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1 hour ago, Mommar said:

Up to Minnesota. 

It's only the 11th.  Anybody waiting for BBTS, January.  You've got a ways to go.

thanks.:unsure:

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4 hours ago, sqidd said:

I really like that! I will copy.:good:

There is a little “cheat” :db:to pulling it off:

There’s a ball joint at the top of the shock absorbers;  I wind up just popping off that joint from the bike part that connects under the armpit/side torso.

Frees up the posing angles some.

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2 hours ago, Mog said:

There is a little “cheat” :db:to pulling it off:

There’s a ball joint at the top of the shock absorbers;  I wind up just popping off that joint from the bike part that connects under the armpit/side torso.

Frees up the posing angles some.

Roger that! Thanks!

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Crap.  Mine has a white stress mark on one of the transforming joints out of the box.  Is it going to break?  Some of my other toys that have these marks get brittle and break eventually.

 

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2 hours ago, beatsing said:

Mine has a white stress mark on one of the transforming joints out of the box.  Is it going to break?

Heat the area with a hair dryer, and see if the mark fades.  They usually do.

If it doesn't, you'll know the piece is under significant stress.

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That looks like the same spot where @Mommar had a break in his. But I think his picture showed it broken at a different point than your stress mark. 
 

would try the hair dryer method but I’d also get in touch with your retailer about it and let them know, in case it does break later. 

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On 12/11/2019 at 4:41 PM, Mog said:

Just barely got my copy of Yellow this past Monday.

First impressions?

Still wish the bike and armor were a shade or two lighter.

Lot of the joints are pretty tight on mine, compared to my Stick and Rey.

I did wind up popping off some of the ball joints during the transformation process, one shoulder armor/pauldron liked to come off while I was futzing with poses, and the flaps on my wheel boosters like to come off when I'm angling out the booster.  But all the pieces can be popped back into place (with a little lots of patience).

Also, the transformation for the arm gauntlets was a little tricky to follow in the instruction booklet.

But overall I'm pleased to finally have the bladed bastard.

A few words of advice: 

1)  Be careful pushing in the windshield assembly for armor mode.  It looks like you can push it in more, but the clear plastic windshield will start to push upward and could pop off or break.

2)  As with the first two Ride Armors, when separating the crotch armor from the rest of the bike, open these joints from the bottom up.  It takes a bit of effort to get the parts to separate, but it's a little easier and less stressful than trying to separate these parts from the top down.

Tried to do the super-hero landing/kneeling pose, but just couldn't pull it off in full armored mode.  However, Yellow can impersonate a certain surly Canadian just fine:

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Bring on Houquet, and complete the team!

Did the bike's central metal rod leave any scratch on Yellow's belly after transformation? I remember my Stick's belly was scratched after transformation.

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13 hours ago, beatsing said:

Crap.  Mine has a white stress mark on one of the transforming joints out of the box.  Is it going to break?  Some of my other toys that have these marks get brittle and break eventually.

 

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That’s the piece that broke on mine.  It was on the opposite side of the bit, but it is the same piece.  When you took the cycle out of the box were the stabilizers even or was the right one a little bit crooked?

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I guess this issue is widespread <_<

Never transformed Stick's bike and one piece is already cracked and the other has a white stress mark.

I have transformed Rei's bike twice and both pieces are cracked. 

Both bikes pieces are still holding up despite the cracks.

First pic Stick's bike, and second one is Rei's bike.

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3 minutes ago, Mommar said:

I don’t understand why that piece isn’t metal to begin with.

Probably will be on Houquets if enough people start pointing it out!

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I wound up with one anyways, tried to cancel my order on amazon when it was first pointed out but it was too late. Now I’m going to have to check it out - I haven’t transformed mine yet though.

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44 minutes ago, jenius said:

Probably will be on Houquets if enough people start pointing it out!

Where should we direct our images?

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Japanese customers will likely complain to Sentinel and that will get their attention. People can post in this thread though and I'll point it out too.

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10 hours ago, jeniusornome said:

That looks like the same spot where @Mommar had a break in his. But I think his picture showed it broken at a different point than your stress mark. 
 

would try the hair dryer method but I’d also get in touch with your retailer about it and let them know, in case it does break later. 

Thanks.  I was late to the preorder game and bought it a day later at HLJ.  I've bought from Maschinen Krieger Sentinel from them that had defects before, and they were good about replacement parts, so I thought they'd deal with it.  No.  Their service isn't like before.  HLJ said "this falls within range of quality variation according to the manufacturer and so we cannot provide a replacement.  

 

3 hours ago, Mommar said:

That’s the piece that broke on mine.  It was on the opposite side of the bit, but it is the same piece.  When you took the cycle out of the box were the stabilizers even or was the right one a little bit crooked?

Yup, the right one was crooked when it came out of the box.  It is tight, unlike the left which rotates easily.  I gingerly rotated it, so it's not from excessive force, supporting the weight of parts it carries.  I also transformed my Stick first before attempting Yellow.

3 hours ago, Ignacio Ocamica said:

I guess this issue is widespread <_<

Never transformed Stick's bike and one piece is already cracked and the other has a white stress mark.

I have transformed Rei's bike twice and both pieces are cracked. 

Both bikes pieces are still holding up despite the cracks.

First pic Stick's bike, and second one is Rei's bike.

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that's bad.  It's like Yammie v2

2 hours ago, Mommar said:

I don’t understand why that piece isn’t metal to begin with.

Same question for all transforming joints.  

For a pricey toy, it shouldn't be broken out of the box.  It's awesome that I can order it a day or two after preorder day, but defects like this shouldn't have passed quality assurance.  Sentinel should offer replacements like Figma did for the messy paint on the Berserk sword.

Shucks.  Yellow is my favorite of all the ride armors.  From centerpiece to expensive brick.

 

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There are things called an engineered failure point.  They protect more expensive components by failing first.  But, that would imply that replacement parts would be readily available.  :unknw:

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I remember seeing Yaco's post on twitter and he had the same issue with the hinges cracking in the area folks are pointing out above. I haven't checked my Rei or Stiq, but I will in due time. I'd probably send these images to Sentinel's twitter account and try to make them aware of the issue. 

Ah crap I just noticed the left side has a stress mark and I haven't even transformed Yellow's ride armor yet. 

 

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I would suspect that in the design process this part was identified as simply housing rotation, not enduring stress. Clearly, that was not the case. Otherwise the factory might have figured out a shortcut for installing it that is actually breaking it... That was the problem Yamato kept running into.

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I just checked mine - haven't transformed it - and I see a very faint stress mark on the left side. I can't get a good picture of it but it looks like what some of you have shown, like it runs parallel with the pin inside that joint. This is as close I could get.

That's a real bummer, it's something I was hoping to avoid (which is why I tried to cancel the order in the first place).

Also my windscreen fell off while I was looking at it - just turned the bike upside down and it fell right out. The tiny plastic tab looks like it's broken but I think it's actually dried glue that just didn't stick properly.

Wondering how Amazon JP is about returns... I like how the figure looks but not sure I like it enough to lose $180 on it when it inevitably breaks. And I don't have any reason to believe any of these companies will provide replacement parts for any particular issue.

OTOH, this is likely the only Lancer / Yellow figure we'll see in a long while (maybe KC will get to one, who knows), and I'd like to have him and Houquet on my shelf...

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I just checked out my Stick, one hair line crack on one side, the other side looks good, maybe in better light I would see a stress mark. I wonder if the problem is the pin, it's one of those expanding pin connections. Maybe they are using a pin that creates too much pressure and it's breaking the joint from within. I dunno, I don't make toys :)

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3 minutes ago, jenius said:

I just checked out my Stick, one hair line crack on one side, the other side looks good, maybe in better light I would see a stress mark. I wonder if the problem is the pin, it's one of those expanding pin connections. Maybe they are using a pin that creates too much pressure and it's breaking the joint from within. I dunno, I don't make toys :)

I just checked out mine too.  Hairline cracks on both sides.  Rey is fine still, though.

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3 hours ago, jenius said:

I just checked out my Stick, one hair line crack on one side, the other side looks good, maybe in better light I would see a stress mark. I wonder if the problem is the pin, it's one of those expanding pin connections. Maybe they are using a pin that creates too much pressure and it's breaking the joint from within. I dunno, I don't make toys :)

I'm someone who designs and manufactures things (not toys). You're probably right.

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5 hours ago, jenius said:

I just checked out my Stick, one hair line crack on one side, the other side looks good, maybe in better light I would see a stress mark. I wonder if the problem is the pin, it's one of those expanding pin connections. Maybe they are using a pin that creates too much pressure and it's breaking the joint from within. I dunno, I don't make toys :)

Is anyone doing a lot of posing of the gauntlets with the pistons attached in armor mode? I surmise that the tightness of the piston when trying to pose the toy is putting some pressure at that thin plastic junction with the pin assembly. I noticed that the sparkled bar (I dont know the proper name) flails when I repose/ pose the arms with the gauntlets/ pistons attached. I think this contributes to the stress mark and break.

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I'll have to check my Stig and Ray.  Still waiting for Yellow. Might be a good idea to video record opening Yellows box in case it's already broke inside the box.

Even if all our toys are broken.  I don't want to pay extra to ship it back for replacements.  These toys are expensive enough as it is.

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Both of my Stig and Ray seems free of breaks, cracks or stress marks.  I only transformed them once to robot mode.  Kept them in that mode for a couple weeks before transforming them back to bike mode.  Where they've been kept in for several months now.  Does bike mode put less stress on the part than it does robot mode does?  

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3 hours ago, blackconvoy_D01 said:

Is anyone doing a lot of posing of the gauntlets with the pistons attached in armor mode? I surmise that the tightness of the piston when trying to pose the toy is putting some pressure at that thin plastic junction with the pin assembly. I noticed that the sparkled bar (I dont know the proper name) flails when I repose/ pose the arms with the gauntlets/ pistons attached. I think this contributes to the stress mark and break.

I'm not handling my toy right now but that might explain why my Stick toy is only broken on the right side.. because I was trying to do firing the missile poses with everything attached. If it's a weak link it might be something that gets broken during assembly and if it makes it safe to the consumer, the consumer breaks when trying to pose/transform it.

Yaco apparently notified Sentinel (and there have probably been some returns) so it will be researched.

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On 12/12/2019 at 9:23 AM, Masked Aviator said:

Did the bike's central metal rod leave any scratch on Yellow's belly after transformation? I remember my Stick's belly was scratched after transformation.

Haven’t really checked yet.  If it did, it’s either really small, or I really didn’t notice it.

I too got a scratch on my Stick from that part, but it’s kinda hard to spot it, unless you’re really searching for it.

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Didn't noticed these stress marks till you're said about it, but yes,i have them in my Stick and Ray too. I'm sad now

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Nothing on Stick, Ray or Yellow. I have another Stick in the box. Unknown condition.

 

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7 hours ago, blackconvoy_D01 said:

Is anyone doing a lot of posing of the gauntlets with the pistons attached in armor mode? I surmise that the tightness of the piston when trying to pose the toy is putting some pressure at that thin plastic junction with the pin assembly. I noticed that the sparkled bar (I dont know the proper name) flails when I repose/ pose the arms with the gauntlets/ pistons attached. I think this contributes to the stress mark and break.

I took the pistons out on Stick and expanded the holes they slid into as wellas rimming with a bit of shock oil and it worked wonders.  I'm extra glad that I did now because I didn't even take that into account.

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Was going to review the 3z Ingram but that has to wait and Yellow is next up... is the q.c. better than the previous two?

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49 minutes ago, Kuma Style said:

I took the pistons out on Stick and expanded the holes they slid into as wellas rimming with a bit of shock oil and it worked wonders.  I'm extra glad that I did now because I didn't even take that into account.

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I'm going to try this too. I want to keep the esthetic of pistons and their use in armored mode. Thanks Kuma!

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