crescens Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 seriously... im bored of the "news board" idea... this is a community of dogs being held on chains >.< i want spam, i want jokes and all i see here is stiffy stuff . sometimes this board feels like megazone 23... total control over the citizens... and now i want to say something to mods... thanks for taking away pleasure of posting anything on this forums... go on and delete this cause its just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VFTF1 Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 (edited) What planet are you living on dude? I'm surprised the mods haven't been clamping down on us for half the stuff we pull on this board. There's a ton of jokes, a ton of fun and a TON of posts which the moderators could very easily classify as spam - but they don't because they seem to respect that in the "heat" of discussion - sometimes people make snippy one line comments and get side-tracked... Can you give some examples of where you see stiffness/boring stuff and dogs held on chains etc? I'll be right back with links to what I consider to be some of the funniest and light moments the board had to offer... Pete EDIT: Ok - I'm back. If I were a stiff evil Mod who was really pesky, picky and prickly, then I would probably select these as candidates for moderation --- in other words - here's a lot of spam, fun and joy on Macrossworld: GI Joe Thread turns to important subject of boobs and hair: http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?...3243&st=460 Arguably an entire thread's worth of „spam” : http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=29037 Macrossworld discusses Macross 7 in probably the ONE MILLIONTH Macross 7 thread: http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=28930 Macrossworld takes up the little discussed issue of who is the best singer in the Macross universe: http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=29048 Arguably another entire thread's worth of spam or at best should go into Fanart: http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=28933 This thread is actually still open: http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?...l=movie+posters Mecha „Pose”...or Mecha „Porn” ? http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?...817&st=1200 It makes perfect sense to me... http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=28556 Edited February 5, 2009 by VFTF1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 GI Joe Thread turns to important subject of boobs and hair: http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?...3243&st=460 That's because those are the only things worth discussing in that approaching train-wreck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VFTF1 Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 That's because those are the only things worth discussing in that approaching train-wreck. Hey! Stay on topic. This is where we complain about how the board is too serious and the mods crack down on all attempts at fun and humor. Shouldn't you be locking this for spam now and disciplining us dogs? Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLoneWolf Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 seriously... im bored of the "news board" idea... this is a community of dogs being held on chains >.< i want spam, i want jokes and all i see here is stiffy stuff . http://www.4chan.org Click on that link. Problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Focker Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 http://www.4chan.org Click on that link. Problem solved. Great suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubaba Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 I'm with VFTF1...all of us go off-topic ALL THE F#CKIN' TIME, and usually the only times the mods step in is when the topic gets into "sensitive" areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketchley Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Erm... isn't the charm of this forum precisely because it's "limited" to Macross content? There are a bunch of laissez-faire forums out there, why turn Macross World into a clone of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXO Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Here's a long running thread that's based on posts from mostly ONE website. I don't know why we don't lock it but it's been around so long, who knows http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=182 Aside from the Anime & Science Fiction and the For sale sections (and maybe the unpolpular Homepages), your thread is gonna get locked if it's not Macross related... it's pretty simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr March Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Not all forums can be everything to everyone. Every forum is an extension of the people that own the site and they set the rules, for better or worse. If MW isn't to your liking, there's a million forums out there. Many of us participate on forums beyond MW and obtain what we want from those sites. Yet we still come back to MW because it does have something to offer. So perhaps you should explore the net the way many of us have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VFTF1 Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Yet we still come back to MW because it does have something to offer. Mainly unlimited debate on boobs vs. ass in every context imaginable but serious, scholarly debate - of course... Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowlightman Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Oh for the days when the forums weren't awash in spam, image macros and demotivationals, single-smiley responses and people treating threads like they were an instant messaging program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent ONE Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisG Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 go on and delete this cause its just my opinion. I love it when whiny people post this exact comment to try to provoke an admin into doing exactly that and thus prove their stupid point. Seriously, if you can't see the charm of this place and why people come here, no one is forcing you to stay. As others have suggested, you can find all the spam or stupid things you want on 4chan or some other board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VFTF1 Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 I'm starting to wonder whether the initial post that started this thread wasn't a spur of the moment thing. It's been a couple of days since the topic was opened, the "issue" broached...and still no follow up, no examples, nothing concrete. The last complaint we had from one of the modelers was at least a) legitamite, b) concrete, c) got resolved real quickly in favor of the person making the complaint (turned out to be a misunderstanding that his thread was closed).... This topic - so far - only has mildly comical value... Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrianop Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 @crescens: What ever it is you are smoking, I would like to have some aswell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasonc Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Hmmm, well, it's your keyboard, your mouse that you guide here. If it doesn't suit your tastes, later!!! I like to keep the boards I visit strictly to what I'm looking for. I come here for Macross related stuff. If I wanted to spam and waste time sending absolutely mindless messages back and forth, I'd visit somewhere else where that's the norm. I agree with Pete that this thread basically is more comical than anything. The comments are irrelevant, as there is plenty of "off-topic talk". I believe the site to be very well balanced in chatter vs. topic related verbage. I guess some people just feel the need to validate themselves through complaining and making a worthless issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VFTF1 Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 (edited) What bites is the lack of any response from Crescens... I mean, it's wierd to make a complaint thread; people respond to it and.... nothing. It's like... I have this vision of a a commercial, with the atmosphere kind of like in an AA meeting... "I started coming to Macross World a couple months ago... I opened a few threads hoping to loosen things up, knowing full well that the strict "macross oriented' nature of the board might not tolerate such a thing. My threads were never closed, and lots of people responded; things went off topic pretty quickly - but...it just wasn't enough. It reminded me of the time I went on that GI Joe thread and berated people for not talking enough about pop-tarts. I mean - I know it's a GI Joe thread - but couldn't they just - you know - for maybe a month - switch gears and talk about pop tarts - and not just in my pop-tart thread (which I expect will be closed any day now...though...strangely it's been open for a year and has 130 responses...none of them mine)...but you know - the whole forum could go from GI Joe to pop-tarts. It didn't happen. That's when I knew it was time for me to leave. I came to Macrossworld hoping things would be different. And what did I find? Toy threads. Bandai DX, Yamato, Macross Frontier, DYRL, Macross 7 and...NO POP-TARTS. I was shocked. Yeah, I did google pop tarts, and sure - there's pop-tarts.com, pop-tartlove.com, pop-tarts-for-all.com and pop-tarts-rule.co.uk - but... why can't Macrossworld become Pop-Tart world for a day? It started bugging me. I would open - say - the VF-1S version 2.0 Hikaru Ichijo thread and...day in and day out all people would post about was Hikaru and the VF-1 variants he flew and their Yamato versions...no pop-tarts. I just...can't understand...what's wrong with this world? What's wrong with the Internet? I go to google.com and...if I write in "ford cars" then...I get all these pages about Ford cars - instead of Pop-tarts! Can't google just allow for a little bit of spontaneity? Can't pop-tart links appear even if you write in Ford or Toyota or Transformers. No one understands me. Oh - my aching heart. Pop-tarts and pink elephants is all I dream of. And instead...I get...this unbearable ORDER. Well - I'm off to KFC to try and order some Chicken McNuggets - maybe this time - just maybe - they'll make me some..." Pete Edited February 28, 2009 by VFTF1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubaba Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 VFTF1: Your source for bizarre analogies on Macrossworld since 2006! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taksraven Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 http://www.4chan.org Click on that link. Problem solved. Actually I would suggest go to www.ruthlessreviews.com and click on their forums. You should have fun as the insane locals there try to rip your balls off. I come here when I want a bit of sanity and to NOT get mauled by stupid rottweilers. Taksraven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oihan Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 (edited) In the past there have been some threads that were deleted or locked up when I thought they shouldn't have been.... I couldn't tell you all which ones though...it's been so long since. I do feel like there are too many restrictions on this message board...but whatever. Edit: Moreover, there are times where I feel this board has become some sort of an elitist message board. ...Regardless...I keep coming back to get my Macross fix. I don't know what I would do if I didn't get my fix. Edited March 13, 2009 by Oihan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VFTF1 Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 i dunno. I think the restrictions are sensible. It helps focus the board. Besides, as a collector and Macross lover, I'm glad I don't have to wade through five thousand similarly titled topics to get to the info I want, and everyone pretty much knows one another here. As for the "elitist" thing - is that necessarily bad? I think it's good. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Focker Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 This topic is still alive? Make me wonder. If these forums and the site it is attached to never had the word "Macross" in them. Would you have visited? I know if it was called "Anime World" I may have took one look and search elsewhere to find Macross stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXO Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 There's animes other than Macross? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurin Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 There's animes other than Macross? There's Macross other than SDFM/DYRL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oihan Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 (edited) This topic is still alive? Make me wonder. If these forums and the site it is attached to never had the word "Macross" in them. Would you have visited? I know if it was called "Anime World" I may have took one look and search elsewhere to find Macross stuff. I would have gone wherever the rest of Alt.Fan.Macross went, regardless of the name of the site. Sure, this is a website/forum about Macross...but it is nice to discuss things, other than Macross, with other Macross fans. It's nice to have a sense of belonging and being able to find more common ground with others. Hence why I'm all for less restrictions. Besides, there's only so much that can be said about Macross before other members start giving snide remarks...all because the topic was discussed before and is being rehashed...which I find really silly and childish. That kind of elitism (for lack of a better word) is bad in my opinion. Edit: I am thankful for Anime or Science Fiction forum Edited March 13, 2009 by Oihan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasonc Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 Edit: I am thankful for Anime or Science Fiction forum That says it right there... If someone wishes not to talk about Macross, but of other series, a movie that just came out, etc. that's what that thread is basically for. There are plenty of discussions to get involved with there. Plus, if there's something you wish to talk about there, simply start a thread. I'm all for some sense of order here. Truth be told, I get quite agitated looking through boards that have no structure, and all you can do is run a search function to find 12 of the same topic. I also don't like too many restrictions, and so far, the way this board is run seems about right. There's enough OT posts to keep some threads interesting, and enough control as to not feel like threads are a waste of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miriya Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 I posted a thread in Anime or Science Fiction last night that pushes the boundaries but did not break any rules (AFIK), and it has been thoroughly obliterated by morning. Someone did not like it enough to not only close it but destroy trace of its existence. I also did not get any message from any mods that I had broken any rules or anything. I thought that it was funny bizzare Robot Art but I guess someone took it too seriously. I am curious though as to why it was pulverized. I am guessing that if I did break any rules a mod would have told me and given me a warning. Now I am wondering if this was just artistic censoring. And I have seen far worse stuff here on macrossworld than what I posted so I really dont get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oihan Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 (edited) That says it right there... If someone wishes not to talk about Macross, but of other series, a movie that just came out, etc. that's what that thread is basically for. There are plenty of discussions to get involved with there. Plus, if there's something you wish to talk about there, simply start a thread. I'm all for some sense of order here. Truth be told, I get quite agitated looking through boards that have no structure, and all you can do is run a search function to find 12 of the same topic. I also don't like too many restrictions, and so far, the way this board is run seems about right. There's enough OT posts to keep some threads interesting, and enough control as to not feel like threads are a waste of time. ...Right............but it's the Anime or Science Fiction form. Closest thing here to 'Off Topic' from Megazone to Star Wars There's more than just science fiction out there....... Again, I'm glad it's there, but it would be nice if there was more to discuss. Granted the Mods have been kind enough to let us discuss computers and the likes...but the leeway is very very small......I digress. Edited March 15, 2009 by Oihan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugimon Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 It's really no different from other dedicated topic forums. I wouldn't expect to see much discussion of dogs and cats on a freshwater planted aquarium forum, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VFTF1 Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 Re: the whole "I opened thread X which I thought was fine and the mods closed it" thing... Well - the way I see it is that whenever you visit a forum, you got to be prepared for the probability that something you think is cool and fine will get closed. I have also had a couple of threads closed - three in total I think. Really, you shouldn't take it personally when it happens. It's bound to happen to anybody who's an active member on a forum. You can fight and whine about it or just accept it and move on. The majority of times, people and mods find all members funny and cool or at least tolerable. Sometimes things don't click and IMO it's pointless to get all upset and wonder "why" If it's a major infraction that really annoys somebody then eventually that somebody will just go away and find a more hospitable forum to hang out on. If it's minor - and usually it is - then best just let it be and move on. There are, of course, those rare occasions, when the mods just actually do do something tyranical and oppressive, like closing down my Jennier Aniston thread. In those cases it's fully appropriate to call on the high heavens to right wrongs and mend walls or something. But those are rare occasions ;P Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Trooper Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 (edited) Oihan, I had a similar situation happen just yesterday. Apparently I am the only person on Macross World who had not seen the "lost footage" from DYRL that was used in the PSX game. Someone had posted a YouTube link to a dubbed version of it in a thread I had started. I thought this was the coolest thing since sliced bread. I further researched this clip and found a version of it with its original soundtrack. The bonus was that there was also a scene showing the ARMD-02 performing a "Daedalus Maneuver" complete with pin-point barriers covering the bow as it ripped through a Zentraedi Destroyer. Well, a few weeks prior, I had read an off-handed comment by another member about whether or not the DYRL SDF-1 could actually do the Daedalus Attack or not. When i saw this footage, I felt like I had found the Holy Grail of DYRL scenes...and created a new topic thread on it day before yesterday. Yesterday morning, I found that my thread was gone. It had not been deleted like miriya's apparently had been, but had been moved to the YouTube thread. I didn't get an explanation as to why it was moved by a mod or anyone else. But honestly, they didn't have to. It was rather self-explanatory as to why a YouTube clip had been moved to the appropriate thread. Also, these DYRL clips are extremely old news to long-time members and are actually something of a bore to them at this stage of the game. And I was told so in the YouTube thread. Did I get offended? Not one bit. Why? Because I understand that there are going to be tons of things on here---especially where the older series and movies are concerned---that I will discover for the first time...things that other members have known about literally for years. Does this breed a certain level of "elitism" as you've put it, Oihan? Well...sure it does. Anyone who considers themselves an "expert" on any given subject will naturally find themselves asking, "Where have you been? Living under a rock somewhere? EVERYONE already knows about INSERT SUBJECT HERE. Is this wrong? No, not really. Could some people brush up on their people skills when they convey their disdain for the 15th "new" post on DYRL? Of course. But honestly, in the grand scheme of Macross World, its neither a democracy nor is it dictatorship. It's more akin to a prison yard (bad analogy, I know...but bear with me here, I'm going somewhere with this). The "general population" is allowed to mix and intermingle in the forums as long as the rules of the site are followed. But as soon as someone starts posting something that is inappropriate or just completely out of left field...the prison guards (the mods) do their jobs and perform a "lock down". Do prison guards have to notify prisoners why they're doing what they're doing? Absolutely not. You do as you're told...and that's that. Otherwise, life goes on here on Macross World fairly regimented and without too much "drama" with the exception of a few occasional outbursts. By no means am I saying MW is a prison!! Just want to go on the record by pointing that out. I'm merely saying that forum sites, especially ones with specific themes (hence MACROSS World), have to keep the forums policed to insure that there's a certain level of continuity...and the prison analogy was the best one I could think of. Just like eugimon said, cats and dogs have no place in a fish forum, even though they all belong to the general animal kingdom. If you really look at a broad cross-section of threads in the forums, the mods really do allow quite a bit of lee-way when it comes to going off-topic once in a while. And that may be because the members here do a pretty good job policing themselves. The most I've seen a topic go awry is MAYBE a page or two before getting refocused...usually by a member. The mods only crack down on issues that truly deserve their time and attention. And if some of them seem surly or sarcastic...you can't really blame them. Moderation is not another word for "babysitting." And even if they do lower the boom on someone, its always with good reason. But honestly, the most I've ever seen one of them do is what amounts to a slap on the wrist...and it was deserved. But I have heard of outright bannings and account deletions, but I certainly don't believe that they take such extreme measures just because they're abusing their power. At its heart, Macross World is an international site...and therefore has members from all different cultures. A comment made by someone could roll off the back of one person or decimate another, depending on how they want to take it, language barriers, etc. I don't necessarily think you need to have skin a foot thick to participate as an active member here. But I do think we, as members, are expected to be civil to one another...and not take ourselves or others so seriously. EXO (who is a mod, mind you) has often reminded people that its "just the internet" and he's absolutely correct. Perhaps other anime forums are run with quite a bit less decorum than MW, and therefore may have a more casual flow in topic discussions. But I have to agree that forums like that are a nearly unsearchable mess if you are looking for specific information. I've been on sites where I've searched for info on UC-era Gundam series...only to find rambling discussions that, ironically, gravitate toward whatever Gundam series is currently popular (Gundam 00, for example). That's great...but tells me absolutely nothing about 08th MS Team or War In The Pocket. In contrast, you don't find that here on MW. If you're searching for DYRL info, you can usually find volumes of it with little effort. Need lineart from the TV series? You'll find specific threads on that too. And all because MW is run like a well-tuned Valkyrie. Just my 20,000 Yen... Edited March 16, 2009 by Cyclone Trooper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXO Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 I don't think I would ever say "it's just the internet" doesn't seem like me. I think it was Hurin. From me, it would sound more like this... "It's just the interniatch! SUCKA!!!!" I had a long post in mind also, but being the highest paid hand model, I have to conserve my energy... I got a rolex shoot later... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruskiiVFaussie Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 (edited) I don't think I would ever say "it's just the internet" doesn't seem like me. I think it was Hurin. From me, it would sound more like this... "It's just the interniatch! SUCKA!!!!" I had a long post in mind also, but being the highest paid hand model, I have to conserve my energy... I got a rolex shoot later... ... Your a... Male Model Assasin??? guess what i'm watching. Edited March 18, 2009 by ruskiiVFaussie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miriya Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Zoolander? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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