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18 minutes ago, mikeszekely said:

What's up with the repeated assertions that Venom will have nothing to do with Spider-Man? I was under the impression that Sony and Marvel's deal means Spidey is part of the MCU, so Spidey can turn up in the Avengers and Iron Man could be in Homecoming, but that Spider-Man is also the cornerstone of Sony's Spidey verse and can (and maybe will) appear in stuff like Venom and Silver Sable. The only catch is that the other Spideyverse movies don't acknowledge the MCU, and the MCU films don't acknowledge the Spideyverse. In fact, I believe Tom Holland is confirmed for Venom.

 

1 minute ago, Tking22 said:

I read exactly the opposite from multiple sources quite a while ago, I believe Sony confirmed not only no MCU connections, but no Spidey, let alone no Holland Spidey. I've read nothing to let me know otherwise, let alone that Holland was confirmed for this. That was the drag from the beginning, Sony basically announced this as a random, stand alone, not connected to anything Venom film. It was also never confirmed Holland would be a part of the stand alone Sony Spiderverse films, if any even happen after this.

Pretty much the same feedback as Tking22 on whether or not Spidey will appear in Venom. 

It's supposed to be the same for the Silver Sable / Black Cat film.

Re: the actual movie and whether or not I think, or hope, that it'll be good and/or successful - "meh" best sums up my feelings. Even with Tom Hardy whose work I enjoy, at this point I really could care less about the movie. Maybe that'll change, maybe not.

-b.

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12 minutes ago, Kanedas Bike said:

 

Even with Tom Hardy whose work I enjoy, at this point I really could care less about the movie. Maybe that'll change, maybe not.

-b.

This is probably why I'll end up seeing it, I like Hardy and his work, even if the accent he came up with for this film is, unique to say the least. Spidey, let alone Holland hasn't been confirmed, best I could find was that maybe at some point in the future he possibly could be in Silver and Black, or a Venom sequel, but it's all hypotheticals and maybes based on how this film does.

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I still like the idea of Life (last year's alien horror film, no one saw it) being the low-key origin story for Venom. That movie had its flaws, but it would work spectacularly as a Venom prequel. They could even just retcon it in without any fuss.

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39 minutes ago, mikeszekely said:

And no leaked set photos?  I'm still taking this with a grain of salt, I have no idea how this wasn't more widely reported if true, I browse literally dozens of gaming and comic sites and never saw this reported once. Peter makes an appearance, no Spidey, not sure what that means or to what capacity. Still sounds like a crap show from the beginning, the whole is this in the MCU or not, and will there be Spidey or Holland or not? The concept of a semi shared universe is dumb. Either way, I'll believe it when I see it, I have zero confidence in any of this. Marvel has been completely tight-lipped about this movie, despite what reports said that Sony can use Holland, I have a hard time believing Marvel would be okay with confusing audiences with Sony's non-sensical only Spidey but not entirely MCU universe.

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I really think that venom could have had a more interesting backstory if they let the events of the next avengers film lead to the symbiote suit. Then after spidey got a sequel down the road dealing with him ditching the suit leading up to a venom temporary bad guy thing and then getting a redemption story for his own film would made me feel more comfortable about a solo venom movie.

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Seeing the abundance of reboots and origin stories in the comic world, I find it no fault that the movie does it's own take on the character. I count on Hardy to make this one good; even if he does little to nothing, he's awesome (see "The Drop").

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