more of the isolated incidents now, what with the internet.

Also the "hammer hands" factor.

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One of my DXs only came with one hand. HLJ tried to to see if replacement hand could be obtained from Bandai, but no go there. 

When you get Bandai'ed you're SOL. 

HLJ did give me a discount, so that was nice. 

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7 hours ago, no3Ljm said:

Since it's just a friendly debate. I want to ask since I didn't have any Yamato 1/48 VF-1's. When Yamato released their 1/48 VF-1's almost 20 years ago, did people already mentioned that it has overall poor quality? And did the discoloration happened immediately like Bandai's DX VF-25 v1? Bandai got released their DX VF-1 recently so comparing both companies regarding quality now wouldn't matter anymore, right?

I have to agree that's why when I read a few comparing posts I got confused a little bit since the photos posted from what I remember from the previous page is Yamato's 1/60v2.

 

My Yammie 1/48 from 20 years ago is still not yellow.  It was an engineering revolution for toys, like MP-01.  It was thing every serious collector was getting.  And no preorder madness

7 hours ago, jenius said:

People loved the 1/48 parts when they were released and they took 10 years to yellow. The reaction missiles were always a pain but at least they came in the box!

My 1/48 isn't very yellow.  It's still off white and I've had it for 20 years or whenever it came out

6 hours ago, Lolicon said:

All my comparisons are with the 1/60 VF-1 as I sold my 1/48s years ago.

I've already said the DX VF-1 is the best VF-1 toy to date, despite some flaws and steps back made by Bandai.

Would I sell all my 1/60s and replace them with the DX? Absolutely not. They're not THAT much of an improvement, they're the wrong scale next to all my other valkyries, and have too many annoying flaws.

Also, complaining about yellowing on a 10+ year old toy versus one that just came out is ridiculous. Toys and human lives don't last forever.

On the subject of floppy joints, the hips on my DXs are already getting loose. Because that's what happens when a toy is really heavy: the joints have to endure more. Fortunately, I don't use weight to determine the quality of a toy (which is why you never hear me praising the "heft"). :p

 

The hips on my DX vf-25 is getting loose even though I only display it on the stand.  I think those metal parts are too heavy and put stress on the hips.

5 hours ago, Pontus said:

I work for a company that makes specialized control interfaces/desks.  We released a high end console that everyone complained felt cheap.  So we added steel plates inside, and it was much more "professional feeling" simply because it was heavier. :fool:  If we make consoles that are powerful yet small, portable, and of eminent utility, in high end installations they will be passed up for large, heavy, all-in-one consoles because they "feel more professional," (even if they have identical function) so now we're going back to making behemoth consoles again.  Public perception is a fickle thing that has more to do with "feels" than anything else.

Oh, and don't even get me started on the soft-touch craze.  Yes, let's put the worst paint in the world in the worst place you could possibly put it (where it gets touched all the time), and where it will look like crap after the first use and peel like crazy.  Because it FEELS good and therefore somehow makes a product "professional" which gets perceived as high quality somehow... at least for the first couple of weeks.

hilarious.  Oooo it's so shiny

5 hours ago, no3Ljm said:

But the thing is I don't want to spend too much. :cray: 

Need to save just in case Bandai decides to make the Metal Build GN-Arms Type E and DXSoC Voltes V a reality. :rolleyes:

 

$2000 Sazabi to pair with that $1000 Nu Gundam

2 hours ago, Bahamutzyro said:

Your right, 20 years ago we jumped up and down for the yammies! But now as we can see they don’t age well. We shouldn’t pay 200 bucks 20 years ago for something that sits in a box n yellows.  We didn’t have anything to comp it to so we didn’t know.

i still like my stealth yammie 1/48 and it didn’t yellow, but it’s joints are loose n I transformed it once to batroid n it’s been sitting on my shelf.

My 1/48 isn't yellow, it's still off white.  The joints are still good, not loose.  For an old toy, the swing bar (most likely to be a problem for Bandai's two piece assembly) still works fine.  That's quality and time tested.  The Bandai *seems* superior for now; time will tell.  And somebody just posted pics of breakages for the DX.  My DX doesn't peg the arms securely in fighter mode even though there are pegs.

1 hour ago, Bolt said:

Lol. Dude! I think the Yammies aged just fine. Look how quickly Bandai's V1 VF-25's yellowed (ya we do have something to compare) or broke apart upon transformation. Also paying $200 bucks 20 years ago wasn't so bad considering cost, hassle and qc issues these days. Oh ya, let's not mention pre order ridiculous antics and scarcity issues.  

Am i the only one who doesn't have a Yamato yellowing Hikaru VF-1S?

Lets see how those DX's are down the road, see you in 20;)

I have a yammie VF1J off white but not yellow Hikaru too

1 hour ago, Lolicon said:

I want all my valkyries to be able to survive the millenia so that archaeologists in the distant future have pristine artifacts from our time that they can transform and whoosh around.

Hilarious.  Archaeologists saying "what is protoculture?"

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15 minutes ago, Lolicon said:

One of my DXs only came with one hand. HLJ tried to to see if replacement hand could be obtained from Bandai, but no go there. 

When you get Bandai'ed you're SOL. 

HLJ did give me a discount, so that was nice. 

Well at least HLJ was there to give you a hand on the discount. 

And while Bandai didn’t give you a replacement hand they gave you the finger instead.

Bandai’d

:p

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51 minutes ago, davidwhangchoi said:

That's horrible. Dx is fragile. 

What are you basing that assessment on? Pictures of two broken Valks? If they only made 100 of them that would be within the failure rate for most manufactured products. And that is assuming that the person who was transforming it wasn't hammer handed. There is zero evidence that the DX is fragile. If anything their is copious evidence that they're not.

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Hahaha! Read between the lines. David is just mocking Bandai. :lol: 

 

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9 minutes ago, VF-1A Cannon Fodder said:

I did.  He seems to mock a company that he keeps buying from

Umm...don't we all?:p

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35 minutes ago, VF-1A Cannon Fodder said:

I did.  He seems to mock a company that he keeps buying from

25 minutes ago, Bolt said:

Umm...don't we all?:p

Aren't we all, right? Besides, no matter how we always get Bandai'd, we still buy their stuff. Why? Because no other company is making our fix. :rolleyes:

Another example is that we make fun or get mad at NY. But yet, we always run to them if we miss getting PO's from the other stores. ^_^

 

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Lol, ya Bandai got my dead prez' with the HMR's , some VF,31's and many 3 mode 1/72's (last year alone :)).. "one way or another- I'm gonna getcha,getcha,getcha..":lol:

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2 hours ago, sqidd said:

I would love to hear what an archaeologist from 2000yrs in the futures has for a theory on what the Valks represent.

As a professionally-trained archaeologist, I can tell what the standard explanation is when we don't know an object's purpose: ritual item. Imagine an archaeologist finding a Detolf filled with these things, carefully posed and displayed, with three copies of the same variant showing a transformation sequence. Looks like a shrine and valks are our deities. Given that they're machines and people are inside of them, whole books would be written about the deep symbolism of the fusion of humans and technology, plus some ramblings about how ancient myths and legends about man transforming into animals had been updated for our era.

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Lol. Good point. I like that:good:

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38 minutes ago, no3Ljm said:

Aren't we all, right? Besides, no matter how we always get Bandai'd, we still buy their stuff. Why? Because no other company is making our fix. :rolleyes:

Metal Build's keep robbing us.  brought to many rehashes of exia. 

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5 minutes ago, davidwhangchoi said:

Metal Build's keep robbing us.  brought to many rehashes of exia. 

I like 'em robbing us. Especially with Exias. :lol:

 

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3 hours ago, Bolt said:

Am i the only one who doesn't have a Yamato yellowing Hikaru VF-1S?

Certainly not.

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Yamato's off-white plastic will always look ivory next to the blueish-grey hue of Bandai's DX, but none of my Yammies show signs of yellowing.

My vintage 1:55, on the other hand...  :(

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1 hour ago, no3Ljm said:

Another example is that we make fun or get mad at NY. But yet, we always run to them if we miss getting PO's from the other stores.

Yup. I haven’t had any real issues but recently tried to cancel an order for store credit on the SSP that I should’ve received in Dec. I got bitch slapped and told my order will arrive in April. End of discussion. And I’m sure I’ll buy from them again.

(I assumed this would be the outcome but worth the try.)

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2 hours ago, tekering said:

Certainly not.

I didn't think so. For what they were/are, Yamato was/is the shizzle.:D

Now, I've always said the DX is probably overall better engineered, quite pretty, and probably decently sturdy( not in those exact words:p) so , I'm not knocking it, I'm sure it's an awesome toy. Just putting the Yammie in perspective. And i dare say they're still relevant. For variants alone. 

2 hours ago, tekering said:

My vintage 1:55, on the other hand...  :(

 

Ooooh, that's one of those aforementioned holy relics! :lol:

I miss my 1/55 VT. But it would probably be a real hot mess by now..^_^

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3 hours ago, beatsing said:

My Yammie 1/48 from 20 years ago is still not yellow.  It was an engineering revolution for toys, like MP-01.  It was thing every serious collector was getting.  And no preorder madness

My 1/48 isn't very yellow.  It's still off white and I've had it for 20 years or whenever it came out

Hilarious.  Archaeologists saying "what is protoculture?"

Agreed! I still think the Yamato 1/48 has the best transformation for what you get in all three modes. It’s simple but fun and quick like the OG chunky but looks way better. Mine aren’t yellowed either. 

1 hour ago, Anasazi37 said:

As a professionally-trained archaeologist, I can tell what the standard explanation is when we don't know an object's purpose: ritual item. Imagine an archaeologist finding a Detolf filled with these things, carefully posed and displayed, with three copies of the same variant showing a transformation sequence. Looks like a shrine and valks are our deities. Given that they're machines and people are inside of them, whole books would be written about the deep symbolism of the fusion of humans and technology, plus some ramblings about how ancient myths and legends about man transforming into animals had been updated for our era.

Haha, I like this!

1 hour ago, no3Ljm said:

Aren't we all, right? Besides, no matter how we always get Bandai'd, we still buy their stuff. Why? Because no other company is making our fix. :rolleyes:

Another example is that we make fun or get mad at NY. But yet, we always run to them if we miss getting PO's from the other stores. ^_^

 

Lol!

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2 hours ago, Anasazi37 said:

As a professionally-trained archaeologist, I can tell what the standard explanation is when we don't know an object's purpose: ritual item. Imagine an archaeologist finding a Detolf filled with these things, carefully posed and displayed, with three copies of the same variant showing a transformation sequence. Looks like a shrine and valks are our deities. Given that they're machines and people are inside of them, whole books would be written about the deep symbolism of the fusion of humans and technology, plus some ramblings about how ancient myths and legends about man transforming into animals had been updated for our era.

Or maybe a fertility idol since there's a female image (Minmay) that's associated with all these crude objects that roughly resemble the human body form (battroid), a chicken(gerwalk), and an arrow(fighter).  Notice how the "Yamato" doll has an exaggerated large phallus.  We think these were for rituals for fertility.  

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23 minutes ago, beatsing said:

Notice how the "Yamato" doll has an exaggerated large phallus.  We think these were for rituals for fertility.  

Well, ya..! Mine always were :rolleyes:

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And what are we talking about now? :unknw:

 

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Um.. the long lasting cultural impacts of the Macross VF-1... i think..

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7 hours ago, Anasazi37 said:

As a professionally-trained archaeologist, I can tell what the standard explanation is when we don't know an object's purpose: ritual item. Imagine an archaeologist finding a Detolf filled with these things, carefully posed and displayed, with three copies of the same variant showing a transformation sequence. Looks like a shrine and valks are our deities. Given that they're machines and people are inside of them, whole books would be written about the deep symbolism of the fusion of humans and technology, plus some ramblings about how ancient myths and legends about man transforming into animals had been updated for our era.

Absolutely fantastic my good man! That was exactly what I was looking for.:hi:

 

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6 hours ago, tekering said:

Certainly not.

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Yamato's off-white plastic will always look ivory next to the blueish-grey hue of Bandai's DX, but none of my Yammies show signs of yellowing.

My vintage 1:55, on the other hand...  :(

sadly yellowing.jpg

@tekering If I remember correctly yours don't see UV light at all correct?

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7 hours ago, no3Ljm said:

 

Another example is that we make fun or get mad at NY. But yet, we always run to them if we miss getting PO's from the other stores. ^_^

 

I will never ever buy from NY again.:hi:

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2 hours ago, sqidd said:

@tekering If I remember correctly yours don't see UV light at all correct?

Well, I have been known to make brief exceptions...

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...but yeah, I learned first-hand the damage the sun can do.  My vintage Valks suffered as badly as my vintage Stormtroopers did.  :vava:

Sunlight has been completely banished from my toy rooms for nearly two decades now.

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Anyone with digital calipers and a DX 1/48 hand want to give me a ball joint measurement (in millimeters)?  I used the calipers we have at the 3D printing lab here, but I'm not sure how accurate they are (the battery was dying, and there might be user error on my end).  I got between 5.1 and 5.15 millimeters, but the final product looks a little on the small side to my eye (I won't be able to tell for sure until I get home).  I'd like to do another print now, if this ball joint is in fact too small.

I'm thinking it is closer to 5.5mm around.  I know 6mm is too big, as I made one that size already.  This 5.15mm ball joint might work, but if I could get a second opinion on the measurement, that would be great.

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1 hour ago, tekering said:

Well, I have been known to make brief exceptions...

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...but yeah, I learned first-hand the damage the sun can do.  My vintage Valks suffered as badly as my vintage Stormtroopers did.  :vava:

Sunlight has been completely banished from my toy rooms for nearly two decades now.

I thought that was you that had told me about even low levels of UV being a thing. On your advice I have also banished all UV light from the toy room.:good:

It's not a "dark room" because of a little bit of light that reflects down the hallway and through the door. But it's really close.

 

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23 hours ago, tekering said:

Well, I have been known to make brief exceptions...

...but yeah, I learned first-hand the damage the sun can do.  My vintage Valks suffered as badly as my vintage Stormtroopers did.  :vava:

Sunlight has been completely banished from my toy rooms for nearly two decades now.

Unless you are using a specific light that doesn't have it, if you are lighting your toys with white light, they are still getting hit with some UV, maybe even a lot.

Warm white LEDs have very little UV, but I see a lot of displays with very blue, cool white lighting which has more.  edit thanks to @Lolicon: LEDs have almost no UV if any. And if you're using halogen, those are a significant source of UV.

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