Nausica Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 anyone know if the 1/60 Macross F VF-25F Messiah Alto Custom is transformable.. and do we have to assemble it our self. the pictures on the site suggest we have to paint our self though.. http://www.hlj.com/product/BAN952782 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkReaper Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Weird sense of Deja Vu here... Anyway yes it's transformable and no you don't have to paint it. For more details please visit http://macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?show...c=24361&hl= Do you want to know more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azrael Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Mod mode Next person to talk (question, response, or what not) about the 1/60 DX Chogokin toys, I will delete your post and any responses to it. This thread is for talk about the 1/72 model kits. If you don't know what it is, ask a mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggooftoybox Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 So here's my question for the 1/72 model. I certainly hope it will come with more coloured molded parts. From the pictures there it looks like it is all made of cheap white plastic which is very very generic and doesn't show much detail. For a non-painting model kit builder myself, jsut having too much white like that means it won't look as great even after I use the detailing pen. Hope it comes with more coloured parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Probably not---it'll be about 40% dark grey, 60% white. And a lot of stickers and decals to make the coloring. You can't mold "stripes". Part of the issue seems to be (so far) that Bandai hasn't learned what Yamato knows---pure white overall looks bad on a valk (unless its skillfully weathered). You usually want very light grey. Both the 1/72 and 1/60 so far appear to use PURE white for Alto---and that just looks bad, even when painted, much less molded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggooftoybox Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Yeah i was hoping for more of a gundam-type colour parts molding. i.e. the HG Strike Noir had the appropriate coloured parts and with a detailing pen Voila! it looked awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valkyriepilot Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 can't wait for my preorder too! from what i can see in the images from the hobby magazines, Master Grade tooling is definitely in place, but i'm kinda disappointed in the Gerwalk mode but not surprised, i kinda saw it coming i'm just curious as to why they had to use transparent supports in some of the images of the model in battroid and gerwalk though, could it be back heavy? i'm hoping it's not, but then again, the kit is compatible with Bandai's Action Base, so there.... what i think Bandai will also be doing is release soooo many variants based on just one frame, since you just need to change head parts and probably weapons (e.g. sniper rifle for Mikhail's VF instead of standard gunpod), but this has been Bandai's marketing strategy and is to be expected already; i for one am not complaining with the many MG Strike Gundam variants i already have c'mon Bandai, give us Armored VF-25S already! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Yeah i was hoping for more of a gundam-type colour parts molding. i.e. the HG Strike Noir had the appropriate coloured parts and with a detailing pen Voila! it looked awesome. That's because Gundams are designed with whole areas of separate color--you rarely see striping or patterns. So many are "white overall, a chunk of blue torso, red waist, red feet, and maybe a few small yellow bits". Lately there seems to be a lot of black though. But again---no stripes/patterns. Just whole pieces of armor. No valkyrie has large "chunks" of color like that excluding feet and tailfins---they have stripes. Even a $100 PG kit of a valkyrie probably wouldn't be able to have color injection to the degree needed to do the paint scheme properly, even of a "simple" scheme like most VF-1's have. Honestly I think Bandai gets a decently big say in how Gundams are colored nowadays, to ensure that they can be molded as accurately as possible. "Sorry, you guys can't draw the shoulder armor like that---we can't mold that in 3 colors without increasing the kit price by 700 Yen" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikolo98 Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 (edited) I agree with David. I've not seen any "striping" and although not impossible to be done but it will definitely jack the price up a fair bit to do it. I suppose it all depends on how Bandai will design the parts to come together ie: Maybe Part A3 and B5 (from two different colored trees) representing the red/black stripes on the panel over the intakes in fighter mode will somehow snap together nicely and still have enough room for the mechanisms necessary to do the full transformation. Looking at some previous posts, I can see the "peg" for the shoulder and upper-arm connection to be a very typical bandai design that can be seen in their MG kits.....so I agree that there is a lot of MG tooling going on here as well. As for the back heavy part, quite frankly I wouldn't be surprised if it is. I know a lot of my MG kits have that exact problem...... Freedom, Destiny, Gelgoog, Strike......... Let's just see what it'll be like.... The one item that I really hope bandai don't mess up is the sliding in and out part of the feet. My MG Zeta has the same function and its an absolute horrible mess trying to keep the feet locked in the correct mode/extension. What about the VF-27 kit? I thought I read something about it previously on this thread. Was there something in the works? Anyone know any updates? Edited August 29, 2008 by nikolo98 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azrael Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 I'm sure the 1/72 model will be color-molded just like the Gundams. But like with any model, the best results will be after you put some love and detail into it. A straight build (no painting, or detailing) will not be as good as detailing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vifam7 Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 (edited) In a way you really DON'T want such stripes to be separate color molded parts. For one thing that would mean seam lines, making it look more like a 'part' than a painted on marking. For those adverse to all out paint jobs, you could probably get away with decals or painting just those stripes with G-marker. That's what I often do with gunpla: snap together ->paint only the sections that need paint->panel line->done! Edited August 29, 2008 by Vifam7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 I'm expecting foil stickers----just like a G1 Transformer. (water-slide decals have been confirmed, but I think that's in ADDITION to foil ones) PS--new rules/style for this thread. Important new pics and info will now be added to the first post, so people can just keep checking the first post to keep up to date, rather than reading through every new post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badboy00z Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 (edited) I do believe that it is possible to do molded stripes. It just depends on how thick each part is. The seam lines will be the natural kind and not the ones that goes in the middle of a single section. Of course if they went that route it would cost even more. Edited August 29, 2008 by badboy00z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuinJester Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Molded stripes are possible, certainly. Bandai did something similar on the MG Hi-Nu kit on the shield, that was pretty neat: Stripes aren't the hardest thing in the world to paint, fortunately, so if it's required I wont mind too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badboy00z Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 I wonder if Dalong will review the VF-25 kit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azrael Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 I wonder if Dalong will review the VF-25 kit... Probably will. Dalong has reviewed Patlabor kits as well so he'll probably look at the 1/72 VF-25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuinJester Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 (edited) New 1/72 finished pics http://ga.sbcr.jp/mplamo/010979/ I like the violet canopy. Looks like no foil stickers for the stripes. Either clear stickers or water slides. Edited August 30, 2008 by QuinJester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyesonme78 Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 i like it already hahah seems like bandai's model kits are better then DX ver .. my personal thinking only.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dio Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 Oh I am SO buying this. And swapping out some MG Gundam hands that have articulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignacio Ocamica Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 Thanks for the link!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swoosh Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 New 1/72 finished pics http://ga.sbcr.jp/mplamo/010979/ I like the violet canopy. Looks like no foil stickers for the stripes. Either clear stickers or water slides. the small print in the decals sheet say it is waterslide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuinJester Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 the small print in the decals sheet say it is waterslide. Awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 Honestly I'd prefer foil--even though I am very good with waterslide decals, for something that's going to be handled, I'd want something less fragile. I mean, most of the red striping is on the shoulder joints, which will be moving and scraping at every transformation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badboy00z Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 That looks hot! Too bad I've never used water slide decals before. As much as I like it I don't think I can do this kit any justice. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badboy00z Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Box art? Box art. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Valkyrie Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 Not bad, so the kit is a normal model, not a HG QC type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Focker Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 this is looking real good. can't wait to get it in the mail. unless it's just the lighting, i like the fact that the valk isn't stark white. i wonder though if they'll throw in a sheryl/ranka co-pilot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikolo98 Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 I don't suppose Bandai is making the armor/fast packs for the 1/72? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyesonme78 Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 maybe they might add fast packs.. who knows.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool8or Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 (edited) Box Art looks great! I'm very happy with water slide decals. But... what is this? Fighter can't stand by itself?? Edited August 31, 2008 by cool8or Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hikuro Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 K, that does look rather nice, but waterslides.......I suck at those so much, usually I like putting on my decals or stickers while I'm assembling a section based on the modeling guide, but I can't do that with waterslides I think. Ugh.......decisions.....maybe I outta just cop out too the DX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuinJester Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 But... what is this? Fighter can't stand by itself?? It's a show display and they want it lined up that way and to stay that way. My company has taped and screwed down locomotive displays to keep them from rolling around (or worse, being stolen) plenty of times at trade shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klam1020 Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 (edited) some more http://www.macross.com.cn/album/upload/170...bac73ade35e.JPG http://www.macross.com.cn/album/upload/170...0fe12d73049.JPG http://www.macross.com.cn/album/upload/170...c20a18556e5.JPG http://www.macross.com.cn/album/upload/170...09a54971478.JPG http://www.macross.com.cn/album/upload/170...6acd11a3b9c.JPG Edited September 1, 2008 by klam1020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted September 1, 2008 Author Share Posted September 1, 2008 Looking very nice, certainly much better than the 1/60 DX toy. Does anybody know if the official release date is still set for 25th September? Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie addict Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 Wow...I'm digging it... much better than I expected but why no super pack, so, it's fully transformable right? is it perfect transformation!? don't know if it's the shade of the canopy but I can't see the seat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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