anime52k8 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Damn, too many purchase combinations of the VF-31. I personally don't want to get all but I will prioritise the following: VF-31A VF-31F Messer x Keith SV-262 - rivals VF-31F Messer x VF-31S Arad - dual emblems VF-31J and C - Hayate Mirage pair VF-31E and C - Team MakaReina support sub-unit :wub: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekko Basara Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 VF-31E and C - Team MakaReina support sub-unit :wub: Hehe, Team MakaReina. Very nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seti88 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Landing gear actually looks ok in the animation, one can hope it will be translated well on the DX. So... Tacovalk then? I would have preferred it angle the stance forward a bit, but yes looks good in animation. Lets hope bandai somehow angles the gear enough to avoid the knee scraping the shin when the weight of the fighter (or in future, any packs) are on them... haha not unless it doesnt unfold its radome when deployed.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Driver Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 I'm gonna want a 31A, and Mirage's bird. Those are the only two I really care about, since I'm all about team Mirage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sildani Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 (edited) Anyone else notice the 31C's radome is more an oval than a perfect circle? Or was I seeing things? Edited April 11, 2016 by Sildani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor One Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Anyone else notice the 31C's radome is more an oval than a perfect circle? Or was I seeing things? Nah it's a circle, just that it's not folded cleanly in half. The center line remains flat while the sides fold down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignacio Ocamica Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 I wonder how they are going to acommodate the landing gear, the joint for the knees and the joint for the kneecaps. That gear strut is housed on the lower leg and it seems it pushes out and rotates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M'Kyuun Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 I agree, Ignacio. I'm thinking there's a curved linkage, one end attached to a pivot point within the leg, and the other to the top of the visible strut. Upon retraction, the strut likely bends forward and retracts aft into the leg, guided and held by the internal linkage. That's the simplest and most logical way I can see its being done. It also makes sense for the bend near the wheel, which corresponds to the shape of the thigh above the knee. If this is indeed the way it's done, I'd assume the internal linkage will have two locking detentes corresponding to the extended and retracted positions, or at least one for the extended position, with the lower strut also locking in place by some mechanical means. I'll be a huge fan of this setup if that's how it's finally realized on the DX toy. Incidentally, what I've described is a very simplified B-1B Lancer main gear design. The struts themselves do not directly attach to the airframe, but to an intermediate set of linkages which fold during the retraction cycle. It's a neat thing to see, and even neater to feel if you're in the cockpit. I always repressed a small fear of bouncing off the jacks. It's about a 12 foot drop if the nose unseats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmkjr Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 (edited) Anyone else notice the 31C's radome is more an oval than a perfect circle? Or was I seeing things? It's oval/diamond shaped. You can see it in the shot above the planet with the boosters on and also watch it spinning when Chuck is talking on the coms. It's uneven when spinning. Edited April 11, 2016 by wmkjr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanedas Bike Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Circle vs. Oval! The next great debate. Personally I like that the 31E's radome folds away, more options for display. -b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelsain Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Looks like a circle, with those 4 pieces that expand out. That makes it look more ovaly from this angle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 It's oval/diamond shaped. You can see it in the shot above the planet with the boosters on and also watch it spinning when Chuck is talking on the coms. It's uneven when spinning. *snip* Yup, looks oval to me too. I check the scene prior to those snapshots when the pilot asked Reina for some jellyfish miso something, and when Reina answered on her overhead you can see the radome rotates unevenly. So yeah, I'm #TeamOvalRadome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seti88 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 I wonder how they are going to acommodate the landing gear, the joint for the knees and the joint for the kneecaps. That gear strut is housed on the lower leg and it seems it pushes out and rotates. Am hoping that it wouldn't be difficult to pull out or store...do not want to end up with any loose knee syndrome... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kajnrig Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Parts-swapping, maybe? Has Kawamori finally designed a design too intricately-designed for toy designers to design? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechaninac Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Parts-swapping, maybe? Has Kawamori finally designed a design too intricately-designed for toy designers to design? Say that ten times fast... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Am hoping that it wouldn't be difficult to pull out or store...do not want to end up with any loose knee syndrome... Or broken folding landing gear hinge for that matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptormesh Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Welp, just saw that 31A pic. Will even ditch the 02 for an A now. Many As. Must...resist...building...squad... It has funny kneegears. Ok, just three then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UN Spacy Posted April 12, 2016 Author Share Posted April 12, 2016 Best view of the landing gear doors so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekko Basara Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 I'm reminded of the mudguards that many Russians designs have as part of their general suitability for less prepared runways. On one hand, Kawamori has been very into the Russian look in his post-2000 valks. On the other hand, the idea of a VF having to use its wheels on a dirt strip is unlikely at best. So, maybe chalk it up to aesthetics or coincidence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seti88 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 I don't know about you, but I'm gonna need a 31A; Delta 3, 4, and 5 for OTP shipping purposes; and possibly Delta 2 as well just because. BTW is the marking on the 31A 'alpha 01'? yeah it certainly will be hard to not want to buy all of them that's for sure! for me personally im just not in as good a position as I was 12 to 18 months ago but I definitely have some serious thinking and planning to do in the next 6 months if I do decide to buy the lot. It does look like it is "01" doesn't it.. so that one is meant to be a cannon fodder variant yes or no? im still a little confused by it all. also trying to find somewhere to watch the 2nd episode.. with subs.. Mr March mentioned something in the delta ep2 thread that got me thinking and possibly explaining the a01 designation.. Perhaps the a01 is a test valk and hayate would be the test pilot of that valk. It would give more weight to why he is accepted into the squad, plus why there arent any other 31A's lying around in the tarmac. Eventually he would push the valk to its limits so much that to utilise its higher potential they convert the a01 into the 31J type and guess who gets to pilot it...hayate of course! They then approve the 31A non-FSW version for mass production based on hayate's test pilot trials! Possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManhattanProject972 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 The 31A looked as if it doesn't have those large fold quartz crystals. I wonder why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anime52k8 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 (edited) The 31A looked as if it doesn't have those large fold quartz crystals. I wonder why. because that crap is expensive, and we're no gonna be sticking it on grunt planes. Edited April 12, 2016 by anime52k8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vifam7 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 because that crap is expensive, and we're no gonna be sticking it on grunt planes. It would make more sense to stick it in every grunt plane and bring down the costs using economies of scale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmkjr Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 The 31A looked as if it doesn't have those large fold quartz crystals. I wonder why. It's there. Just painted over to keep with the low viz scheme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelsain Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 (edited) It's there. Just painted over to keep with the low viz scheme. But it won't work if it can't be seen, all pink & sparkly... My thought - we know the FQ has value in the inertial dampening stuff & probably a few other elements of the Valk. But, the big gaudy fold crystal pieces have really only been seen on the YF-29 (at least in the show), which was specifically built to disrupt fold communications. The VF-31's in Delta Platoon have the big crystals as part of their Sound Force 2 role, but the 31A's don't need them as part of their more-normal VF role. Edited April 12, 2016 by Kelsain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptormesh Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 The lack of gaudy crystals actually make the 31A more attractive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh9000 Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Hayate and Mirage's Valkyries for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Two episodes in and I'm down for one of each toy now.......haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest davidwhangchoi Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 good time to bump! if anyone is not on the list and wishes to be added on just post your list and i'll update it later at night. Macross World member's favorite VF-31 VF-31S Delta 01 -pilot* Arad Mölders -associated waifu*** Mikumo Guynemer Seti88 Scyla Andy NYK barurutor derex3592 (tie w/ delta 02) no3ljm Shukenzero valhary Dio VF-31F Delta 02 -pilot* Messer Ihlefeld -associated waifu*** Kaname Buccaneer Raptor One Saburo (tie w/ delta 04) Graham chyll2 derex3592 (tie w/ delta 01) Sildani Kaneda's Bike charger69 raptormesh akteon NZEOD RocketGTR McFly!! M'Kyuun VF-31E Delta 03 -pilot* Chuck Mustang -associated waifu Reina Prowler Major Focker wmkjr (tie w/ delta 04) VF-31C Delta 04 -pilot* Mirage Fallyna Jenius -associated waifu*** Makina Nakajima davidwhangchoi mod David Saburo (tie w/ delta 02) Bub wmkjr (tie w/ delta 03) anime52k8 ManhattanProject972 (tie w/ delta 05) VF-31J Delta 05 -pilot** Hayate Immelmann -associated waifu*** Freyja Wion abbadon Lorindor ManhattanProject972 (tie w/ delta 04) VF-31A GabrielV 1/1 LowViz Lurker sandman Ignacio Ocamica Moosey physioguy Spanner76 will update weekly or bi-weekly. more frequent when we get closer to pre-order stage. * may be subject to change **not seen yet in anime *** speculated based on interactions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanedas Bike Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 31F for the win -b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptormesh Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Please move me from the F to the A David. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandman Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 The 31a is catching up to second place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chyll2 Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 If I cant get a 31F DX toy, ill change my vote to 31A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realdeal Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 (edited) Davidwangchoi Can you put me down for 02 as my favorite? Edited April 13, 2016 by realdeal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelsain Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 31A for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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