MisaForever Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 I Did Sorry, just making sure no one sees that by mistake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renato Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Use spoiler tag on the quote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethalzero Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 43 people in the animesuki thread 33 people in this thread 200 posts in the 4chan thread yup....this one's a rager. make that 43 here 0.0 cant wait for sub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfx Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 While I appreciate perseverance, I think in this case we would be considered delusional. Its a reference to Gamlin. The same turn of events happened. (sorta) Confession, slow mo while music stops, supposed death, alright next episode with bandages . And Gamlin's chances of survival was smaller too. I dunno guys, I believe we're being Rick Rolled....and will only think otherwise until the next ep comes out and proves me dead wrong. I'm an optimist! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumdumgai Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooo!!!! Awesome episode, but damn that ending was a gut wrencher. The moment Klan Klan and Mihail started talking about love this episode, I knew one of them would die. The DEATH FLAG went up, and since Ozma survived all the previous death flags, I knew at least one of those two would die this episode. And if they brought back Mihail after a tentacle through the chest, and being blown into space, it would cheapen the series (unless they have a really GOOD, CONVINCING way to not have him dead, which I can't think of any). I liked the similarities and differences in this with DYRL. The scene where Hikaru and Misa are talking and get walked in on by Minmay. Then the scene where Hikaru convinces Minmay to sing DYRL. I liked that it was Sheryl that slapped Ranka and her reasons behind it. Professional to new professional. I worry for Klan Klan surviving the series, especially with the My-Loved-One-has-Died-Meltran-Rage that we'll be seeing next episode (even more terrifying than Menstrual Rage). Nanase is fair game, she's already been injured. Lucca may just bite it if he tells Nanase his feelings. I half expected the Quarter crew to bite it this episode. I expect them to bite it by the end of the series. Brera's going to bite it, pretty sure of that. Canaria is going to bite it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeros Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 i am still hoping that Michel pulls a Gamlin good point, but HOW??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Guld Goa Bowman Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Sorry, just making sure no one sees that by mistake Soon as I posted it, I realized I forgot to spoilerize it, thanks for reminding me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renato Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Great Episode!!! Can't even start explaning how I felt when Mikael died, Did not see that coming at all, Poor Klan. This is a great Show!!! did you guys notice the Macross F Final 10/16 announcement at the bottom of the screen at some point?? well, no season 2 for sure now, but after this episode you kind of knew that already. Kawamori I bow to you and your genius!!! That was just an announcement for the final concert. 10/16 is the Yokohama one, but it also said 10/22 or so for the Osaka one. Anyone wanna go..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cybergig1 Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 (edited) good point, but HOW??? only thing I could even imagine is somehow Brera's VF27 was flying by, picked him up and they cyborg Michel which is.....unlikely o_O but at this point I'd totally accept it Edited August 22, 2008 by Cybergig1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATMacross Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 (edited) NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! What a tear jerker! My wife's sad too. Ok he's not dead...a valk is outside and someone picks him up and patches him up right away. Next episode...Michel's in the hospital bed with bandages and pineapple cake and chibi-klan at his side ala Ranka and Ozuma and she's saying baka baka baka baka baka... Oh well here's hoping. Poor Cathy. I thought pops was gonna get away. He always was kinda dense. He's always like, "Oh good thinking Leon." Wise up old man!!!! Not a typical politician I guess...HA! I hate Leon and Grace even more now. Why didn't Ozuma and Cathy call dad while they were escaping?!?!?! Frontier's storyline is awesome! Don't let us down at the end Shoji-san!!! Edited August 22, 2008 by ATMacross Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfx Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 only thing I could even imagine is somehow Brera's VF27 was flying by, picked him up and they cyborg Michel which is.....unlikely o_O but at this point I'd totally accept it What he said. Look people, happy thoughts....happy thoughts. And Michel getting cyborged would give them a reason to make a blue VF-27....right...right? There were nice looking eyecatches that feature them ALIVE and their intended collaboration at a later stage. We need our aces to fight alongside each other. THERE IS STILL HOPE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windrider Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Why didn't Ozuma and Kathy call dad while they were escaping?!?!?! I think she did but the call got cut when Howard Glass met up with Leon and his cronies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWolf Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 I guess it's safe to say that the rest of Antares squadron are drone fighters under Brera's control. If Grace's cohorts can do to the Citizens of Macross Galaxy what she did to Brera no wonder we haven't heard hide nor hair of them. If the majority of Macross Galaxy does have implants and cybernetics then it's almost like having Sharon Apple control millions of people. Or the Cylons having backdoors with the Colonial fleet CNP. Only naturals like Sheryl are immune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macross1982 Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 good point, but HOW??? Well, if Mikhail is indeed Zentraedi, he can survive in space right?? If he is only wounded he can manage to still alive, now the issue is how does he get picked up and healed, maybe, like somesone said Brera was there or some other VF-27 and saved him, maybe Ai-Kun Vajra type didn't become evil and picked him up or maybe Ozma was already outside figthing while Mikhail was sucked up into space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatever_Guy Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 (edited) OMG what an episode! Even though I don't know exactly what was said (need to wait for subs) it was a real tear jerker. The mikhail and klan scenes and music played together so well, so much feel, amazing work really! lol @ Ranka being slapped I love this series so much! Edited August 22, 2008 by Whatever_Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VF5SS Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Mikhail is a Zolan. That's what the novel says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperHobo Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 (edited) Even though I'm completely torn up apart about Michel being stabbed and sucked out into space I'd rather he stay dead to allow the story to progress more and go deeper than what it is right now. An awesome story is not without a tragic death. Ladies and gentlemen we have our tragic death. A moment of silence for our fallen sniper. Edited August 22, 2008 by SuperHobo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWolf Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 (edited) Mikhail is a Zolan. That's what the novel says. Zolans have 2 hair colors and males have hairy arms. Not to mention they are descended from marsupials. Even though I'm completely torn up apart about Michel being stabbed and sucked out into space I'd rather he stay dead to allow the story to progress more and go deeper than what it is right now. An awesome story is not without a tragic death. Ladies and gentlemen we have our tragic death. A moment of silence for our fallen sniper. Either that or Mikhail returns as a cyborg. Another Keiaku Doori for Grace. Edited August 22, 2008 by RedWolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichterX Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 isn't that suppose to have an spoiler tag? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phy Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Well, if Mikhail is indeed Zentraedi, he can survive in space right?? If he is only wounded he can manage to still alive, now the issue is how does he get picked up and healed, maybe, like somesone said Brera was there or some other VF-27 and saved him, maybe Ai-Kun Vajra type didn't become evil and picked him up or maybe Ozma was already outside figthing while Mikhail was sucked up into space. sure zentradi have better space vacuum resistance, but there's the issue of oxygen supply. Mikhail was only in EX-Gear, not a full pilot suit. If a person was to save him, that person would need to be pretty close in order to reach him. Now another problem that would affect him would be the wounds he suffered. I have no idea of the details, but getting stabbed in the chest doesn't help his chances of survival. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWolf Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 (edited) Makes me wonder if Leon and GraceChan are going to pull a Wilbur Garland Macross 13 on Earth backed up by the Vajra hoards. Using Battle Frontier and Battle Galaxy. Edited August 22, 2008 by RedWolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_foul_fowl Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Michel, somehow I don't think he's coming back, unless he got picked up by the Vajra, gets infected and becomes some kinda... vajra zombie? ok, too much Resident evil there... Still, I think in one of Kawamori's interviews he mentioned that the last few episodes of Frontier (>20?) are going to be unlike any other macross series... I hope he doesn't go Tomino on us, but at this point, I've got a baaaad feeling about this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinjo Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 (edited) WOW! More viceral than Plus! Nice! For those who thought this was going to be some lame highschool drama, what do you think now? This is the darkest Kawamori has ever gone with Macross since DYRL and I for one, am loving it!! I was wondering when his story telling would get this good. The last time I saw something he did that was this good, was the Cowboy Bebop episode he wrote... Edited August 22, 2008 by Zinjo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinjo Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Awesome episode, but damn that ending was a gut wrencher. The moment Klan Klan and Mihail started talking about love this episode, I knew one of them would die. The DEATH FLAG went up, and since Ozma survived all the previous death flags, I knew at least one of those two would die this episode. And if they brought back Mihail after a tentacle through the chest, and being blown into space, it would cheapen the series (unless they have a really GOOD, CONVINCING way to not have him dead, which I can't think of any). Nah, they needed a good reason to get Klan into berserker mode... I pitty the bugs.... I am expecting Grace to get fragged by Brera in the end, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
openget Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 (edited) i am still hoping that Michel pulls a Gamlin What happened to gamlin? IDK, but getting gutting then sucked into space seems pretty tough to survive Makes me wonder if Leon and GraceChan are going to pull a Wilbur Garland Macross 13 on Earth backed up by the Vajra hoards. Using Battle Frontier and Battle Galaxy. I was getting that vibe to, but i'm hoping the Frontier is on the good guy's side. This whole thing seem's very VF-X2ish Edited August 22, 2008 by openget Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWolf Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 (edited) Gamlin got Kamikazed by Gabil's fighter on the suicide mission on Varuata. We were for sure he was goner. Next episode we see him in the snow and later kicking Neo Supervision ass. Boarding an enemy mecha saving the crew from Gabil. Edited August 22, 2008 by RedWolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechinyun Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 WOOOOOEEEEEEEEEE great episode... been starting to nod off a bit during the last few... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobi54 Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 What a downer, awesome episode still, but damn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3v Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 (edited) Dammit! So it wasn't pineapples after all! It was simply being a blonde womanizer ! Edited August 22, 2008 by d3v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Focker Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 I really hate Spoilers text. Hope he can hold his breath and any other holes on their body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkrealmbahamut Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 I didn't see Mikhail dying in the slightest. We were so focused on Ozma we missed it. This honestly pulled at the heart strings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeBot Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 (edited) still though this ep makes me seriously wonder what the hell LAI was thinking when they designed the ex-gear. it provides absolutely NO protection for the user's abdominals and thighs. granted, it was probably never intended to be more than a control interface and survival system for downed pilots... certainly not a frontline infantry combat suit. Hrm... I thought there was armor in at least some of these areas. I don't think it would matter either way, though. We saw the Vajra crush one of the EX-Gears flat in the very first episode. I think the Vajra are just incredibly strong and tough. No way to defend against that except to dodge, or kill the other guy first. Edited August 22, 2008 by DeeBot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3v Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 still though this ep makes me seriously wonder what the hell LAI was thinking when they designed the ex-gear. it provides absolutely NO protection for the user's abdominals and thighs. granted, it was probably never intended to be more than a control interface and survival system for downed pilots... certainly not a frontline infantry combat suit. Ex-gears are, for all intents and purposes, glorified ejection seats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWolf Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Ex-gears are, for all intents and purposes, glorified ejection seats. Dunno VF-11 ejection pods seem to have a greater survival rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s-girl Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Still, I think in one of Kawamori's interviews he mentioned that the last few episodes of Frontier (>20?) are going to be unlike any other macross series... I hope he doesn't go Tomino on us, but at this point, I've got a baaaad feeling about this... On the other hand, if I can be literal, at least it won't end like Zero with a ??????? and a "Wait, huh?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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