mighty gorgon Posted November 9, 2003 Share Posted November 9, 2003 Hi, I'm new to MW forums. I've started doing a CG VF-4 (fighter only), as it seems the easiest Valk. I just finished the overall shape, and before going deeper in the detailing I wanted some comments. I am not completely convinced yet. I haven't found many references (After "mining" MW by and large), and most of them have some contradictions. I've used the Musayisa drawings, the only set that I've found complete for the 3 views, and in a decent resolution. I've also found that references in wing span do not match the length, so I used the length to scale the model. Atteched are the first renders (3 views) and a couple of perspective view. Please, any comment and especially references are greatly welcome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty gorgon Posted November 9, 2003 Author Share Posted November 9, 2003 (edited) Ok, I am NEW to MW and I don't know how to upload images... second attempt (grunt) (I removed the links that do not work, please follow the leink below) Edited November 11, 2003 by mighty gorgon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty gorgon Posted November 9, 2003 Author Share Posted November 9, 2003 (edited) (same here...) Edited November 11, 2003 by mighty gorgon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty gorgon Posted November 9, 2003 Author Share Posted November 9, 2003 (edited) (and here... but the link to the images is working and in the next post) Edited November 11, 2003 by mighty gorgon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty gorgon Posted November 9, 2003 Author Share Posted November 9, 2003 just in case, the images can be seen at: http://www.geocities.com/bolax_the_ranger/lw2.html regds, and thnx Gorgon a.k.a. bolax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beware of Blast Posted November 9, 2003 Share Posted November 9, 2003 (edited) I can see the pics by copying and pasting the link. Geocities' always like that over here. Nice work. You're on your way to become the MW's Lightning cult's new hero! Edited November 9, 2003 by Beware of Blast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning Posted November 10, 2003 Share Posted November 10, 2003 not bad, i think Vinnie would think its good for a start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerwalker Posted November 10, 2003 Share Posted November 10, 2003 Very nice!! I think that the lineart from the Macross Designs book would help you a lot. And yes, Geocities links dont work well in the forums (I have a friend that didn't believe me when I told him about that but it is true!! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doktor Gonzo Posted November 10, 2003 Share Posted November 10, 2003 Come to think of it, where IS Vinnie? Time for some new VF-4 goodliness, man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty gorgon Posted November 10, 2003 Author Share Posted November 10, 2003 Gerwalker said: (I have a friend that didn't believe me when I told him about that but it is true!! )Â true... very true... tell your friend to check this thread... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty gorgon Posted November 11, 2003 Author Share Posted November 11, 2003 (edited) Some additional details of the model, specifically the canopy area. Edited November 11, 2003 by mighty gorgon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty gorgon Posted November 11, 2003 Author Share Posted November 11, 2003 Ok, now the model has proper outer wings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty gorgon Posted November 11, 2003 Author Share Posted November 11, 2003 Some initial detail in the engines... and some exhaust gases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerwalker Posted November 13, 2003 Share Posted November 13, 2003 looking sweet!! Keep posting!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr March Posted November 13, 2003 Share Posted November 13, 2003 Impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning Posted November 15, 2003 Share Posted November 15, 2003 i hate to be a stickler about this, but the VF-4 has 4 engines, not just 2. there's 2 engines on top of the other two in your render Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinnie Posted November 16, 2003 Share Posted November 16, 2003 What's more impressive is that you're doing it with Lightwave. I could not figure out that program for the life of me. If you want some perspective shots of my 3D VF-4 to help out with detail, let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UN Spacy Posted November 16, 2003 Share Posted November 16, 2003 It looks GREAT so far mighty gorgon! I can't wait to see the updated pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty gorgon Posted November 17, 2003 Author Share Posted November 17, 2003 Sorry folks, I've been on holidays last week. Just came back and started working on the bird again. Thnx all for the encouragment. Lightning 06 said: i hate to be a stickler about this, but the VF-4 has 4 engines, not just 2. there's 2 engines on top of the other two in your render You're right. I added them at an early stage of the mesh but, as you can see in the attached image, they did not look too good so I scrapped them. These engines will be back as soon as I get a decent tail boom. Vinnie said: What's more impressive is that you're doing it with Lightwave. I could not figure out that program for the life of me. If you want some perspective shots of my 3D VF-4 to help out with detail, let me know. Ha! ha! yes... Lightwave is intimidating at first. I tried it a couple of times without any success (I could not go much farther that a pen), until I got an excellent tutorial on WW2 planes and then LW started looking great. Check a couple of models at my homepage: http://www.geocities.com/mighty_gorgon2003/lw.htm And Vinnie, yes, I would like to see some perspective shot, especially of the tail boom. I am now working with and I cannot get the correct shape... I'll appreciate ANY help. Regds & thnx Gorgon (not Gordon) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty gorgon Posted November 17, 2003 Author Share Posted November 17, 2003 Ok, added the other 2 engines, corrected the nose AND redid the canopy. The tail boom... still wrong! Rendered as "plastic", instead of the previous shiny look. Enough for today... Regds, Gorgon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinnie Posted November 18, 2003 Share Posted November 18, 2003 No joke, the tail boom and the nosecone were the items that took me the longest. Here's a couple shots of my WIP action with focus on the tailboom to let you see the design route I took. For me the best reference was the rear angle shot of the Battroid mode in the SKDW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinnie Posted November 18, 2003 Share Posted November 18, 2003 And a couple of a the WIP Battroid mode. I kind of took from everything and used the official Nue top and side schematic shots for general proportions (the front one was worthless except to add perspective). It's not there yet, but I'm workin'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doktor Gonzo Posted November 18, 2003 Share Posted November 18, 2003 Jeez, Vinnie - Just looking at these shots makes me want to grab your shoulders and shake while screaming "FINISH!!! FINISH!!!!" Awesome stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinnie Posted November 18, 2003 Share Posted November 18, 2003 And this is the sketch from the Design Works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSuchFile Posted November 18, 2003 Share Posted November 18, 2003 WOW! Simply WOW, can't say anything else then simply WOW! it's awsome, it's really going to look great when finished Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty gorgon Posted November 19, 2003 Author Share Posted November 19, 2003 Awesome... simply awesome. And a BIG THANKS, these are the details I needed!!! Now, the problem is to build a decent VF4 model... well at least mine will NOT transform! Ok, back to the Modeller... Thnx again, Gorgon, the not so mighty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty gorgon Posted November 24, 2003 Author Share Posted November 24, 2003 Did some work on the engines. The influence of Vinnie's model is EVIDENT in the upper nozzles (Thnx, the "original" looked awful). Bye, Gorgon, the not so mighty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty gorgon Posted November 24, 2003 Author Share Posted November 24, 2003 ...Now, I have to add the guns and drill the intakes in the inner wing and the major components will be finished. And it will be the moment of detailing.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty gorgon Posted November 24, 2003 Author Share Posted November 24, 2003 (the other standard image) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodavan Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 Excelent work Vinnie ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doktor Gonzo Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 Gorgon: Lookin' sharp! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty gorgon Posted November 27, 2003 Author Share Posted November 27, 2003 Ok, have been doing some work lately: new missiles, inner wing intakes, some venier thrusters, etc. etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty gorgon Posted November 27, 2003 Author Share Posted November 27, 2003 Ah! and guns an the infamous tailboom... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty gorgon Posted November 27, 2003 Author Share Posted November 27, 2003 (last image today) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doktor Gonzo Posted November 28, 2003 Share Posted November 28, 2003 Lookin' quite smooth, gorgon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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