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2 hours ago, davidwhangchoi said:

Ooo, i just checked after reading both your posts.  mine was already delivered too. i have to go and grab it from my doorman

got my kids meal toy:

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David: I'd like a Happy Meal, please.

McDonald's employee: That'll be $129.99.

 

2 minutes ago, derex3592 said:

Love it. 

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She's a beauty! DHL didn't deliver mine till almost 7 PM. Unusual since they rarely deliver later than noon. Won't have time to mess with it till tomorrow now.

Time to prepare the scaled-down waterslides!

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On 2/23/2019 at 11:32 AM, Slave IV said:

Yeah, I would want an F-14 and A-10. My two favorites. 

 

On 2/23/2019 at 1:05 PM, no3Ljm said:

That is neat, sh9000. :good:

Btw, what's the one on the left? Also, any chance you have a F-16?

 

I’ve got the A-10 and F-16 coming.  Personally I like how all of them mix with HMR.

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20 minutes ago, Lolicon said:

Did anyone ever figure out what SDF-018 refers to? It's also on the Yamato sticker sheet so it's not something Bandai just pulled out of their ***.

I've got my Flashback 2012 book in front of me, no where does it show or mention an SDF-018, so that's either something that was mentioned in a backstory somewhere or yes, Bandai reached behind & pulled something out of their...  

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14 minutes ago, Lolicon said:

Did anyone ever figure out what SDF-018 refers to? It's also on the Yamato sticker sheet so it's not something Bandai just pulled out of their ***.

The old Yamato one was a VF-4G though, wasn't it?  The VF-4G only showed up in Macross M3 and Macross Digital Mission VF-X.

Someone asked me about this on Facebook a bit ago, and I've checked every major artbook I have for a VF-4 with this specific marking, and come up dry.

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45 minutes ago, Lolicon said:

Did anyone ever figure out what SDF-018 refers to? It's also on the Yamato sticker sheet so it's not something Bandai just pulled out of their ***.

 

Looking at the format for United States Air Force tail codes as a possible example...

Tail code of an F-4 of the 49th Fighter Wing at Holloman AFB in New Mexico

(source: http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/history/q0222.shtml)

... what we see is a 2 letter base code (in the case of the example picture, "HO"), an smaller "AF" (or Air Force), a 2 digit order year ("72"), and finally a 3 digit serial number ("118").

If we assume that UN Spacy has a unified military branch rather than separate Air Force, Navy, Marine, etc. branches, then we can toss out the need for the "AF" in our example. Also, if UN Spacy omits an order year from their tail codes, then we can lose the "72".  As such, this would leave us with an "HO 118", the base code and the fighter's serial number.

Now, in the case of the VF-4 Lightning III's "SDF-118" tail code, my guess is that maybe this is the 118th fighter specifically assigned to a Super Dimensional Fortress.

An argument against this theory is that the SDF-1 may have had hundreds of VF-1 fighters... more than 117, which would offset this 118 designation on the VF-4.  However, a counter-argument could be that many of the SDF-1's fighter contingent were actually assigned to the Daedalus and Prometheus carriers in the case of the TV series, or the two ARMD carriers in the case of DYRL.  As such, this could possibly explain how the SDF-1 could have less than 118 VF-1 fighters assigned to it with the SDF base code in order to accommodate the Megaroad having a VF-4 assigned to it with the SDF-118 tail code.

Just a thought. I could be totally off on this idea.

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3 minutes ago, Shizuka the Cat said:

Just a thought. I could be totally off on this idea.

The [New] UN Spacy markings are based on US Navy markings.

Usually the tail has the squadron insignia, the tail code of the Carrier Air Wing, and depending on the VF the name and/or full designation of the carrier may be included as well.  (The ship's name is sometimes written elsewhere on the fuselage.)

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35 minutes ago, 505thAirborne said:

I've got my Flashback 2012 book in front of me, no where does it show or mention an SDF-018, so that's either something that was mentioned in a backstory somewhere or yes, Bandai reached behind & pulled something out of their...  

 

30 minutes ago, Seto Kaiba said:

The old Yamato one was a VF-4G though, wasn't it?  The VF-4G only showed up in Macross M3 and Macross Digital Mission VF-X.

Someone asked me about this on Facebook a bit ago, and I've checked every major artbook I have for a VF-4 with this specific marking, and come up dry.

Thanks for the input! If there's no canonical reference to it with regards to FB2012, then I'll go ahead and strip it off and replace it with SDF-2.

 

6 minutes ago, Shizuka the Cat said:

 

Looking at the format for United States Air Force tail codes as a possible example...

Tail code of an F-4 of the 49th Fighter Wing at Holloman AFB in New Mexico

(source: http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/history/q0222.shtml)

... what we see is a 2 letter base code (in the case of the example picture, "HO"), an smaller "AF" (or Air Force), a 2 digit order year ("72"), and finally a 3 digit serial number ("118").

If we assume that UN Spacy has a unified military branch rather than separate Air Force, Navy, Marine, etc. branches, then we can toss out the need for the "AF" in our example. Also, if UN Spacy omits an order year from their tail codes, then we can lose the "72".  As such, this would leave us with an "HO 118", the base code and the fighter's serial number.

Now, in the case of the VF-4 Lightning III's "SDF-118" tail code, my guess is that maybe this is the 118th fighter specifically assigned to a Super Dimensional Fortress.

An argument against this theory is that the SDF-1 may have had hundreds of VF-1 fighters... more than 117, which would offset this 118 designation on the VF-4.  However, a counter-argument could be that many of the SDF-1's fighter contingent were actually assigned to the Daedalus and Prometheus carriers in the case of the TV series, or the two ARMD carriers in the case of DYRL.  As such, this could possibly explain how the SDF-1 could have less than 118 VF-1 fighters assigned to it with the SDF base code in order to accommodate the Megaroad having a VF-4 assigned to it with the SDF-118 tail code.

Just a thought. I could be totally off on this idea.

Interesting stuff. But it's 018, not 118. Could be the 18th VF-4 to enter service, but there's no reference to it anywhere in the animation or books, according to our resident lore masters.

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5 minutes ago, Lolicon said:

 

Thanks for the input! If there's no canonical reference to it with regards to FB2012, then I'll go ahead and strip it off and replace it with SDF-2.

 

Interesting stuff. But it's 018, not 118. Could be the 18th VF-4 to enter service, but there's no reference to it anywhere in the animation or books, according to our resident lore masters.

Oops... Did not realize it was 018 and not 118.  

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Just now, Lolicon said:

Thanks for the input! If there's no canonical reference to it with regards to FB2012, then I'll go ahead and strip it off and replace it with SDF-2.

I suspect the "SDF-018" from the old Yamato toy sticker sheet was possibly a nod to the Megaroad-class ship Max and Milia were briefly stationed aboard in Macross M3.

The sticker sheets for the Arcadia toy and the CG models made for Master File have the SDF-2's VF-4s marked "MEGAROAD-01".

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Navy planes never have their bureau/serial numbers on the tailfins.   It's low/rear, ahead of the exhausts usually, on the sides.   (it'd be right behind "UN SPACY" on most valks)   

Anyways---it's got "SDF-018" roughly where the TV VF-1's say "Prometheus" or "ARMD-01".   So I think it's just showing what "carrier" it's assigned to---a nameless SDF, that is simply hull number 18.  Having the carrier name on the tailfins isn't super-common in the real US Navy, but it's not rare, either. 

(Were any VF-0's marked "CVN-99" or did they say Asuka?  I thought some were marked with their carrier)  

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8 minutes ago, David Hingtgen said:

Navy planes never have their bureau/serial numbers on the tailfins.   It's low/rear, ahead of the exhausts usually, on the sides.   (it'd be right behind "UN SPACY" on most valks)   

Anyways---it's got "SDF-018" roughly where the TV VF-1's say "Prometheus" or "ARMD-01".   So I think it's just showing what "carrier" it's assigned to---a nameless SDF, that is simply hull number 18.  Having the carrier name on the tailfins isn't super-common in the real US Navy, but it's not rare, either. 

(Were any VF-0's marked "CVN-99" or did they say Asuka?  I thought some were marked with their carrier)  

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Good point.

Until like SDF-1, which mostly traveled thru space alone, the Megaroad was part of a fleet with escort ships and carriers.

It is quite possible that the SDF-018 printed on the VF-4's tail could refer to the fighter being assigned to one of the carriers escorting the Megaroad.

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13 minutes ago, David Hingtgen said:

Anyways---it's got "SDF-018" roughly where the TV VF-1's say "Prometheus" or "ARMD-01".   So I think it's just showing what "carrier" it's assigned to---a nameless SDF, that is simply hull number 18.  Having the carrier name on the tailfins isn't super-common in the real US Navy, but it's not rare, either. 

From what we know in official materials, SDF-018 should be Megaroad-17.

(SDF was the hull classification symbol given to the Megaroad-class starting from SDF-2.)

 

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(Were any VF-0's marked "CVN-99" or did they say Asuka?  I thought some were marked with their carrier)  

The filming CG models used in Macross Zero didn't have any tail markings of any kind, except for Roy's VF-0S which just had his trademark Skull and Crossbones.

Master File added appropriate markings that included, depending on the unit, either the carrier designation (CVN-99 or CVN-100) or the name of the carrier (Asuka II or Graf Zeppelin II).

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2 minutes ago, Seto Kaiba said:

Master File added appropriate markings that included, depending on the unit, either the carrier designation (CVN-99 or CVN-100) or the name of the carrier (Asuka II or Graf Zeppelin II).

Such Carrier ID markings do not appear on Hase's Decal sheets either.

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14 minutes ago, Seto Kaiba said:

I suspect the "SDF-018" from the old Yamato toy sticker sheet was possibly a nod to the Megaroad-class ship Max and Milia were briefly stationed aboard in Macross M3.

The sticker sheets for the Arcadia toy and the CG models made for Master File have the SDF-2's VF-4s marked "MEGAROAD-01".

It does say MEGAROAD-01 on the lower stabilizer, so it's Hikaru's ride. :) So no qualms about removing it.

9 minutes ago, David Hingtgen said:

Navy planes never have their bureau/serial numbers on the tailfins.   It's low/rear, ahead of the exhausts usually, on the sides.   (it'd be right behind "UN SPACY" on most valks)   

Anyways---it's got "SDF-018" roughly where the TV VF-1's say "Prometheus" or "ARMD-01".   So I think it's just showing what "carrier" it's assigned to---a nameless SDF, that is simply hull number 18.  Having the carrier name on the tailfins isn't super-common in the real US Navy, but it's not rare, either. 

(Were any VF-0's marked "CVN-99" or did they say Asuka?  I thought some were marked with their carrier)  

According to Hasegawa instructions, they say ASUKA. Don't have access to the actual show atm.

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1 minute ago, Lolicon said:

According to Hasegawa instructions, they say ASUKA. Don't have access to the actual show atm.

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of course the one VF-0 kit I don't have in-hand would have it them on it........

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3 minutes ago, Lolicon said:

According to Hasegawa instructions, they say ASUKA. Don't have access to the actual show atm.

Master File's version puts it slightly farther down, on the narrow part of the stabilizer and in a slightly larger font, but yeah they're not in the show.... everybody but Roy just has a blank stabilizer.

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Collected mine and opened it. First, quick impressions are that she's a cute little thing. Paint is a bit blurry where two colours meet but nothing too terrible. The detail is impressive at this scale, even panel lines aren't grossly out of proportion (they could be smaller bit it's not that bad). Only real gripe is the moveable canards and tails: just like on the bigger Yamato/Arcadia variant, they are easy to bump out of alignment. 

Overall, very nice effort by Bandai!

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Got my copy today from amiami and I love it aside from the glaring flaw that the canopy section will not sink at all like the videos and instructions tell you to. It's like it is glued into place and no matter how hard or gently I apply pressure it wont sink. So i guess no battroid for me.

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11 hours ago, sh9000 said:

 

I’ve got the A-10 and F-16 coming.  Personally I like how all of them mix with HMR.

Are you getting 1/100 scale aircraft?  I assume that's what it scales to, correct?  If one was interested in getting some is there a particular company that is better/best to consider?

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46 minutes ago, Lolicon said:

Opened up my VF-4. She looks great!

But why are the UN Spacy kite, intake markings, and stabilizer stripes painted brown instead of red? Makes this VF-4 look like the evil Lightning, like the evil Superman from Superman III. :lol:

Good question.  Seems like Bandai was aiming to hit the colors from Flashback 2012, which if I remember correctly, did seem a bit washed out.

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6 hours ago, Carceroth said:

Got my copy today from amiami and I love it aside from the glaring flaw that the canopy section will not sink at all like the videos and instructions tell you to. It's like it is glued into place and no matter how hard or gently I apply pressure it wont sink. So i guess no battroid for me.

It does sink. Maybe your copy has an issue?

On the bright side, you're not missing out on much by not having battroid mode.

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10 hours ago, Carceroth said:

Got my copy today from amiami and I love it aside from the glaring flaw that the canopy section will not sink at all like the videos and instructions tell you to. It's like it is glued into place and no matter how hard or gently I apply pressure it wont sink. So i guess no battroid for me.

A photo might be more helpful so other can take a look to see possible solutions.  

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