Firefox Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 With the current low entry point of 3D scanning and printing, plus the high prices of the Arcadia's products, it just a matter of time bootlegs show up. I'm sure their quality won't be as good. But if the bootlegs can achive 80% or more of Arcadia's quality with half the price, I can't see why the collectors with average income that was shunned by Arcadia's pricing, won't buy the bootlegs. Not sure why Arcadia price the way the price now. If it's licensing issue, I hope BW don't get too greedy and kill off another company that is willing to make great Macross toys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seti88 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Oh yea ...there is one more thing arcadia can do to cover the macross zero series... Tho that may be a stretch to sell...maybe as a last resort... Well lets see what arcadia comes up in future in terms of macross...back to the 51 tho, am waiting to hear how they will blog/improve on it...what exactly can you do arcadia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeRoz Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Like how whoever is behind these knockoffs has been paying attention. Straight to the M&M knockoffs. I'll sit this out, as I already have a second-hand set, sans boxes, from Yamato. There is a decent chance I'd double-dip if the real thing ever came from Arcadia, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacemanoeuvres Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Yeah there's obviously a market for the KO products. I bet macross plus is next! Maybe I'll be able to pickup a yf-21 for less than $350-$400 after all haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvmacross Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 8 hours ago, Xigfrid said: I wish that the reason behind these KO VF-1 is that Arcadia is fully committed in a complete new line, with new V3 molds and exiting features. That would explain why the old molds would eventually got sold and ended to be used by KO but Arcadia would still be ahead thanks to improved versions and safe from any copies of the current models. Thats my wish. Probably someone just re-casted one of the Yamato VF-1 kits...that would be the easiest thing a KO company could do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no3Ljm Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 (edited) 14 hours ago, Tober said: I wonder if they could get a license for Macross: The First... They could do the SDF and Valkyrie variants without excessive cost. I'm IN for this for sure. I really like the redesigned or I mean recolored VF-1J. 4 hours ago, spacemanoeuvres said: Yeah there's obviously a market for the KO products. I bet macross plus is next! Maybe I'll be able to pickup a yf-21 for less than $350-$400 after all haha Less than $350-400? You think so? Look how Arcadia prices their new releases. It's already in the $320-340 price mark. You never know if we're going to reach that prices you mentioned soon. But to be honest, even at that price, I would still love to see their renewal take on the YF-21. 34 minutes ago, jvmacross said: Probably someone just re-casted one of the Yamato VF-1 kits...that would be the easiest thing a KO company could do For sure. It's the same thing happened on Bandai's Gunplas. Third parties or bootleggers cast the original mold and start from there. And look where they are now. Their designing new stuff too that Bandai hasn't produced it yet. Probably because they already alloted budget from selling mass produced recast Gunplas. Just adding this note. And to be honest, I already read a lot of stuff regarding bootlegs and whatnot. I for one, is also guilty of having selected bootlegs in my collection. And the only reason for that is because the original releases have astronomical prices and no assurance if there will be a reissue or not. That's why when the opportunity arises for those KO's I grabbed a few. But the moment the original product got reissued months and years later, I still went and bought the originals. That being said, I always make sure that I will not miss any PO's of figures that I want instead of waiting for a KO company to produce it. Edited March 23, 2017 by no3Ljm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 I want a v.3 VF-1 mold like I want to dive face first into a woodchipper. I know some people would love seeing further improvements, but I'd much rather see either new products, or variants of old ones that people have been wanting for years (coughcoughsupernovaschemes). But I mean.. if the labor involved in assembly and painting of these is what's driving the cost? Issue kits of everything and be done. Arcadia seems to be chasing its tail every 5 minutes trying to appease every single fan who makes some comment about paint colors, or build quality control, or whatever. They need to just save themselves the headache, and release kits of all their molds (in various base colors of course), so they can breathe easy and just let the customers make everything how they like. Seriously, I would probably spend more on kit versions than pre-made ones, because whether I ever get to doing them or not, the number of things I can imagine building far exceeds what any company would ever even come close to releasing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duymon Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 6 hours ago, Chronocidal said: I want a v.3 VF-1 mold like I want to dive face first into a woodchipper. I know some people would love seeing further improvements, but I'd much rather see either new products, or variants of old ones that people have been wanting for years (coughcoughsupernovaschemes). But I mean.. if the labor involved in assembly and painting of these is what's driving the cost? Issue kits of everything and be done. Arcadia seems to be chasing its tail every 5 minutes trying to appease every single fan who makes some comment about paint colors, or build quality control, or whatever. They need to just save themselves the headache, and release kits of all their molds (in various base colors of course), so they can breathe easy and just let the customers make everything how they like. Seriously, I would probably spend more on kit versions than pre-made ones, because whether I ever get to doing them or not, the number of things I can imagine building far exceeds what any company would ever even come close to releasing. Oh God. If Arcadia released kit versions of all their products I probably couldn't resist... but my Macross Model Backlog is already YEARS LONG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 I guess next for Arcadia after the Ivanov is gonna be a Nora or CF Sv-51. Kinda a no-brainer. What I would really like to see is their take on the VF-25. But that's probably never gonna happen, as I doubt Bandai would allow BW to issue a licence to Arcadia to make 1/60 scale transforming VF-25 toys. Arcadia really should get around to releasing the M&M VF-1J and the VT-1 and VE-1 for those that missed the original Yamato releases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sildani Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 As for the 51, most likely Nora's will be next. I'd love for Arcadia to reissue the Elintseeker, even in a "premium finish". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 The Elint was already a premium finish release. Amazing amount of Tampo on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derex3592 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Elint was the best Yamato VF-1 release IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchieNov Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 If Arcadia only released kit versions of their toys, then I'm out. I'm sure many people would do so as well as not everyone has the skills, tools, and time to build and paint a valk model kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derex3592 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Fully agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 I have no time for kits which is super sad because I have a scheme and custom I'm dieing to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boobytrap Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 (edited) I might get a couple of kits but that's not what I would really want. These are transforming kits first and foremost. The last thing I would want is to spend hours/days/weeks doing a custom paint job just to have it ruined the first time I transformed it. And there's no way I would not transform it. If I wanted a static kit I would just get a more detailed Hasegawa. At most I'd just paint areas that don't rub against other parts and add some weathering. I'd never be able to go all out and do something like a traditional aircraft grey or camo paint scheme like I would want. Edited March 27, 2017 by Boobytrap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gojira101 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 I'd really like a Gluag and Regult but my guess is Arcadia doesn't do much original designing it seems. Someone in the know can correct me . I may be interested in a VF-21 also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erizai Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 How about A kit with semi finished? Any taker? if price is right, why not? Then the whole bad guys team got chance to surface... (any series) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetrollphysicist Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 (edited) If Bandai ever release a DX Chogokin VF-22S Sturmvogel II in NUNS color of Macross Delta, I want Arcadia to re-issue the YF-21, Bandai VF-22S is definitely very likely to happen, especially considering that they already did a VF-19ADVANCE as a superior Chogokin toy compared to Arcadia YF-19, so i have high hope that Arcadia would do the same. Edited March 28, 2017 by thetrollphysicist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valhary Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 I'm in a vf 22 v2 would be welcome with chunky proportions a new door leg system that close correctly for fighter mode and a integrated cockpit cover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seti88 Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 It would probably be released as a weathered version, with dimension bomb dust on the fuselage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbadon Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Max and Milia next? https://twitter.com/ARCADIA_Co_Ltd/status/849879365991120896 【お知らせ】 「1/60 完全変形 VF-1Jスーパーバルキリーミリア搭乗機（仮）」「1/60 完全変形 VF-1Jスーパーバルキリーマックス搭乗機（仮）」共に近日受注開始が決定しました！発売はミリアが八月！マックスが12月を予定！詳細は追って告知します！ #マクロス #完全変形 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 3 minutes ago, abbadon said: Max and Milia next? https://twitter.com/ARCADIA_Co_Ltd/status/849879365991120896 【お知らせ】 「1/60 完全変形 VF-1Jスーパーバルキリーミリア搭乗機（仮）」「1/60 完全変形 VF-1Jスーパーバルキリーマックス搭乗機（仮）」共に近日受注開始が決定しました！発売はミリアが八月！マックスが12月を予定！詳細は追って告知します！ #マクロス #完全変形 doing a quick translation it would seem so yes! Finally something I'll be in for! sucks I paid a fortune for mine but that was a little while ago now so it won't hurt that much in the overall scheme of things.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanner Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 the translation.. 【Notice】 "1/60 perfect deformation VF - 1 J Super Valkyrie Milia boarding aircraft (provisional)" "1/60 perfect deformation VF - 1 J Super Valkyrie Max boarding plane (temporary)" is decided to start orders coming soon! The release is August Miria! Max plans for December! Details will be announced later! # Macross # complete deformation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treatment Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 15 minutes ago, abbadon said: Max and Milia next? https://twitter.com/ARCADIA_Co_Ltd/status/849879365991120896 【お知らせ】 「1/60 完全変形 VF-1Jスーパーバルキリーミリア搭乗機（仮）」「1/60 完全変形 VF-1Jスーパーバルキリーマックス搭乗機（仮）」共に近日受注開始が決定しました！発売はミリアが八月！マックスが12月を予定！詳細は追って告知します！ #マクロス #完全変形 YES!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperHobo Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Please, please be true! I need these two, to never buy VF-1s ever again! My body is ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seti88 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 How much how much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erizai Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Finally dream come true!!!!! Arcadia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lolicon Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 F*** YES! 2 of the last VF-1s I need! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erizai Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Just now, Lolicon said: F*** YES! 2 of the last VF-1s I need! Eh..., They are 1J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 So knock off competition lit a fire under Arcadia? I didn't get them the first time around so obviously I'll dip. SuperOstrich next? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 1 minute ago, erizai said: Eh..., They are 1J VF-1s as in plural, not VF-1S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treatment Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, seti88 said: How much how much? rest of MWF replies this much... Edited April 6, 2017 by treatment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erizai Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Timing is about just right for August, not sure one at a time, or both at the same time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lolicon Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, erizai said: Eh..., They are 1J Lower case S indicates it's a plural, not the S model lol Edit: jenius beat me to it. Edited April 6, 2017 by Lolicon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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