Valkyrie addict Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Most things about the Frontier mecha don't make any sense, specially all those weird beam weapons in the armor/FP for the 25 since you had to use a knife to kill the vajra. I dislike how in a combat POV battroid looks extremely fragile and vulnerable, I mean, the cockpit is fully exposed on the sides and back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger69 Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptormesh Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Looks good, but dat tiny vert stab connection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaitouSad Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 so those missle pods only hold 1 missle each? man I though they held 1 container of micro missles each. anyway im totally cool with the design. when we have transforming jets and fast /armored packs that work in atmospheric environment, I think we can allow a little suspension of disbelief. that said it's a damn shame the wings just hang out like that (as with the whole 25-29 series), but it really sticks out here. depending on the price I would probably aim for 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YF-29 Durandal Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 so those missle pods only hold 1 missle each? man I though they held 1 container of micro missles each. anyway im totally cool with the design. when we have transforming jets and fast /armored packs that work in atmospheric environment, I think we can allow a little suspension of disbelief. that said it's a damn shame the wings just hang out like that (as with the whole 25-29 series), but it really sticks out here. depending on the price I would probably aim for 2. Eighteen missiles all in all which isn't that much... I think that there is room for four to six more in the middle of the pod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon18 Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Very sexy fighter mode. And that v stab looks fragile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scyla Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 The fighter mode is beautiful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Actar Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 (edited) Any Japanese speakers? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suCsM0t3jYE watch @ 2:00-2:29 mark and see what he says about the cannon. Was he saying something about pivoting the system front to back for the beam cannon or was he joking around? From what I can hear, he says that as a weapons container, the type of weapon can be changed. A beam cannon can be equipped or a missile pod can be equipped. He wanted to create a very flexible/customizable system. Edited November 3, 2013 by Actar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
typhoon Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Love that fighter pic!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Valkyrie Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 WOW ! what a beautiful Valkyrie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyp Durron Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Looks good, but dat tiny vert stab connection. Very sexy fighter mode. And that v stab looks fragile. Come on guys, we've known about that sine we first saw this thing in posted in game pictures and when the first prototype was shown as well. It will be fine, I'm sure. But what really gets to me, is the fact that once again Bandai shows that they're capable of tampo printing EVERY GODDAMNED THING, EVEN "NO STEPS", but Arcadia...? Well, we get not only NO progress in that area with the VF-1's, but we now GET ONE LESS marking. I've said it before, and I'll say it again...THERE'S NO EXCUSE NOT TO TAMPO PRINT EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!! /End of Rant -Kyp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YF-29 Durandal Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Maybe Arcadia doesn't know how to tampo print? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie addict Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Fighter looks great, but I can't tell what's happening with that mess behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmkjr Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 From what I can hear, he says that as a weapons container, the type of weapon can be changed. A beam cannon can be equipped or a missile pod can be equipped. He wanted to create a very flexible/customizable system. Thank you for the translation. For a minute I thought he meant one way for missiles, the other for beam cannon. lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izzyfcuk Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skullmilitia Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Must have fighter now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzgundam010 Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 I am guessing that the Missile Container can be folded behind the back in battroid if desired since that part is movable and form part of the back in gerwalk and fighter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Based on the images, not quite. The cockpit and nose of the fighter protrude from the rear in Battroid and block the area the Missile Block normally occupies in Gerwalk and Fighter mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon18 Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 I just had a second look at the CAD images too... ^ beaten to it.. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reïvaj Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Come on guys, we've known about that sine we first saw this thing in posted in game pictures and when the first prototype was shown as well. It will be fine, I'm sure. But what really gets to me, is the fact that once again Bandai shows that they're capable of tampo printing EVERY GODDAMNED THING, EVEN "NO STEPS", but Arcadia...? Well, we get not only NO progress in that area with the VF-1's, but we now GET ONE LESS marking. I've said it before, and I'll say it again...THERE'S NO EXCUSE NOT TO TAMPO PRINT EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!! /End of Rant -Kyp Well, this is fairly OT but I want to say I've got the Arcadia VF-1J 30th Anniversario and it has a huge amount of high quality tampo printing + decals + stickers. I think Arcadia DO know how to do it, so I can't imagine either why they wouldn't in the future. Based on the images, not quite. The cockpit and nose of the fighter protrude from the rear in Battroid and block the area the Missile Block normally occupies in Gerwalk and Fighter mode. I'm afraid you're right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptormesh Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 I'll probably just get one and leave it in fighter mode, and wait for repaints if any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VF-15 Banshee Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 The official specs don't seem to indicate how many missiles the container weapon system holds. I would imagine, if for nothing else but the sake of a glorious Itano Circus, that they would stuff as many Budweiser missiles in there as possible. In the game the Chronos can pump out an insane amount of missiles for its Special Attack. Here's the write-up I did on the specs with thanks to SebastianP and ivory sniper. Based on Mr. March's format. Equipment Type: variable fighter Government: Strategic Military Services (SMS) Manufacturer: Shinsei Industry/SMS Ouroboros Branch/L.A.I. Introduction: 2060 Operational Deployment: 2060 Accommodation: pilot plus passenger Dimensions: Battroid Mode: (?) Fighter Mode: wingspan 15.65; height 4.02 meters; length 18.84 meters. GERWALK Mode: unknown. Mass: empty 8.10 metric tons. Structure: assumed space metal frame, SWAG energy converting armor Power Plant: two Shinsei Industry/ P&W/ RR FF-3001-FC2 Stage II thermonuclear reaction turbine engines. Propulsion: 2 x 2,110 kN (maximum thrust in space); many x P&W HMM-9 High maneuverability thrusters Thrust-to-weight ratio: ~53.12 Performance: Fighter Mode: at 10,000 m Mach 5.3+, maximum speed due to heat-resistance limit of the fuselage. Maximum Airframe Design Load: (?) Design Features: 3-mode variable transformation; delta wing; boundary layer control (BLC); capable of attaining unassisted orbital velocity over an Earth-class planet; ISC (Inertia Store Converter): Shinsei Industry Macross Frontier Arsenal / LAI Company self-development specification ISC/TO22; Fold Dimensional Resonance System; active stealth system antennae; chaff/flare/smoke discharger system; thrust reverser equipped with three-dimensional maneuvering nozzles; cockpit designed for EX-Gear equipped pilot; integrated radar (mounted in nose); linear actuators (provide faster electromagnetic transformation without contact between moving parts). - Armament - Guns: 2 x fixed Mauler RÖV-127 coaxial 12.7mm beam guns (mounted center dorsal section in Fighter/GERWALK mode, becomes head turret in Battroid mode) 1 x Howard/LAI HPB-01A Heavy Quantum Beam gun pod (mounted ventral fuselage in Fighter mode, in arm manipulator for GERWALK/Battroid modes) 1 x Ka-Bar OTEC AK/VF-M9 Assault Knife, 1.65m, super strong material reinforced by pin-point barrier system (mounted under left arm block) 1 x pin-point barrier system Bombs & Missiles: At least x2 Bifors micro-missile launchers (mounted in engine nacelles/legs; animation for this can be seen in-game) Container Weapon System x1 (micro-missile configuration) Optional Armament: CWS beam cannon x1 (not seen in-game, mentioned) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wm cheng Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Wow!!! Love that fighter mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DantonVZ Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 oh my god, the SMS again .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrentonx Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Naturally, fighter mode is amazing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miriya Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Looks great! I want to see more battroid photos though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacrossJunkie Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 So I wonder if they have designed the pod to be detachable and plan to include a beam cannon pod or something with it or have a separate weapon set that would have one. Although I'm not sure what other options they could include with it. It doesn't seem like there are any underwing hard points. I guess the most likely scenario is that they will just make that missile pod permanently attached and not have other loadouts available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scream Man Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Official photos won't be far behind now, I'll be surprised if we don't see them by the end of November. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest davidwhangchoi Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 props charger for getting this to us. is this BAT's photo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger69 Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 No it's not. Random find from a chinese forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacrossJunkie Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Hard to tell in the photos but I hope the white will be more of an off-white like the DYRL VF-1s. The white "YF-30" printed on the rear stabilizers is hard to see, but the lighting in the photos isn't helping much. It's like the markings on the 30th anniversary "Focker" YF-29. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skullmilitia Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 It's funny we're critiquing what's essentially a pirated photo. I'm not talking about any improvements or comments on the model Until there's official pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechaninac Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Hard to tell in the photos but I hope the white will be more of an off-white like the DYRL VF-1s. If they make it the same off white as what they used on the VF-171EX Alto, that would be just fine too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacrossJunkie Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 It's funny we're critiquing what's essentially a pirated photo. I'm not talking about any improvements or comments on the model Until there's official pictures. Where's the fun in staying silent? Half the fun is to speculate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skullmilitia Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 It's just crap cell phone pics taken against the rules. We don't even have clear pictures to antagonize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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