David Hingtgen Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 If you accept that: Su=Sukhoi Tu=Tupolev Me=Messerschmitt, Then Do=Dornier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightmareB4macross Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 (edited) Seeing these race adapted fighters is urging me to do something about it. Just wondering if could someone translate the character sheet for "Magdalena Zielonaska and Nicolas Francoise Berthier". All I'm seeing is VT-1 in the print next to Nicolas. More information is greatly appreciated. Edited January 27, 2011 by nightmareB4macross Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubaba Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Seeing these race adapted fighters is urging me to do something about it. Just wondering if could someone translate the character sheet for "Magdalena Zielonaska and Nicolas Francoise Berthier". All I'm seeing is VT-1 in the print next to Nicolas. More information is greatly appreciated. Just looking over the info and what I can glean without pulling out a dictionary, it looks like Nicolas started flying in a VT-1 at the age of 3. It looks like he's also got an Implant. Aren't they illegal on Frontier...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightmareB4macross Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 At the age of 3??? Thanks for the translation, but does it say anything about what he currently piloting/racing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seto Kaiba Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Just looking over the info and what I can glean without pulling out a dictionary, it looks like Nicolas started flying in a VT-1 at the age of 3. Not quite... if I'm reading this right, he started riding in the back seat of his father's VT-1 at age 3, but he didn't start learning to fly it until he was 8, which is still crazy early. It does appear, from what's written about him on Dengeki Hobby's website, that he has a cybernetically-reinforced body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anime52k8 Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Just looking over the info and what I can glean without pulling out a dictionary, it looks like Nicolas started flying in a VT-1 at the age of 3. It looks like he's also got an Implant. Aren't they illegal on Frontier...? I get the impression (from the show anyways) that the production, sale and installation of cybernetic implants is illegal within the fleet, but a person isn't going to be arrested/kicked out of the fleet if they had them installed outside of the fleet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubaba Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Thanks for the translation, but does it say anything about what he currently piloting/racing? Nothing. Wanna bet it'll be next issue's VF? Not quite... if I'm reading this right, he started riding in the back seat of his father's VT-1 at age 3, but he didn't start learning to fly it until he was 8, which is still crazy early. It does appear, from what's written about him on Dengeki Hobby's website, that he has a cybernetically-reinforced body. Oops. You're right. I get the impression (from the show anyways) that the production, sale and installation of cybernetic implants is illegal within the fleet, but a person isn't going to be arrested/kicked out of the fleet if they had them installed outside of the fleet. Good point...They didn't get rid of Grace or Brera... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger69 Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 (edited) Are we %100 sure that Macross The Ride fighter planes don't have any gunpod? Even if it's a race they can easily have faux gunpods and ammunition just like in training scene from Macross Zero! IMO it would be very cool to have a paintball sequence with faux ammo during the race like a winter biathlon with rifle shooting Edited January 27, 2011 by charger69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubaba Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 (edited) Are we %100 sure that Macross The Ride fighter planes don't have any gunpod? Even if it's a race they can easily have faux gunpods and ammunition just like in training scene from Macross Zero! IMO it would be very cool to have a paintball sequence with faux ammo during the race like a winter biathlon with rifle shooting Well, I already posted the pic of the racecourse and explained it, but I guess I'll do it again: Again, that's a Pinpoint Barrier Gate, followed by a fighter course with tight curves, followed by a Gerwalk slalom, culminating in a Battroid game of "Capture the Flag." Note the gunpod... Edited January 27, 2011 by Gubaba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger69 Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 (edited) Thanks Gubaba, I've saved this picture already but somehow missed the racecourse explanation and that little gunpod Edited January 27, 2011 by charger69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azrael Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Nothing. Wanna bet it'll be next issue's VF? Well...it does say he's not piloting an AVF cuz it's not as fun since he's got implants. So we know he's not piloting a 19, a 22, or anything later. That just leaves a 1, 4, 3000, 5000, 9, 14, 11, and 17, or something in between. And concerning Nicolas, he was riding in the back of his dad's VT-1 at age 3, being taught about planes by age 5, flying his dad's VT-1 by age 8, started the air racing gig by age 13, and finally joining the Vanquish racing show by age 22. So yeah, this guy grew up in the cockpit. Concerning Magdalena Zielonaska, or "Lena", she's the daughter of a investment banker on Frontier so she is money. She's hot, according to the description, and very smart. She's the pilot of that SV-52 (technically her grandpa's SV-51) and she's likes to be flashy on the battroid segment of the race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightmareB4macross Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Well...it does say he's not piloting an AVF cuz it's not as fun since he's got implants. So we know he's not piloting a 19, a 22, or anything later. That just leaves a 1, 4, 3000, 5000, 9, 14, 11, and 17, or something in between. And concerning Nicolas, he was riding in the back of his dad's VT-1 at age 3, being taught about planes by age 5, flying his dad's VT-1 by age 8, started the air racing gig by age 13, and finally joining the Vanquish racing show by age 22. So yeah, this guy grew up in the cockpit. Concerning Magdalena Zielonaska, or "Lena", she's the daughter of a investment banker on Frontier so she is money. She's hot, according to the description, and very smart. She's the pilot of that SV-52 (technically her grandpa's SV-51) and she's likes to be flashy on the battroid segment of the race. Other than outright purchases from the military, I wonder what ties these new pilots have to the previous or present characters other Macross series. Nicolas, could be the the pilot of the VF-9. Lastly, who is the pilot of the VF-19A? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubaba Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Concerning Magdalena Zielonaska, or "Lena", she's the daughter of a investment banker on Frontier so she is money. She's hot, according to the description, and very smart. She's the pilot of that SV-52 (technically her grandpa's SV-51) and she's likes to be flashy on the battroid segment of the race. Now it's my turn to issue a correction...It's "nice buddy," not "nice body." So she's a good friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moly_Sigang Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 So at the last leg of the race the Valkyries can use their gunpods as blunt weapons? That would be awesome to see Valkyries beating each other with their Gunpods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerocombatpilot Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 So at the last leg of the race the Valkyries can use their gunpods as blunt weapons? That would be awesome to see Valkyries beating each other with their Gunpods. I have to admit I love seeing that VF-1 bash the snot out of that YF-19. A little payback for Dyson shooting that defenseless VF-1J back in Macross Plus!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted January 28, 2011 Author Share Posted January 28, 2011 I have to admit I love seeing that VF-1 bash the snot out of that YF-19. A little payback for Dyson shooting that defenseless VF-1J back in Macross Plus!! It's not a YF-19 in that pic, it appears to be a VF-19S. Graham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketchley Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 If you accept that: Su=Sukhoi Tu=Tupolev Me=Messerschmitt, Then Do=Dornier. Actually, I don't. Not because it's real world accurate, but because I don't completely trust the text rendered in roman letters in Japanese books. Especially by those writers that use Kunrei-shiki romaji or aren't romanizing Japanese in English, but some made up language. Anyhow, I'm just joshing you. I've been planning all along to revise it to Dornier when I get around to proofreading. However, I've felt that getting the rest of it done first takes priority, and then I was waylaid by a cold. >.< So, going back to the gun port/funnel/doohicky thingy: two pages later there's a caption for a picture of the dorsal blisters that looks like it talks about the dorsal blisters (though it could be talking about the changed head/faceplate). So, hopefully there's a few more jems of information in the article. Fingers crossed. Other than outright purchases from the military, I wonder what ties these new pilots have to the previous or present characters other Macross series. Probably little to no ties. Unless if we start playing the 7 degrees of separation (ie SV-52y's girl-pilot's grandfather's squadronmate knew Nora who was with Ivanov who taught Fokker who was Hikaru's sempai who is a friend of Max. And Max knows everyone and has been everywhere (except VF-X2). Lastly, who is the pilot of the VF-19A? VF-19A? I don't remember seeing a VF-19A yet. Did you mean VF-19EF Caliburn or VF-19ACTIVE Nothung? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anime52k8 Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Other than outright purchases from the military, I wonder what ties these new pilots have to the previous or present characters other Macross series. please, let's not have this. I hate when everybody has to be everyone else's consin/uncle/brother/mother/etc. Now it's my turn to issue a correction...It's "nice buddy," not "nice body." So she's a good friend. I can't actually read Japanese, but I'm I'm pretty sure he's right on this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubaba Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 I can't actually read Japanese, but I'm I'm pretty sure he's right on this one Oh, it's undeniably true, but it doesn't say that in the text. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seto Kaiba Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 VF-19A? I don't remember seeing a VF-19A yet. Did you mean VF-19EF Caliburn or VF-19ACTIVE Nothung? It shows up twice in the 2nd Macross the Ride piece Graham posted in this thread (February issue), on half of the title spread (behind the VF-19ACTIVE) and on p143 right below the diagram of the race track. It's labeled VF-19A, and it's clearly got the pre-redesign body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketchley Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Fixed It shows up twice in the 2nd Macross the Ride episode Gotcha. It's in the issue that I didn't buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightmareB4macross Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Thanks, Seto. Here is the a pic you missed in the previous pages of this thread. *Finally got a chance to get to my computer, today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinjo Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Here's the scans of all 6 pages of the latest installment of 'Macross the Ride' from the new March 2011 issue of Dengeki Hobby magazine (out today). Notice the SV-52y Oryol model kit has rear-swept canards, whereas the lineart has forward swept canards. Other changes from the SV-51 that I can see, as well as the feather-like outboard ailerons and new head that sketchley mentioned are: Graham I am loving the character designs. Best ones since SDFM... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandman Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 I can't actually read Japanese, but I'm I'm pretty sure he's right on this one She's almost as sexy as the red sv-52. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketchley Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 So, going back to the gun port/funnel/doohicky thingy: two pages later there's a caption for a picture of the dorsal blisters that looks like it talks about the dorsal blisters (though it could be talking about the changed head/faceplate). So, hopefully there's a few more jems of information in the article. Fingers crossed. Finished the parts of the article indicated in the quote (added to the I-net, too). The parts on the top of the engine nacelles are a "suction system". So, the blisters on the dorsal surface are definitely not part of the thrust reverse system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anime52k8 Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Finished the parts of the article indicated in the quote (added to the I-net, too). The parts on the top of the engine nacelles are a "suction system". So, the blisters on the dorsal surface are definitely not part of the thrust reverse system. so it's a vacume cleaner then? well, at least we know it's not a gun either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketchley Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Only if one considers the suction from the main intakes as a kind of super hoover... Anyhow, finished a bit more of the translation. I'm a bit surprised about the main purpose of all the little flaps at the wing tips. But, as a racing plane, it kinda makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Oh come on, don't tease me like that! Are they for gust-alleviation, asymmetric-drag-yaw-control, or what? Please don't tell me they're a fancy lap-counter... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anime52k8 Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Oh come on, don't tease me like that! Are they for gust-alleviation, asymmetric-drag-yaw-control, or what? Please don't tell me they're a fancy lap-counter... I so want it to be that last one. BTW; the "suction system" bits are directly above two circular openings on the chest in battroid mode. Perhaps they're related? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Like guns? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anime52k8 Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Like guns? They suction bullets into the other guy's plane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles316 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 (edited) How does the Lift Fan for the SV-51 work? Is it a Dedicated Third engine like the Russian VTOL system or some kind of electric or shaft driven system? Edited January 31, 2011 by miles316 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anime52k8 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 How does the Lift Fan for the SV-51 work? Is it a Dedicated Third engine like the Russian VTOL system or some kind of electric or shaft driven system? I would assume they're a pair of lift fans driven by some sort of electrical motor. They just seem too flat to fit a full jet engine (even OTM engines) and given the transformation I don't see how you could run a shaft from the engines to the VTOL fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketchley Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Completed pretty much all that I want to complete in the Eps 3 "Spiral Blue" translation. I've actually become quite interested in what the character and glossary sections in the preceding issues say. And for the record: (...) She is the owner of a pretty nice-looking body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor One Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 This takes place before the Frontier TV series right? So where were all these Ace pilots during the Vajra war? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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