apolloneo Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Oh, forgot to mention, the early design of JSF also considered canard but it only has one turbo engin... probably this one is the most likely one... that will make "some ones" feel better... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzmaLee74 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Honestly, who cares. It looks cool *runs away* Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrentonx Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Sorry, still don't see it. I mean just the position of the engines alone and the fact that we know Kawamori is all about Sukhoi... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 (edited) I don't know why people are getting all worked up about what real plane a fake plane looks like. Leon: What manner o' thing is your YF-30? Mina: It is shap'd, sir, like itself, and it is as broad as it hath breadth; it is just as high as it is, and moves with its own engines. It flies by that which fuel it, and the elements once out of it, it explodes. Leon: What color is it of? Mina: Of its own color too. Leon: 'Tis a strange valkyrie. Mina: 'Tis so. And the missiles of it are missiley. Edited March 28, 2013 by Chronocidal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrentonx Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Heheh...don't know if anyone is really worked up. I just wanna read more stuff in the YF-30 thread. Wish there was more info out there. Plus that T-50 is dreamy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skullmilitia Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 hopefully it's easier to obtain th.. it won't, it's Ban-die also just realize.. xrentonx your a frequent 3A forum poster. I'm like I ust saw that avatar 5 mins ago, well duh, it's the same poster too. ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrentonx Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Yeah, that's me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apolloneo Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 It seems we lost the focus on YF-30... but again for my personal view... J20 is awesome... T-50 is worth its salt AKA raptorsky... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reïvaj Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 In any case, the YF-30 is the one I like best of the three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Mancini Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 I don't know why people are getting all worked up about what real plane a fake plane looks like. Yeah, nobody is getting worked up that I see. We're just discussing the YF-30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Mancini Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Sorry, still don't see it. I mean just the position of the engines alone and the fact that we know Kawamori is all about Sukhoi... Characteristics that resemble the T-50: -Position of engines -Tail boom Characteristics that resemble the J-20: -Delta wings -Canards -Lack of tailerons -Overall proportions Perhaps the lack of tailerons shouldn't count, (since that's a Macross staple), but I think the J-20 still has more defining characteristics in common with the YF-30 than the T-50 even without mentioning that trait. And what does liking Sukhoi designs have to do with anything? We all like Sukhoi designs. They are pretty planes, no doubt about it. But that doesn't mean Kawamori has never designed any VFs after planes that weren't Sukhoi. The VF-1/0 was a Tomcat. The YF-21 was a Black Widow. The VF-17 was a Nighthawk. The VF-14 was a BlackBird. The VA-3 was an Intruder. VF-5000 was a Raptor. Etc...etc... Not all his designs are inspired by Sukhoi. Most of them aren't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrentonx Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Characteristics that resemble the T-50: -Position of engines -Tail boom Characteristics that resemble the J-20: -Delta wings -Canards -Lack of tailerons -Overall proportions Perhaps the lack of tailerons shouldn't count, (since that's a Macross staple), but I think the J-20 still has more defining characteristics in common with the YF-30 than the T-50 even without mentioning that trait. And what does liking Sukhoi designs have to do with anything? We all like Sukhoi designs. They are pretty planes, no doubt about it. But that doesn't mean Kawamori has never designed any VFs after planes that weren't Sukhoi. The VF-1/0 was a Tomcat. The YF-21 was a Black Widow. The VF-17 was a Nighthawk. The VF-14 was a BlackBird. The VA-3 was an Intruder. VF-5000 was a Raptor. Etc...etc... Not all his designs are inspired by Sukhoi. Most of them aren't. I still think the overall proportions resemble the T-50 more. Just look at where the wing starts for example on the leading edge. The J-20 starts further back and the trailing edge ends further back. Yeah...I know a lot of his other designs are inspired by other planes that are not Sukhoi. Didn't say that Sukhoi was the only designs he draws from. This one in particular screams Sukhoi to me. Agree to disagree, I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptormesh Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Characteristics that resemble the J-20: -Delta wings -Canards -Lack of tailerons -Overall proportions Same could be said of a Rafale and a Typhoon, save perhaps the last one. The J-20 looks like an elongated box with wings, there's more to comparing just the top down planview. I agree with what you said about Kawamori being very varied with his source of inspiration though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrentonx Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Did we ever get a nice direct view of the front, rear, and profile of the yf-30? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tochiro Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Rotate it in hangar view and take a pic of the screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Just have a look at the various DX profiles on the first page of this topic. There's a perfect sideview comparison to be made at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrentonx Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Yeah, close enough. Slim and sexy in profile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 That's the thing, right? I saw the pics from the game and though it looked stupid. Then I saw those prototype's of the DX and completely changed my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrentonx Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 The color scheme from the game isn't doing it any favors for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptormesh Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 The color scheme from the game isn't doing it any favors for sure. Which is why I've always preferred cannon fodder versions of any valk. Less "Look! I'm a pretty butterfly!". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reïvaj Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duymon Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 srsly.. nobody has posted stuff like this. Crappy cell-phone pics () Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechaninac Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 self-described crapy pictures aside, that such a pretty bird. Thank you for posting. Come on Bandai, let's see some new pictures of the 3D CAD, like you've been doing with your new 1/72 VF-1 kit, or an actual prototype model that's further along in the development process... please... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightCastle Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Man! Those are some nice pics. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edi Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 After looking over the photos, I can definitely say I want one (or two!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrentonx Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 That's what we were waiting for! I have the game but my PS3 is busted so thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reïvaj Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 I really like the colour scheme. I don't like the gerwalk mode very much but whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UN Spacy Posted March 30, 2013 Author Share Posted March 30, 2013 IN for the crashing of Amiami...and three second windows at Hobby Search to get this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 I really like the colour scheme. I don't like the gerwalk mode very much but whatever. With that missile box deployed that may well be the MOST gappy gerwalk of any Valk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptormesh Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I really like the colour scheme. I don't like the gerwalk mode very much but whatever. Yeah the gerwalk mode seems really silly, wish the rear fuselage would be able to collapse in like the -21, it's way too long. This is probably heresy but I'm fine with a fighter mode only model/toy for this bird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ah_t00t Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I am afraid in gerwalk mode the back would be the most heavy making the stance unbearable if the missile pods are left behind on the back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lechuck Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 srsly.. nobody has posted stuff like this. Crappy cell-phone pics ( ) Pictures right up to Gerwalk, but none for Battroid - that is very hurtful of you Duymon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anime52k8 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Not liking the giant missile box, or the tail fins; but otherwise it's kind of cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I could sit here and say that I have reservations on Gerwalk mode but I also REALLy hated the VF-17 Gerwalk and the 17S head but after buying a few of the toys and seeing/being able to manipulate them in 3D it's very well possible I'll have none of those issues. I'd rather cheer-lead Bandai actually making one (or more with better/different color schemes.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duymon Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 (edited) Pictures right up to Gerwalk, but none for Battroid - that is very hurtful of you Duymon Because Battroid sucks and you never used battroid in Macross 30 anyways. Seriously I already finished the game on ultimate I know Edited March 31, 2013 by Duymon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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