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Hate is one of the few things that separates us from "the animals". I say, embrace it.

EMPEROR PALPATINE: you want this... i can feel it, the hate is swelling within you... take your lightsaber, strike me down with it. GIVE IN TO YOUR ANGER...

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EMPEROR PALPATINE: you want this... i can feel it, the hate is swelling within you... take your lightsaber, strike me down with it. GIVE IN TO YOUR ANGER...

Can't I strike him down without giving in to anger? Seems like a pretty justifiable move, to me.

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But that is not the Jedi way. Remember: Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering.

Why can't it be that suffering leads to anger, and anger leads to hate? Or, doesn't hate lead to anger as well, and that leads to suffering, or hate leada to suffering, and suffering leads to anger? Damn you, Yoda, for all your confusing talk.

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This sounds like some sort of riddle that they'd have to solve in order to find where he is lost in space.

Great...now they're gonna comb the Star Wars Blu-ray looking for RT clues....

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Great...now they're gonna comb the Star Wars Blu-ray looking for RT clues....

Yeah well, its thanks to The Phantom Menace that we finally know where David Bowman from 2001 ended up (see his space pod next to Watto on the right of this frame), so why not look for Rick Hunter too.....?

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Wow, I never saw that! There it is! All the way from Jupiter's orbit...

Long before it was ever even constructed to boot.

More seriously - is that pod a re-creation, or did they find one of the original props somewhere (from 2010 I guess, I heard that they destroyed all the props from 2001 so they would not be used over and over in cheap scifi movies like other old starship props had been - look what happened to Lost in Space's robot for example)

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Yeah well, its thanks to The Phantom Menace that we finally know where David Bowman from 2001 ended up (see his space pod next to Watto on the right of this frame), so why not look for Rick Hunter too.....?

The SDF-3 in Watto's junkyard?!?! The secret revealed!

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About that, to me it's pretty messed up that MEMO, a "big name" in the fandom, is acting as a sort of intermediary between you two, a.k.a. an enabler. He's acting like an idiot hoping it's going to be a stimulating, fair and balanced conversation when the talkshoe podcast, and also his own two to be honest, never is. It's just going to be this for an hour or two for a stupid TV show:

Don't blame him...I've got no way to get in touch with Bendo, considering he's been banned from every forum around, and so I specifically ASKED Memo to get in touch with him for me.

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The only issue with this the "conversation", is that bendo was told the day that Gubaba can't do it, due to work, timeframe, or whatever, and that's the one time that he's picked. It's a very passive aggressive way of skirting the confrontation, and a diluted way to make him feel like he's won some imaginary battle. What makes it even more funny, is the fact that most people without the "issues" he has, can see through that. I wonder if he thought we wouldn't.

What can I say? Bendo's been crying ever since he begged me to go on his show a few years ago. I finally give him the chance of lifetime, and he's too frightened to take it.

Guess he prefers talking to empty room instead of to other people...'cause talking to other people would remind him of how much better they are than he is... :lol:

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What can I say? Bendo's been crying ever since he begged me to go on his show a few years ago. I finally give him the chance of lifetime, and he's too frightened to take it.

Guess he prefers talking to empty room instead of to other people...'cause talking to other people would remind him of how much better they are than he is... :lol:

Don't you see it? There's a conspiracy here. You actually went to Japan and brought Robotech items over there, telling everyone there that they were actually Macross items from the US, in hopes of making the Macross fandom even bigger over there. You then photoshopped the Robotech ad with Alto, gave it to Jason who flew to Canada to display it up at FanExpo, in the hopes of converting recently emigrated Japanese-Canadians to Macross, since that's all they'll have known because of you.

Why you won't go on his show to admit that is beyond me.

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How is it no one remembers Thundersub!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYIWV4m_Dk4

took me 5 mins to figure what this clip was from, via Wiki... i could have spent that time on Youporn instead. derp. Horrible dub, LoL..

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Don't you see it? There's a conspiracy here. ...

So what is is now....Bendo-ver just sees conspiracies all over the place? It's us Macross-purists/trolls/4chan anons/blah blah blah keeping Robotech-brother down? :rolleyes:

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What can I say? Bendo's been crying ever since he begged me to go on his show a few years ago. I finally give him the chance of lifetime, and he's too frightened to take it.

Guess he prefers talking to empty room instead of to other people...'cause talking to other people would remind him of how much better they are than he is... :lol:

Don't you see it? There's a conspiracy here. You actually went to Japan and brought Robotech items over there, telling everyone there that they were actually Macross items from the US, in hopes of making the Macross fandom even bigger over there. You then photoshopped the Robotech ad with Alto, gave it to Jason who flew to Canada to display it up at FanExpo, in the hopes of converting recently emigrated Japanese-Canadians to Macross, since that's all they'll have known because of you.

Why you won't go on his show to admit that is beyond me.

So what is is now....Bendo-ver just sees conspiracies all over the place? It's us Macross-purists/trolls/4chan anons/blah blah blah keeping Robotech-brother down? :rolleyes:

Maybe dougbendo is the Nigerian prince who needs funds to get bank transfers started. Hence the reason why he's so busy and can't Gubaba to get on his show.

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So what is is now....Bendo-ver just sees conspiracies all over the place? It's us Macross-purists/trolls/4chan anons/blah blah blah keeping Robotech-brother down? :rolleyes:

I think the fact that Bendo believed that Jason created the Robotech Alto print ad, with the sole purpose of converting Robotech fans into Macross fans so that he could win his imaginary war was proof enough.

But Bendo is an all out nut, looking for any and every reason behind everything. For example:

-When he asked me why I didn't blog about Robotech anymore, I told him that I gave it up because I'm too busy going out, meeting women, and having fun. He somehow morphed that and started to refer to me on his podcast as a mid-40's guy who has an alcohol problem who consistently date-rapes women. I'm being serious. Later, it was stated that I was attempting to get him to stand down from being the king of Robotech and that I was attempting regain my old glory, after telling him not to take this stuff too seriously. He saw me post on some message boards and created a scenario in his head.

-When he asked Tom Bateman about the leaked Shadow Rising outline, Tom took the high road and didn't talk about it. Suddenly Tom and Jason were the one who wrote it and released it based solely on the fact that a) Tom never denied writing it (which he did) and b) It sounded too much like a Macross story, thus they wrote it. I think he did a two and a half hour show about it that.

-And going back to the Alto ad - as soon as that got out there, Bendo did a podcast on it, and how Macross fans were secretly trying to infiltrate Robotech fans. Thinking it was the most f*cked up thing I had ever heard from him, I called Jason to laugh about it. Jason then said he'd mess with him by posting that he did it, but did it rather sarcastically. Bendo THEN did ANOTHER show about this, talking about how he was right, and how Jason's sarcasm was his way of fearing legal repercussions.

These are just a few examples. Bendo doesn't have a whole lot going for him in life (I know, I've looked into it). This imaginary war between Macross and Robotech fans is all he really has. He has to bend and contort everything that he sees into something really, really serious to give it meaning - to basically give his real life some meaning. The fact that he really believes that he has 6,000 lessoners only intensifies his delusions.

So to answer your question, yes. Bendo is the king of conspiracies. And yes, he is a fan of Glenn Beck.

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The effort to have a fair conversation doesn't seem to be worth it. It wasn't worth it back in '08, it isn't worth it in '11, especially when Robotech hasn't gone anywhere during that time. Maybe next year when there could be something significant to talk about the franchise (maybe). He is, after all, just a very, very, very, very, very small drop in the bucket of the Internet.

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I don't think he ever really believed that...I think he just wanted to convince others that it was true.

I think it's more self-denial than anything. He sounds pretty confident on his show that he actually has that amount of lessoners, but he probably doesn't want to think too hard about the fact that almost no one actually listens live, nor does he get a pouring in of emails. It's like a when someone suspects their spouse of cheating, but pretends everything is a-ok.

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I think it's more self-denial than anything. He sounds pretty confident on his show that he actually has that amount of lessoners, but he probably doesn't want to think too hard about the fact that almost no one actually listens live, nor does he get a pouring in of emails. It's like a when someone suspects their spouse of cheating, but pretends everything is a-ok.

Maybe he has 6000 cats aka lessoners.

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Even the most rabid side of fandoms don't even come close the the lunatic fringe of Rowbotech.

Now I've always been a fan of Robotech, but there are some full-on loons in the fandom. We can't forget the guy who spent literally his last dollar on a trip to Anime Expo to pie Tommy in the face. Then there was a guy on the RDF HQ message board who was convinced that Tommy's portrayal of Vince Grant in the Shadow Chronicles was Tommy's way of getting back a the African-Americans who looted Korean owned stores during the LA Riots in the early 90's. And let's not forget the fan who was so obsessed that he BS'ed that he was a producer and worked so hard to land a job at Harmony Gold, that he could have been a real entertainment professional had he put in half the effort.

Back when I had my old blog years ago, I got some whacky emails from people with long-winded theories about crap I didn't even understand. My only guess is that Robotech attracts the crazies because it's the type of story that one has to analyze and theorize about in order to make sense, since it was cobbled together from three unrelated sources and had a lot of holes in its stories. 99% of people would just shrug that kind of thing off and enjoy it, while the 1% of whackos would obsess about it.

But to be honest, one of the reasons I was posting about Bendo and the whackiness that ensues for the past few days was because I know he reads this board and would probably do a show about it, which he records every Friday. So yeah, while I was offering an honest analysis, I was also trolling the troll. I'll knock it off now.

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