Zinjo Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Bingo. As much as I would love to see Mikimoto back or if Miyatake is brought in if he can, they do have other work to do. And Macross is practically Kawamori's baby so why should he not have control over it. I expect it's a matter of scheduling. As you said they have other projects to do and so does SK, but he has set aside a year to work on MF (which also benefits Satelite, the company he runs). He is getting further and further removed from the hands on part of the productions and acting more as a steering influence. With the exception of the new "Pill" colony ships, all the rest of the Spacy fleet appears to be recycled from previous shows. The new enemy ships are most likely organic and well let's face it after the PD, Miyatake showed he is not that great at "organic" Someone asked earlier if there was a battle fortress in the fleet and most likely there is one attached to the City ship from the 2040's era. I doubt it will look much different from the Battle 13 of VF-X2 fame. Now is there any way to get a higher resolution pic of that new Logo?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radd Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 You also have to understand that when designing characters/mecha/whatever for a show, you have to create basically what the suits with the money want you to create. Miyatake did a fantastic job with the technorganic Zentradi ships and designs for both the original tv series and movie, there no reason he shouldn't be able to do a similar job with something like the Protodevlin, or the these new organic enemies. Individual designers, or even creators, do not have 100% control over what they're doing. They've got bosses whom they answer to. Design requirements they must work within. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumdumgai Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Hot damn that rough sketch of the SV-51 is awesome! Cross between a VF-11 and YF-21. I love it! Nice logo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishimaru Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Where did those green beans come from...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronocidal Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 (edited) For a high res logo, I tried tracing the image and enhancing it, but I can't tell if the layers are right for the underlying blue letter f. Color is a little off too. But I imagine a decent sized logo will come out very soon. Edited November 21, 2007 by Chronocidal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfx Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 I like how they showed that girl from Aquarion's (forgot her name) "orgasmic gattai". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badboy00z Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 As for the VF-25, it has ventral fins on the legs like the VF-1, although they're slightly bigger, and look to be shaped similarly to the tail. I'd think of them as a hybrid between the VF-1 and SV-51, which had almost twin fins in the rear. The VF-25 keeps looking more and more like a crazy blended version of every Valk ever made. I'm just glad they ditched the huge ankle cuffs from Mac7 in favor of something a little more streamlined. I can't wait for the line art for it to come out. It's weird, the pictures in Gerwalk and Battroid modes doesn't show the fin on the legs but you can see it in the rear view picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacrossCN Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 For a high res logo, I tried tracing the image and enhancing it, but I can't tell if the layers are right for the underlying blue letter f. Color is a little off too. But I imagine a decent sized logo will come out very soon. フãƒãƒ³ãƒ†ã‚£ã‚¢!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Frontier or Flantier??? what is TRUTH????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Hey, if we take several flans and stack them on top of each other, do we get a Flan Tier? .............................sorry, couldn't resist. Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 (edited) It's a stylized lowercase r, otherwise there wouldn't be a bend at the top. Frontier Edited November 21, 2007 by Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 We know, but at first glance, it sure looks like Flantier. Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGemini Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Where did those green beans come from...? The inspiration for the enemies in Macross Flantier perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UN Spacy Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Tasty flantier! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie addict Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Kawamori most be Zentradi cause he doesn't look old at all after many years... nice logo! FLANTIER!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketchley Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 (edited) Kawamori san looks older... フãƒãƒ³ãƒ†ã‚£ã‚¢!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Frontier or Flantier??? what is TRUTH????? In Modified Hepburn it's: furontia In Nihon-shiki (sic. Nipponsiki) it's: hurontia In Kunrei-shiki (sic. Kunreisiki) it's: hurontia There are other varients, but truth be known, the producers of Macross tend to not follow any of the standard romanizations (see their English translations of Zentraedi terms.) In other words, a bunch of kids learned English in school, forgot what they learned, and when they became adults, they think they are right when they romanize their language. Thus the letter R has a tendancy to become a letter L, among other things. Speaking of letters R and L, the Japanese have neither sound in their language, but they have one that is in the middle of the two. Thus, for them there is no difference in the pronunciation of the word flontiel and frontier. Anyhow, the change of O to A is most likely attributed to how a native speaker of English pronounces the schwa in the word. It also hints at having used a Southern-USAian accent. ...y'all. Makes you think, don't it, eh? Frontier... wagons west... to the frontier. Heck, the ships are reminiscient of covered wagons. What's correct? Well, the accepted romanizations are listed above, and the common romanization that native English speakers (specifically Macross fans) are using is Frontier. Edited November 21, 2007 by sketchley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sdf-1 Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Heck, the ships are reminiscient of covered wagons. Good thinking there I must say! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batou Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 So I don't have the patience to sift through the past dozen pages of this thread ... Has a firm release date (other than 2008) been set yet? Has anyone heard of any fansub groups planning to pick this one up once it's released? Since Macross is such a fan favorite in the English speaking world, I'd imagine a few different groups would take a crack at it like Zero. Is Bandai handling the domestic (i.e., Japanese) release distribution rights or is that just the toy and/or merchandising rights they scooped up? I'm kind of hoping it's both, not bc I want Bandai to start sitting on Macross toy licenses they never plan to get any use out of, but rather they might have the financial muscle to take HG to the mat and wrestle this thing out for international release??? Is it just a pipe dream? I guess that if they didn't do it for Zero, they're not going to for this one. A boy can dream, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacrossCN Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 (edited) What's correct? Well, the accepted romanizations are listed above, and the common romanization that native English speakers (specifically Macross fans) are using is Frontier. HAHAHA Thanks, Sketchley San!! It is EASY case, it must Frontier!!! Because MBS Special is "Frontiers of MACROSS", this text is same on Newtype, Animage and Animedia!!! SO..... this LOGO confuse us ^^ Edited November 21, 2007 by kresphy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeus the zentran Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Has anyone announced what characters are going to be in it and what the plot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinjo Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Speaking of letters R and L, the Japanese have neither sound in their language, but they have one that is in the middle of the two. Thus, for them there is no difference in the pronunciation of the word flontiel and frontier. Always suspected, but had no confirmation till now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr March Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Very Macross-y title graphic. Love the engrish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azrael Posted November 21, 2007 Author Share Posted November 21, 2007 I'm expecting more Engrish as we move along. So I don't have the patience to sift through the past dozen pages of this thread ... Has a firm release date (other than 2008) been set yet? Has anyone heard of any fansub groups planning to pick this one up once it's released? Since Macross is such a fan favorite in the English speaking world, I'd imagine a few different groups would take a crack at it like Zero. Is Bandai handling the domestic (i.e., Japanese) release distribution rights or is that just the toy and/or merchandising rights they scooped up? I'm kind of hoping it's both, not bc I want Bandai to start sitting on Macross toy licenses they never plan to get any use out of, but rather they might have the financial muscle to take HG to the mat and wrestle this thing out for international release??? Is it just a pipe dream? Word is Spring 2008. And it's a bit too early to know who will be subbing it. Yes, Bandai is handling the domestic Japanese distribution. We are still unclear on the merchandising rights. And keep dreaming about the International release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DestroidDefender Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 And Look - whoever was deriding LEGO. Kawamorisan is using LEGO to prototype his latest Valkyrie design. 'nuff said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badboy00z Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 And Look - whoever was deriding LEGO. Kawamorisan is using LEGO to prototype his latest Valkyrie design. 'nuff said. Lol. That's a SV-51. I never said I didn't like LEGO nor did I diss LEGO. In fact, I love LEGO since I was a kid. Just said it's not what's intended to do. If there was a kit that was intended to be a SV-51, chances are it'd be better than a custom job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumdumgai Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 badboy00z. I would guess that the lower fins in fighter mode slide into the leg, like the VF-11's vertical stabilizers/fins/whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isamu test pilot Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 HI IS IT POSSIBLE TO GET THE VIDEO OF THE TV SHOW WHERE SHOJI KAWAMORI APPEARS IN AVI, MP4 OR DIVX FORMAT FOR DOWNLOAD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinjo Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 badboy00z. I would guess that the lower fins in fighter mode slide into the leg, like the VF-11's vertical stabilizers/fins/whatever. Or fold over... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big F Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Where did those green beans come from...? Mess hall on the SDF1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumdumgai Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 I don't see any areas on the legs in gerwalk or battroid to show where they folded over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 So I don't have the patience to sift through the past dozen pages of this thread. Oh, it's definitely worth reading from about page 50 onwards, that's where all the new pics, videos and information on Macross F start appearing. You are missing out on a lot if you skip those pages. Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXO Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 the fins are connected to the same part that hold the sweep wings. So I would say it's in the back in battroid, but you can see it plain sight in gerwalk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurisama Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Hey, if we take several flans and stack them on top of each other, do we get a Flan Tier? .............................sorry, couldn't resist. Graham Hi-larious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumdumgai Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 (edited) If you look at the VF-25 in fighter mode, there's fins on the underside of it, like the YF-19. Unlike the YF-19 they dissappear when it transforms to gerwalk and battroid. That's what badboy00z was wondering and zinjo, and I were guessing about. Edited November 21, 2007 by Sumdumgai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badboy00z Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 the fins are connected to the same part that hold the sweep wings. So I would say it's in the back in battroid, but you can see it plain sight in gerwalk. No, those are different I believe. I'm talking about the one in the red circle. It's not present in battroid or gerwalk mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sh002 Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 that is one nice looking bird. a combination of many different valkyries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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