alchemo Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Thanks everyone for liking the photos. One little thing I want to ask Graham I have strugled a bit with the hip joint the first time I transform it into B mode and now the two sides can be pull quite far apart and can swing pretty loosely back and forth when they are. Did I break something? They are still pretty tight only swing a bit when pushed in. It is normal that the joint was allow to swing a little bit when lowered to the position for the B-mode and pushed in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UN Spacy Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Whoa...my VF-17 has already cleared customs two days ago. Hopefully it arrives today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Thanks everyone for liking the photos. One little thing I want to ask Graham I have strugled a bit with the hip joint the first time I transform it into B mode and now the two sides can be pull quite far apart and can swing pretty loosely back and forth when they are. Did I break something? They are still pretty tight only swing a bit when pushed in. It is normal that the joint was allow to swing a little bit when lowered to the position for the B-mode and pushed in? Yes, that is normal. The hip joint pulls out on both sides so you can swing it from fighter (upper) to battroid (lower) position. When you push both sides of the hip joint back in, in battroid mode, there will still be some movement, but not much. Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchemo Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 (edited) Yes, that is normal. The hip joint pulls out on both sides so you can swing it from fighter (upper) to battroid (lower) position. When you push both sides of the hip joint back in, in battroid mode, there will still be some movement, but not much. Graham Thanks! This thing really looks better in live then in photos! Now begins the long wait for VF-17D and Milia's VF-17S Edited January 5, 2012 by alchemo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Yes, that is normal. The hip joint pulls out on both sides so you can swing it from fighter (upper) to battroid (lower) position. When you push both sides of the hip joint back in, in battroid mode, there will still be some movement, but not much. Graham To be honest I think that's a bad design. It's way too easy to pop those hip joints back out when you're posing it in Battroid. Even the little give when they're popped in makes it feel like it's not quite as stable as it could be too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knoted Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 (edited) To be honest I think that's a bad design. If it provides the thighlegs a bit more lateral movement/rotation, it might be a plus actually....considering the hip rotations of the 1/60 VF1 are too limited, imo. Edited January 5, 2012 by knoted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reïvaj Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 To be honest I think that's a bad design. [...] That’s exactly what I was thinking about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 If it provides the thighlegs a bit more lateral movement/rotation, it might be a plus actually. ...considering the hip rotations of the 1/60 VF1 are too limited, imo. If you pop them out you do get more lateral movement. With them set in you get pretty much none. So often times for wider stances they will be popped out. However, it comes at the cost of being less stable. It's not going to cause the toy to fall over but it's a real pain when you're trying to adjust the leg and instead the hip just shifts forward and back a little. Actually, that was the exact same problem you could have with the VF1 prior to fixing the crotch lock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Oh, one other issue. Not like it's a hard one to fix but something that seems pretty easy to get right. The two gun barrels that are mounted next to the Cockpit in F/G and in the chest in Battroid just flat out fell off. They just barely hold on. Dabbing a bit of glue fixes this easy but... it's kind of an easy thing to get right and there's no reason why a $300 toy wouldn't have them attached tight to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VF5SS Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Ok let's be honest here. There is absolutely nothing you can do to justify spending any amount of money on an import diecast and plastic toy of a character from a 1994 anime all about advertising J-pop. nothing~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechaninac Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 If you feel the need to justify your particular insanity, you've chosen the wrong insanity to have... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reïvaj Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 QFT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Ok let's be honest here. There is absolutely nothing you can do to justify spending any amount of money on an import diecast and plastic toy of a character from a 1994 anime all about advertising J-pop. nothing~ Who are you referring to exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derex3592 Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 (edited) Ok let's be honest here. There is absolutely nothing you can do to justify spending any amount of money on an import diecast and plastic toy of a character from a 1994 anime all about advertising J-pop. nothing~ This guy needs some serious BOMMMBBBAAA!!!! here ya go buddy....listen to his SONG! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrJbONBSy5A Edited January 6, 2012 by derex3592 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VF-18S Hornet Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 skull_leader001 asked for the Mighty Block #1, the ones you bought are the #2. One of their colour versions is still available at Yamato’s site: http://www.yamato-toys.com/items/detail.php?gid=1322 I haven't that one but I can offer you this one: Source: The really nice gamu-toys' review: http://gamu-toys.info/goukin/yamato/vf17sd/vf17sd01.html http://gamu-toys.info/goukin/yamato/vf17sd/vf17sd02.html Holy cow it's bigger than the VF-19 in battriod mode, was there some scaleing issue? I thought that 17 was a tad smaller than the VF-19. Anyway as predicted HLJ finally got around to shipping my package off Today, it says it will be in by the estimated date Jan 12 next week, which is a Thursday. And it's the day I have to go my second job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchemo Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 IMO if the legs and can be a bit shorter, the wings, the back and the shoulders a bit smaller, then B mode would look even more accurate, and will not do much harm to the other two mode. As in fighter mode the wings are a little longer then what depict in line arts. However if that is possible in terms of incorporating the transforamation mechanism I don't know I admit I am spoiled by what they hae done with VF-19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reïvaj Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 The legs can’t be any shorter because they are nearly as long as the whole valk in fighter mode. The wings are exactly as long as in the line art. See the picture below: The VF-19 has spoiled us all, but I guess sometimes reality can’t beat anime magic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UN Spacy Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Darn...I got a little impatient. There wasn't enough room and the back of the shoulder rubbed into the arm cannon. Anyone know what shade of gray this is for Testors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugimon Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 why is that part even painted in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reïvaj Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 why is that part even painted in the first place? I think to remember Mr. K mentioned this somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenius Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 The legs can’t be any shorter because they are nearly as long as the whole valk in fighter mode. The wings are exactly as long as in the line art. See the picture below: I don't have mine yet but don't the legs already feature a mechanism in th knee for extending in fighter and retracting for battroid? If there's already one way the legs shrink going from one mode to the next, there's almost certianly a way to design them shrinking more... the question is, as always, what would need to be compromised to accomplish this. Maybe they could have tried some crazy contraption like CM's' approach to the Legioss leg... but in reverse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger69 Posted January 6, 2012 Author Share Posted January 6, 2012 BAT's flickr images Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VF5SS Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 If you want the VF-19 to be roughly as tall as the VF-17 you can just leave the hips on the VF-19 unretracted or extend the locomotive knee joints a bit. Those parts are just there for aesthetics anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reïvaj Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 I don't have mine yet but don't the legs already feature a mechanism in th knee for extending in fighter and retracting for battroid? If there's already one way the legs shrink going from one mode to the next, there's almost certianly a way to design them shrinking more... the question is, as always, what would need to be compromised to accomplish this. Maybe they could have tried some crazy contraption like CM's' approach to the Legioss leg... but in reverse. You’re right, the legs do extend a little bit in fighter mode but that’s only a few millimetres. If they extended more than that they wouldn’t be able to bend at the knee at all when retracted for battroid mode, not to mention the gun pod storage gimmick wouldn’t have been possible either. As you say it’s all about compromising. The VF-17 is a flying tank and I actually don’t think the massive and menacing battroid mode is bad at all. If you want the VF-19 to be roughly as tall as the VF-17 you can just leave the hips on the VF-19 unretracted or extend the locomotive knee joints a bit. Those parts are just there for aesthetics anyways. You mean like this? It doesn't look bad at all IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reïvaj Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 BAT's flickr images This B_A_T_ guy's pics are always great. Thanks for the link, charger69. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VF5SS Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 You mean like this? It doesn't look bad at all IMO. Yeah exactly. Although you don't need to extend the ankles on both quite that much. I keep the feet pretty deep into the ankles on mine most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reïvaj Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 (edited) Yeah exactly. Although you don't need to extend the ankles on both quite that much. I keep the feet pretty deep into the ankles on mine most of the time. Yeah, me too, it’s just that it was kind of necessary due to the wide A stance (at least for the Kai). Edited January 6, 2012 by Reïvaj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derex3592 Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Darn...I got a little impatient. There wasn't enough room and the back of the shoulder rubbed into the arm cannon. Anyone know what shade of gray this is for Testors? It's very close to Model Master Neutral Grey from the looks of it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mommar Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Darn...I got a little impatient. There wasn't enough room and the back of the shoulder rubbed into the arm cannon. Anyone know what shade of gray this is for Testors? I don't understand how that happened? They slide back into the arm. Any transformation you do requires you slide them back into the arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reïvaj Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Obviously he didn't and it just happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchemo Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 You’re right, the legs do extend a little bit in fighter mode but that’s only a few millimetres. If they extended more than that they wouldn’t be able to bend at the knee at all when retracted for battroid mode, not to mention the gun pod storage gimmick wouldn’t have been possible either. As you say it’s all about compromising. The VF-17 is a flying tank and I actually don’t think the massive and menacing battroid mode is bad at all. You mean like this? It doesn't look bad at all IMO. This way it will be about the same height as the YF-19 also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaginpit Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Holy cow it's bigger than the VF-19 in battriod mode, was there some scaleing issue? I thought that 17 was a tad smaller than the VF-19. Anyway as predicted HLJ finally got around to shipping my package off Today, it says it will be in by the estimated date Jan 12 next week, which is a Thursday. And it's the day I have to go my second job Wow just beautiful Too bad I cant afford it. 300 bucks is a bit steep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightmareB4macross Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 It's amazing of just how tall the VF-17 is in battroid mode, but also high compact a fighter as well. I've always had a strange question about why the VF series started as a large battroid version (VF-0), to a small (VF-1), then to larger scattered sizing of the continued development of all VFs. Would anyone out there know why this is? It just makes no sense at all. Well at least to me, it doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VF5SS Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Officially it's because the VF-0 and Sv-51 both use conventional jet engines which are larger than the VF-1's magic fusion engines. Valkyries are pretty all over the place in terms of size. Just like real fighter jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s001 Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Seriously? Not a single tampo printed marking on a toy that expensive? Sorry, but that is just not ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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