jollyreaper Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 http://macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=27107 Thought it was a reasonable question, didn't see any flaming inside, no moderator comment on the lock but locked it is. Did I broach a topic that's a long-standing taboo or do something else that was deculture (in the bad way?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azrael Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 The thread was borderline and best not to let it spread among the populace here considering it involves talk of underage individuals being portrayed in a sexual context. Better to avoid the topic and not invite trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowlightman Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 The thread was borderline and best not to let it spread among the populace here considering it involves talk of underage individuals being portrayed in a sexual context. Better to avoid the topic and not invite trouble. Considering Macross Frontier portrays underage females in a sexual context, it might actually be a worthwhile discussion? Fan service, underage girls and moe are big parts of Frontier, so trying to ignore that is foolish. Now, would the people here have the maturity to do the discussion justice? That's an entirely different question... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gubaba Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 Considering Macross Frontier portrays underage females in a sexual context, it might actually be a worthwhile discussion? Fan service, underage girls and moe are big parts of Frontier, so trying to ignore that is foolish. Now, would the people here have the maturity to do the discussion justice? That's an entirely different question... And, given the Dynamite 7 discussions, I think the answer would have to be "no." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisaForever Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 And of course any discussion involving Gubaba is a no win for everybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketchley Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 Considering Macross Frontier portrays underage females (...) Please. Check your biases, cultural misconceptions and preconceptions at the door. We are fans of a Japanese anime, produced for people in Japan. Do your research first before making gross assumptions about character's ages. Not to mention that any age mentioned is completely arbitrary. They are all ficticious 2D images. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisaForever Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 Please. Check your biases, cultural misconceptions and preconceptions at the door. We are fans of a Japanese anime, produced for people in Japan. Do your research first before making gross assumptions about character's ages. Not to mention that any age mentioned is completely arbitrary. They are all ficticious 2D images. Well said Sketch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowlightman Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 Please. Check your biases, cultural misconceptions and preconceptions at the door. We are fans of a Japanese anime, produced for people in Japan. Do your research first before making gross assumptions about character's ages. Not to mention that any age mentioned is completely arbitrary. They are all ficticious 2D images. I realize you like playing the "guy who lives in Japan and knows everything about everything Japanese" card, but give me a break. Just because it's made in Japan, for Japanese people, does not make the sexualization of expressly underage characters any less questionable. People in Japan don't find this kind of stuff any more acceptable, and there's a good reason why most people here dislike otaku. Stop trying to portray it as some kind of deeply significant cultural aspect that we as westerners can't understand, because it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketchley Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 As I said, check the law, check the age of the characters involved, and if it bothers you STOP watching it. Japan: age of majority: 20 (drinking, driving, voting. Funny how those go together.) Japan age of marriage: men (over) 18. Women (over) 16. Japan age of consent: 13 (though most prefectures have ordinances against "immoral sexual acts". For more info, start here: http://www.interpol.int/Public/Children/Se...ws/csaJapan.asp ) Therefore, the questions are: Ranka is how old? Your intentions towards her are what exactly, son? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowlightman Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 As I said, check the law, check the age of the characters involved, and if it bothers you STOP watching it. Therefore, the questions are: Ranka is how old? Your intentions towards her are what exactly, son? The fact is she a character who is young looking and acts immaturely and that her character is highly sexualized. This isn't an innocent Japanese kawaii thing, this is exploitive garbage made for creepy guys who like cartoon girls and is not some misunderstood aspect of Japanese culture. The only thing being misunderstood is the people defending this kind of stuff, not realizing who it's made for. Just because it's not expressly against the letter of the Japanese law, doesn't mean its morally questionable and certainly doesn't make it acceptable to the majority of Japanese people. For further reference you can check out the beastiality DVD's and the Under-15 model fetish videos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azrael Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 This is why I said it's best to avoid this topic. *hint hint* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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