Fortress_Maximus Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Nope, these all look great! Must take cold shower now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Hunter D Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Man, the VF-0 is one goony looking bird...I love it. Now, where to make an order... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlenhoff Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Shall I order another??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 At that angle, my first "aviation enthusiast's" thought is "I don't think it could fly". Both the leading and trailing edge taper in at the root. It's got to have the strangest wing-loading ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GobotFool Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 (edited) Is it just me, or does the plastic used for this and the garland look to be of a better quality than the plastic used for previous yamato toys? Edited February 14, 2006 by GobotFool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hikuro Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 You know if a VF-0A and D show up.......I will smear my bathroom with liquid poo......yes liquid running poo from excitment that's so overwhelming it makes my stomach clench and let it rip! ..............That was much to info, I apologize in advanced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UN Spacy Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 You know if a VF-0A and D show up.......I will smear my bathroom with liquid poo......yes liquid running poo from excitment that's so overwhelming it makes my stomach clench and let it rip!..............That was much to info, I apologize in advanced. 370131[/snapback] Ooooooooooooooooooookay. Just a tad too much information mmmmkay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1/1 LowViz Lurker Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 You know if a VF-0A and D show up.......I will smear my bathroom with liquid poo......yes liquid running poo from excitment that's so overwhelming it makes my stomach clench and let it rip!..............That was much to info, I apologize in advanced. There is a pretty big chance of it actually happening, you know, so we'll hold you to that. You have to upload the video for proof if it comes true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myk Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Man, the VF-0 is one goony looking bird...I love it. Now, where to make an order... 370110[/snapback] Rob's VF-0 preorder... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calvin Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Is it just me, or does the plastic used for this and the garland look to be of a better quality than the plastic used for previous yamato toys? 370128[/snapback] I'm thinking they have added a semigloss additive to those plastics,I don't think they have changed anything else though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostryder Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 At that angle, my first "aviation enthusiast's" thought is "I don't think it could fly". Both the leading and trailing edge taper in at the root. It's got to have the strangest wing-loading ever. 370119[/snapback] I'm not sure if that was an intentional feature to give it a more "perceived" stealthy look, or if it was an attempt to give it more wing area w/out compromising the wing pivot for folding in battroid mode. It definitely gives the zero a unique look - something that had to grow on me, but I think it's cool now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundown Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 At that angle, my first "aviation enthusiast's" thought is "I don't think it could fly". Both the leading and trailing edge taper in at the root. It's got to have the strangest wing-loading ever. 370119[/snapback] What consistently bugs me are those giant cylinders on the top of the fuselage. It just looks like it'd create a lot of unnecessary drag, and wears away at whatever's left of the airworthiness of the design. It just looks so chunky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myk Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Right. It's all about making the vehicle primitive and rough looking, which it does appear to be more so than the VF-1. Ultimately though, I'll take the VF-0 design over it's successor... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UN Spacy Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 At that angle, my first "aviation enthusiast's" thought is "I don't think it could fly". Both the leading and trailing edge taper in at the root. It's got to have the strangest wing-loading ever. 370119[/snapback] What consistently bugs me are those giant cylinders on the top of the fuselage. It just looks like it'd create a lot of unnecessary drag, and wears away at whatever's left of the airworthiness of the design. It just looks so chunky. 370318[/snapback] What're those supposed to be anyways? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostryder Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 At that angle, my first "aviation enthusiast's" thought is "I don't think it could fly". Both the leading and trailing edge taper in at the root. It's got to have the strangest wing-loading ever. 370119[/snapback] What consistently bugs me are those giant cylinders on the top of the fuselage. It just looks like it'd create a lot of unnecessary drag, and wears away at whatever's left of the airworthiness of the design. It just looks so chunky. 370318[/snapback] Dorsal conformal tanks don't hurt the F-16 Block 60's performance too much... and you gotta admit the zero's tanks look better than the viper's. As far pre-reaction power mecha go, I think the SV-51 is much sleeker and mean looking, but who knows how feasible an SV-51 toy would be with it's spindly limbs and wings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 The big bumps on top are larger versions of the VF-1's, which are larger versions of the F-14's. For the F-14 they're stiffeners for aft part of the wing glove. The VF-0 has expanded them until they're practically conformal fuel tanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostryder Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Right. It's all about making the vehicle primitive and rough looking, which it does appear to be more so than the VF-1. Ultimately though, I'll take the VF-0 design over it's successor... 370319[/snapback] That's a tough call... I've always felt if you took the zero and swap in the wings and wing glove/fuselage of the VF-1 (basically keep the zero's nose, lerxes, arms, legs, and tail assembly), you'd have the utlimate swing-wing valk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myk Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Well, the idea behind the Zero's design was to make it larger and more primitive looking than the VF-1-I either read or heard that somewhere, and the VF-0 has always struck me as that type of a bird.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vostok 7 Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 HOLY CRAP! HOLY HOLY HOLY CRAP!!!! Expensive for a 1/60 but DAMN look at the beauty they put into that sucker! Proportions are right! OMG! BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY!!!!!!! Vostok 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 I love how the VF-0 looks less refined than the VF-1, definitely older, with jet technology and some pre VF-1 technology, and some advances in some areas, some steps backs, I always thought this bridged the gap between the F-14 and VF-1. Which I LIKE! This is why 4 years back when I first saw it, it instantly became one of my fav fighters. Reminds me so much of 70s era fighter planes, sure its got stealth elements but leave it to dedicated stealthy birds like the VF-17. This VF-0 is badass, the design and the toy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vostok 7 Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 I love how the VF-0 looks less refined than the VF-1, definitely older, with jet technology and some pre VF-1 technology, and some advances in some areas, some steps backs, I always thought this bridged the gap between the F-14 and VF-1. Which I LIKE! This is why 4 years back when I first saw it, it instantly became one of my fav fighters. Reminds me so much of 70s era fighter planes, sure its got stealth elements but leave it to dedicated stealthy birds like the VF-17. This VF-0 is badass, the design and the toy. 370654[/snapback] Dude, the VF-0 is awesome. And Yamato has definitely done it justice. I'm VERY glad to see that they got the proportions down pat for this one. Of course it was probably alot easier considering we're talking about a 3D model instead of a hand drawn model. But I'm also very glad to see they got over the early prototype "problems" with proportions and the like. The damn thing looks like a Hasegawa model in both fighter and battroid mode! It's good enough to be a fan custom! I really don't mind paying $150 for such a work of art, and I applaud Yamato for taking the time to do it RIGHT. Vostok 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1/1 LowViz Lurker Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Now bring on the SV51. Created as 3d model so it shouldn't be hard either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vostok 7 Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Now bring on the SV51. Created as 3d model so it shouldn't be hard either. 370662[/snapback] I'm all for the SV-51 as long as we get a "cannon fodder" version and not just the red one. Of course, there's always customs I suppose. Vostok 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extra Large Mumma Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Looks too cool to pass on this one. I'll definite buy one. Thanks for the pics and notes, Graham. You're the best. Can anyone recommend a place to buy/preorder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppy Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 HOLY CRAP! HOLY HOLY HOLY CRAP!!!!Expensive for a 1/60 but DAMN look at the beauty they put into that sucker! Proportions are right! OMG! BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY!!!!!!! Vostok 7 370652[/snapback] haha, now there's a face (well, name) I haven't seen for a LONG time! I am guessing you know by now but even though this is 1/60 it's the same size and quality as the 1/48's. You have a lot of toys to catch up with! hope you have a lotta money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myk Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 I was just about to post a "Whatever happened to Vostok" reply in the "Whatever happened to..." thread, but that won't be necessary. Anyway, I thought that even at 1/60 the VF-0 toy is still slightly larger than the 1/48 VF-1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mule Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Now bring on the SV51. Created as 3d model so it shouldn't be hard either. 370662[/snapback] Just because it's a CG model doesn't mean that "anime magic" can't occur. In Mac0, the VF-0 nose seems to shrink in battroid mode as do the wings. A different example are the destroyer droids in Star Wars Episode I. They can't transform without some parts passing through one another (based on an interview in CineFX). Yamato is dealing in the real world and can't fudge anything. The engineering on the VF-0 toy is really astounding in that not only does it look really good, but it also has to be strong enough to be handled regularly. It ain't as easy as they make it look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostryder Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 (edited) Anyway, I thought that even at 1/60 the VF-0 toy is still slightly larger than the 1/48 VF-1? 370820[/snapback] From the Toy page: "While the length of the VF-0S Fighter mode is similar or slightly longer than the 1/48 VF-1, the 1/60 VF-0S Battroid height should be ever so slightly shorter (about 1cm)." I'm pretty sure it will be heavier than the 1/48 with the added diecast metal. Quoted shipping weight at Toy-wave is 2 kg vs. 1.3 kg for the 1/48 ... this could be speculation on their part, though. Edited February 16, 2006 by ghostryder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retracting Head Ter Ter Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 I still think the nose cone is too stubby. You can't see it from the top down perspective but from a side profile, it looks stubby. Like the canopy on the 1/48 Vf-1, its more obvious from certain angles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostryder Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 (edited) I still think the nose cone is too stubby. You can't see it from the top down perspective but from a side profile, it looks stubby. Like the canopy on the 1/48 Vf-1, its more obvious from certain angles. 370845[/snapback] I'm pretty anal-retentive about this stuff, so I'll let people make their own conclusion. They could have made the legs skinnier to reduce the stubby fighter profile, but then the shoulders would be hanging below the legs and people would be screaming "Hey, Yamato didn't get rid of that hanging-scrotum-sack-lookin'- shoulder-in-fighter-mode problem!" I still think overall they did a great job. Edited February 16, 2006 by ghostryder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vostok 7 Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 haha, now there's a face (well, name) I haven't seen for a LONG time! I am guessing you know by now but even though this is 1/60 it's the same size and quality as the 1/48's. You have a lot of toys to catch up with! hope you have a lotta money. 370769[/snapback] Yeah, I was seeing Graham's picts and I was VERY impressed with the quality. The size doesn't suprise me. Makes sense that it's as expensive as the 1/48 now based on the size. I was just about to post a "Whatever happened to Vostok" reply in the "Whatever happened to..." thread, but that won't be necessary. Anyway, I thought that even at 1/60 the VF-0 toy is still slightly larger than the 1/48 VF-1? 370820[/snapback] Heh, just busy with life. Maybe I'll wander over to that thread and explain where I've been all this time. Vostok 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myk Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 You've got ALOT of explaining to do.... Well, with the VF-0 coming out, you're timing is perfect. Can any of you guys imagine missing out on this ride? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nani?! Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 I still think the nose cone is too stubby. You can't see it from the top down perspective but from a side profile, it looks stubby. Like the canopy on the 1/48 Vf-1, its more obvious from certain angles. 370845[/snapback] I'm pretty anal-retentive about this stuff, so I'll let people make their own conclusion. They could have made the legs skinnier to reduce the stubby fighter profile, but then the shoulders would be hanging below the legs and people would be screaming "Hey, Yamato didn't get rid of that hanging-scrotum-sack-lookin'- shoulder-in-fighter-mode problem!" I still think overall they did a great job. 370848[/snapback] Looks pretty damn close... in any case.... it looks great in all three modes. that in itself suffices for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr March Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 No transforming toy has yet to look as good in fighter mode as a dedicated, non-variable model, so I don't understand why anyone should be surprised. The VF-1 in both 1/60 and 1/48 scales from Yamato are still not perfect in fighter mode, nor is anything else aside from custom model work. When a custom model is produced that looks perfect in fighter mode, the battroid mode invariably looks awkward, often spindly. I can see differences in the model vs. variable toy, the Yamato looking noticeably stunted in comparison. Regardless, the 1/60 Yamato is probably the most faithful toy representation of a variable mecha Yamato has ever produced, I dare say that anyone has produced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extra Large Mumma Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Hah, some people get so conditioned to the over elongated crotch on the 1:48 that they perceive it as the ideal proportion. From the side this Yammy fighter mode looks just as good as the Hasegawa. However, it's the battroid look that attracts me since I always like the robot mode more than the other two. You can always go out to buy a good looking plane model, but can you readily buy a VF-1S battroid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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