Bandai DX YF-30 Chronos

[Dimis]

How many customs are we going to get you think? Surely it can't be just one... :-) Personally i want everything in drab cannon fodder colors. (Especially those garish VF-27 and YF-29)

[raptormesh]

They should have added another hinge or redesign the wing root one so that it folds inwards in battroid mode. You know we could have some fun with the multimission module. Speaker pods, sword scabbards, toy valk collection storage...

[Reïvaj]

Maybe I'm just seeing things, but I think I see hard points on the arms. BTW, I think the gunpod looks identical to the one on the YF-29. can you swap that gunpod with the VF-25's gunpod and vice versa?

There are two parts of the underside of the wings that fold over the forearms, which is why we see the hard points there.

[danth]

Is that missile pack totally useless in fighter mode? Or does it fold out somehow?

[Falcon18]

It folds into the area where the arms and shield used to be for the VF-25s in between the legs in fighter mode. The arms are now under the wings. The lego transformation video has a better view of this.

It has limited use in fighter. Probably pops out but only on low speeds. Someone's who played game could confirm this.

[wmkjr]

Here's a pic:

http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/ae23/ultimatekuuga21/TOYNEWS2013/MACROSS2013/YF-30_CHRONOS_13.jpg

[Reïvaj]

Gappiest valk ever!

[miriya]

Am I the only one who likes the battroid mode on this better than the fighter?

[Sandman]

A bit clearer

Transformation sequence is really interesting: Nose cone is facing back and cockpit stays almost horizontal on battroid mode...

What? No Crotch thrust???

[skullmilitia]

Damn clown feet!

[Guest davidwhangchoi]

Am I the only one who likes the battroid mode on this better than the fighter?

yes, jk but it looks really fragile and back heavy in battroid and more streamlined in fighter

Edited October 24, 2013 by davidwhangchoi

[skullmilitia]

yes, jk but it looks really fragile and back heavy in battroid and more streamlined in fighter

Not to mention that missile rack will need Viagra after using the joint once to keep it up.

[Mommar]

Am I the only one who likes the battroid mode on this better than the fighter?

I don't like it better. In theory this could be one of my top Battroid Modes but that depends on how everything actually works in practice. If it weren't for the gaps and giant Gundam wings on the back I'd say this is one of the more sturdy looking, soldier-type Valks.

[VF5SS]

It folds into the area where the arms and shield used to be for the VF-25s in between the legs in fighter mode. The arms are now under the wings. The lego transformation video has a better view of this.

It has limited use in fighter. Probably pops out but only on low speeds. Someone's who played game could confirm this.

When you're in fighter or Gerwalk mode it pops up if you switch to rapid launch missiles. Otherwise it stays down. The YF-29 does the same thing with its back cannons.

[Newtype78]

I really want to like the Battroid mode more but the missile rack and how the wings are composed just don't look good to me. That being said, I do like the way that the lower legs look more "classic" VF in design with a more robust look to them.

[Valkyrie addict]

Just realized that the missile launcher is the middle fuselage and the supporting hinge looks very weak for such a long piece. Bandai has to do a lot of work if they don't want this to be a floppy unbalanced mess.

[xrentonx]

Give me optional weapons modules and I'm even better than good. Don't change a thing, Kawamori! ...except maybe the color to low viz

Edited October 24, 2013 by xrentonx

[3D-Brainx]

I hope that missile launcher has some gimmick on it. Or it will became "the big heavy thing on the back"

[Guest davidwhangchoi]

having owned MG Strike Freedom and ~Justice... i'm skeptical this will be able to stand on it's own looking at the CAD.

Perhaps this will be the valk that competes with the 171 cf as the "keep it in fighter" toy

Edited October 24, 2013 by davidwhangchoi

[MacrossJunkie]

Where does the gunpod store in fighter mode on this thing, btw?
I'm looking at the underside and the area you would normally expect it to attach is entirely made up of the missile box, so it seems like the gunpod would be either attached much more forward or somewhere on the side.

having owned MG Strike Freedom and ~Justice... i'm skeptical this will be able to stand on it's own looking at the CAD.

Perhaps this will be the valk that competes with the 171 cf as the "keep it in fighter" toy

If there was ever a valk that looked back heavy and seemed like it would have a hard time standing, it would have either been the VF-25 with full armour or the VF-4. Neither of those have any issues standing up. The wings and missile launcher box on this thing look comparatively light so I think there won't be any balance problems at all.

Edited October 24, 2013 by MacrossJunkie

[xrentonx]

I hope that missile launcher has some gimmick on it. Or it will became "the big heavy thing on the back"

I wonder what it looks like tucked...ewww

[Guest davidwhangchoi]

i'm still skeptical. i own both 2x 4gs and the 25 S and F armors parts (2x 25F) and it is somewhat balanced with the weight distributed to the legs but still tipsy (w/ the armor on the legs.)

i don't see it because the length of the wings. and the missile rack extending behind and high above his head is wider in length than the shoulders of the body. similar to infinite justice (which needs a stand). maybe not as much mass as infinite justice's pack, but enough to make me have doubts it can stand. but you could be correct that it is light enough i'm open to see how bandai goes about it when the resin prototype mold is revealed.

Edited October 24, 2013 by davidwhangchoi

[zulu]

I'm going to be patient and wait for version 2.0 to come out. It seems like Bandai has a consistent history of rushing their first batch (ie. Frontier series) then realizing all the improvements they should have made by releasing 2.0. Anybody else feel this way?

[raptormesh]

having owned MG Strike Freedom and ~Justice... i'm skeptical this will be able to stand on it's own looking at the CAD.

Perhaps this will be the valk that competes with the 171 cf as the "keep it in fighter" toy

Huh I thought the 171CF's battroid is the best so far out of all frontier valks.

[Falconkpd]

Take my money, Bandai.

[ArchieNov]

i'm still skeptical. i own both 2x 4gs and the 25 S and F armors parts (2x 25F) and it is somewhat balanced with the weight distributed to the legs but still tipsy (w/ the armor on the legs.)

i don't see it because the length of the wings. and the missile rack extending behind and high above his head is wider in length than the shoulders of the body. similar to infinite justice (which needs a stand). maybe not as much mass as infinite justice's pack, but enough to make me have doubts it can stand. but you could be correct that it is light enough i'm open to see how bandai goes about it when the resin prototype mold is revealed.

I don't think the DX will have any problems standing upright. These toys usually have metal in the feet or legs to keep the weight distributed more to the base of the feet.

The reason MG model kits can be so back heavy is because it's basically all made of the same plastic. So the more plastic there is towards the back, the more the center of gravity shifts to that area.

Comparatively, the Metal Build Freedom Gundam has no issues standing upright while the Robot Damashii version requires a stand to keep it from falling over backwards.

But similar to the others, I do wish the wings could've folded up more.

[Guest davidwhangchoi]

Huh I thought the 171CF's battroid is the best so far out of all frontier valks.

IF it can make it to battroid

[TCracker]

hmmm....what if the missile pod hinge is die cast?

[Zinjo]

I'm gonna hold out for the Hasegawa kit.

If I can't get an official VF-24 with a delta wing, this is an acceptable substitute

[anime52k8]

I like everything about it in every mode. Only things I don't like are that my VF-25F will look really lacking next to it if I get this in hand before a set of Renewal tornado armor, and the "alto" scheme for the YF-29 looks TOO different from this and the VF-25F IMO.

I'd like a YF-29 30th anniversary with all the yellow replaced by red, and a red/white/black Hikaru DYRL VF-27 30th anniversary repaint then I can have ALL the frontier valks in DYRL Hikaru colors.

[Dax415]

Game image of the YF-30 in 3 modes:

And a cleaner shot of the fighter:

Note the really unique FAST pack on top of battroid mode. More info here:

http://blog.yahoo.co...es/689978/index

I'm probably alone in my thinking, but the frontier valks remind me of the metal siren from Macross II

[zzgundam010]

I'm going to be patient and wait for version 2.0 to come out. It seems like Bandai has a consistent history of rushing their first batch (ie. Frontier series) then realizing all the improvements they should have made by releasing 2.0. Anybody else feel this way?

But what if they don't do a re-issue? I can't take that chance.

[xrentonx]

I don't see it personally. I have a great dislike for the Siren and I do love me some Frontier Valks.

[sketchley]

I agree with you. It often seems that newer designs are the way they are merely to come up with something different. Which i can appreciate, certainly, but the fragile positions that the wings are in do detract from the visual aesthetic a little imo.

I think it's the limitations of the medium Kawamori-san has been recently using to design these things - Lego.

Of all the VFs that I know of that he's designed with Lego, the wings don't fold away, and stick out from the back (the SV-51, the VF-25 series (YF-24, VF-25, VF-27, VF-29), and now this one (even though I haven't seen the Lego model of it, given Kawamori-san's sentiments on using Lego to design Valkyries, it's doubtful that he didn't come up with the design without using Lego)).

[VF5SS]

He designed both the VF-17 and VF-19 in Lego as well. Probably the Fz-109 too.