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15 minutes ago, jvmacross said:

Remember how cool it was to see a Super Star Destroyer rusting away on Jakku?  Let’s do the same thing but replace it with the Death Star! The fans will eat that sheit up!!!!

8)

For all the good & bad of TFA, that scene was still pretty damn cool. B))

 

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4 hours ago, 505thAirborne said:

Image result for star wars trailer death star

My brain is a little slow today, just dawned on me that is what's left of the Death Star. Holy Sh-t that is awesome! 

Don't get excited about that. It's just another JJ trick of let me show you a good image to most likely hide a poor to so so movie. It's the same as the Enterprise on Earth shot in the Star Trek reboot. It would be funny if this Death Star shot isn't even in the movie. If it was just made for exciting fans in a trailer. I like Rogue One and didn't watch any of the trailers before seeing the movie. I watched the trailer afterwards and there is a cool shot of a TIE Fighter and Jyn that isn't in the movie at all.

 

I only watched this latest Star Wars trailer because I'm basically out on the series but still a bit curious what it might bring. I'm still not seeing it in theaters. And the teaser trailer didn't do much of anything to excite me. I'm just not attached to these characters after two movies. And for guessing sake, if the Emperor is involved in this then that's the second Death Star. Honestly those old clone Emperor stories from that old comic are sounding pretty good now. I remember how people thought a clone Emperor would ruin Vader's redemption in Return of the Jedi. Of course those people didn't realize that we would get the prequels, these sequels, and all kinds of other spinoff cartoons.

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5 hours ago, Kanedas Bike said:

Well I'm excited...

-b.

I guess it's just you and me, man. Save you a seat in the theater!:D

I'll try and keep my Hype from Rising though, because the trailers for TLJ looked good too. But still, Rian is not directing and I did like TFA even though it was a hybrid between a reboot and a sequel. So far, all this looks really good. And of course, Palpatine for the win! When the franchise is in danger, you call out the Emperor!:spiteful:

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I’ll go see it even if it’s bad. I’ve already seen all the others so I ain’t stopping now.

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You know both of JJ's movies are literally littered with the corpses of better films...

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Doomcock is typically... unamused...

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4 minutes ago, TehPW said:

Doomcock is typically... unamused...

To borrow a turn of phrase from Star Trek: "He is the AMBASSADOR of Unhappy."

I don't think I've ever seen that man pleased with something.

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33 minutes ago, Big s said:

I’ll go see it even if it’s bad. I’ve already seen all the others so I ain’t stopping now.

Nah, after The Last Jedi, I’m out.

I don’t hate Solo.   But I never felt the desire to watch it, even though I can easily stream it.

So, why should I give money for this film?  One of my buddies suggested hate-watching it, just so we could talk ish during the movie.  But I don’t feel like paying Disney for this specifically, especially since they haven’t done enough in the past two films to make me care for the main hero trio or the main villain.

I’d rather watch the upcoming last episodes of Clone Wars or rewatch the last half-season of Rebels.

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and then you get this...

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7 hours ago, azrael said:

Meh.

More JJ fan-wanking nostalgia crap.

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Rey rebuilt the lightsaber. *sigh* Still can't build herself her OWN lightsaber.

6 hours ago, azrael said:

Who said anything about a purple lightsaber. I'm talking about building one's OWN lightsaber. Luke built his own. EVERY FREAKIN' Jedi built their own sabers. Meanwhile Rey is rockin that same hilt for the past 3 movies. Even after she broke it. Could have taking the scraps and built a brand new personal saber....

JJabrams is nothing if not consistent in offering up the rose-tinted glasses.

I think I'd prefer if Rey just never made another lightsaber. Its absence would be a stark reminder of the ending of an era, and of Rey's incredibly unorthodox Jedi training. Besides, she's shown plenty of times she's adept with other melee weapons.

Have her use electrified whips or something, I dunno, make it glow a little to justify it being able to clash against lightsabers. People have been able to do amazing whip fights on a budget one one-thousandth of this movie's.

7 hours ago, Mommar said:

“Every generation has a legend...” and sometimes it’s just a legendary f**k up.

Does anyone else find that tag line to be unbelievably stupid? You can feel the corporate think-tank oozing from its every pore. And it's not even true. It sounds like this powerful and moving phrase on first glance, but it's little more than nonsensical gibberish when you think about it for even half a second.

"Every saga has a beginning.", from the marketing for Episode 1, that worked great. It fit the movie, it was a true statement, etc. etc.

"Every generation has a legend." Well yeah, except legends are stories that persist across many dozens if not hundreds of generations of people. What can charitably be called the "legend" of Rey's generation is largely the same as the "legend" of Luke's generation, ie the whole Jedi and Sith thing. Or is the "legend" of Rey's generation the story of the Rebels ie the events of the original trilogy? Is she going to come face to face with that "legend"? I mean she already has, so why make it seem like that will be the big point of this movie?

I rolled my eyes through the entire trailer. I just... This trailer makes the movie seem aimless. Here's hoping that's not the case and expecting it will be.

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^^There’s already a Star Wars Legends character that uses a lightwhip.

 

Besides. . .

 

 

 

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40 minutes ago, kajnrig said:

I think I'd prefer if Rey just never made another lightsaber. Its absence would be a stark reminder of the ending of an era, and of Rey's incredibly unorthodox Jedi training. Besides, she's shown plenty of times she's adept with other melee weapons.

Not gonna lie, I would be very entertained to watch Rey subvert expectations, throw away that goofy glowstick she barely knows how to use, and beat the stupid out of Kylo Ren with that big metal stick of hers.  "So uncivilized."

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Rey not having built her own lightsaber only underscores the theme of no originality and clinging to the past, Literally. 

I’ve been a hard core fan since day one and they will get my ticket money , but that’s how I feel. 

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So, paying full price at the box office is gonna encourage them to change things? :huh:

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16 minutes ago, Mog said:

^^There’s already a Star Wars Legends character that uses a lightwhip.

Oof. That sounds... unlivably unsafe.

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Besides. . .

"You don't believe in the Force, do you?"

"Oh, you mean that thing you just found out about three hours ago and are now judging me for not believing in?"

10 minutes ago, Seto Kaiba said:

Not gonna lie, I would be very entertained to watch Rey subvert expectations, throw away that goofy glowstick she barely knows how to use, and beat the stupid out of Kylo Ren with that big metal stick of hers.  "So uncivilized."

I spent both movies expecting and hoping in the back of my mind for that very thing to happen, now that I think about it.

9 minutes ago, Bolt said:

Rey not having built her own lightsaber only underscores the theme of no originality and clinging to the past, Literally. 

I’ve been a hard core fan since day one and they will get my ticket money , but that’s how I feel. 

It's especially bad given how the last movie was all about the dangers of clinging blindly to the past.

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9 minutes ago, Mog said:

So, paying full price at the box office is gonna encourage them to change things? :huh:

This is the end of the original saga. We’re way past the point of changing anything.

Enjoy the ride , as the band plays on.. 

Edited by Bolt

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9 minutes ago, Bolt said:

This is the end of the original saga. We’re way past the point of changing anything.

Enjoy the ride , as the band plays on.. 

What's the over-under on the closing credit song being Komm, süsser Tod?

 

Edited by Seto Kaiba

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Or would Dance Band on the Titanic be more appropriate? 

 

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“Women and children and Jedi first..!”

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I’m thinking play Lily Allen’s “Eff You” during the end credits.

Because both sides of the argument can use it against the other, resulting in mutually assured destruction.

And FINALLY, we will have BALANCE in the Force. :diablo::angel:

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I was very disappointed when they used the death star in TFA. I love the new characters introduced, but I guess JJ ran out of ideas when it came to the villains and how to make them scary/powerful without doing another death star. I remember his Star Trek Into Darkness. Khan was scary in Star Trek II  but was wasted in JJ's version. I am of the opinion it was a mistake to hand him Star Wars. (And I liked Star Trek/Star Trek Beyond which he didn't write...)

That said I will probably watch this to complete the trilogy. Hope it's not bad. I will be happy with an average movie (formulaic but not bad).

 

P.S. JJ's co-writer is Chris Terrio who wrote the screenplays for Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice and Justice League. Arrgh. But he also wrote for Argo... :unsure:

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11 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said:

I don't think I've ever seen that man pleased with something.

Oh, Doomcock loved Alita: Battle Angel.  His YouTube review raved about the film.  Of course, every compliment he delivers in that disingenuous voice sounds like sarcasm, so it's rather self-defeating.  <_<

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10 hours ago, kajnrig said:

Does anyone else find that tag line to be unbelievably stupid? You can feel the corporate think-tank oozing from its every pore. And it's not even true. 

It's JJ....After the backlash from TLJ, he was called back into the fold to return things back for Disney to unbelievably "safe"...

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A coworker nailed it by comparing Hollywood with politicians. Both take your money, give crap in return and don't give a damn what you think.

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43 minutes ago, jvmacross said:

It's JJ....After the backlash from TLJ, he was called back into the fold to return things back for Disney to unbelievably "safe"...

It's not hard to imagine why... the backlash against The Last Jedi and Solo: a Star Wars Story was so severe that it not only put an enormous dent in Star Wars's box office draw, it led to a Star Wars film ending as a box office flop.  Disney was having that exact same realization the Empire and First Order had when they discovered their invincible macguffin was a good deal less invinicible than previously advertised.

Any business would be playing it safe after an unexpected one-two punch like that.

Star Wars fans might not really know what they want in a sequel, but they're demonstrably happier with films and shows that take no risks and push no envelopes than they are with anything that changes the dynamic of the Star Wars setting.

 

54 minutes ago, tekering said:

Oh, Doomcock loved Alita: Battle Angel.  His YouTube review raved about the film.  Of course, every compliment he delivers in that disingenuous voice sounds like sarcasm, so it's rather self-defeating.  <_<

I see...

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Not gonna lie, I heard the official title and thought: “that sounds like Luke is getting a Viagra.” 

Then I saw the trailer immediately afterwards and... well... that black screen with the heavy breathing...

This movie may be tainted to me through no fault of its own. 

And what if it’s Ben that’s the rising Skywalker?

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On 4/12/2019 at 5:54 PM, 505thAirborne said:

Image result for star wars trailer death star

My brain is a little slow today, just dawned on me that is what's left of the Death Star. Holy Sh-t that is awesome! 

This looks like the scene where Rey & the gang go deep inside the remains of DS-II to recover the old, circular radar dish that Lando knocked-off the Falcon during his run in ROTJ.

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7 minutes ago, Sildani said:

Not gonna lie, I heard the official title and thought: “that sounds like Luke is getting a Viagra.” 

Then I saw the trailer immediately afterwards and... well... that black screen with the heavy breathing...

This movie may be tainted to me through no fault of its own. 

And what if it’s Ben that’s the rising Skywalker?

Hahahaha!

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8 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said:

...snip...

Star Wars fans might not really know what they want in a sequel, but they're demonstrably happier with films and shows that take no risks and push no envelopes than they are with anything that changes the dynamic of the Star Wars setting.

...snip...

I would actually say SW fans knew what they wanted. After RoTJ, there was an entire Expanded Universe that carried the characters along believable arcs with compelling stories and villainous villains. But then it was thrown out, and everything the fans thought they knew that happened after RoTJ went with it. So instead of Han and Leia struggling but surviving in their marriage and having several children and vaunted careers, Han is still just a smuggler who has had no growth and is still struggling to make do, and estranged from Leia who is now just a commander of a fringe force. Rather than an Imperial Remnant and a resurgent Sith, we get the oddly named First Order and the Knights of Ren who have no backstory other than a title and a nightmare scene only a few seconds long, and Snoke who has no history at all when compared to Palpatine.  And instead of Luke struggling to rebuild the Jedi, while winning and then losing Mara, he's turned into a curmudgeon who is so frozen with fear that he won't do anything when his friends and family are threatened. This is the guy who faced the evil Emperor and saved his father's immortal soul, but instead he's just turned in an old fart spending his days wandering an island and drinking blue titty-milk...

And envelopes were pushed when Mara was killed by her nephew, Han and Leia's son, and when Chewie died...

This was the fear when they threw out the EU. I remember remarking when the decision was made, as to why they wouldn't use it? The plans and back stories were there to be cherry-picked and thrown up onto the big screen in a grand cavalcade of sagas, events supported by and fondly looked upon by the fans - but instead... ugh...

That is where the worst decision of all was made.

1 hour ago, Sildani said:

Not gonna lie, I heard the official title and thought: “that sounds like Luke is getting a Viagra.” 

Then I saw the trailer immediately afterwards and... well... that black screen with the heavy breathing...

This movie may be tainted to me through no fault of its own. 

And what if it’s Ben that’s the rising Skywalker?

Sadly, I had that thought too and it was echoed by others in reviews. It's similar to the first trailer for TFA and TLJ, but yes a definite pron vibe.

As to Kylo, he's not a Skywalker who would be descended from Luke, but a Solo. He was Ben Solo. I would find it incredibly odd for him to suddenly take on the name of the man who, in his eyes, was intent on killing him. I would find it much more likely, if he ever returned to the Light, that he would instead seek to atone for killing his father by retaking his rightful name. And I really hope that Kylo dies at the end of this anyway, having fully embraced the Dark Side and never giving up on it.

I think The Rise of Skywalker refers to Rey. Not because she may still somehow be Luke's daughter, but because she may choose to take on the name in remembrance and honor to Luke. If they do keep that she has no parents and was just thrown away, then she has no last name anyway and is free to choose how she will identify herself.

If Palpatine is in this as much as I hope he is, then I hope we get a scene where she states to him, 'I am a Skywalker, like my Master before me...'

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15 minutes ago, Thom said:

This is the guy who faced the evil Emperor and saved his father's immortal soul, but instead he's just turned in an old fart spending his days wandering an island and drinking blue titty-milk..

I agree with everything you just said. (Especially aboutvthe EU books) Except it was green titty-milk:p

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6 minutes ago, Bolt said:

I agree with everything you just said. (Especially aboutvthe EU books) Except it was green titty-milk:p

:pardon:

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