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#1 David Hingtgen

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 10:23 AM

Kicking off a new thread with awesome pics:

http://defensetech.o...tealth-fighter/

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 10:44 AM

That J-20.is one big ass fighter. You wonder how it would handle going toe to toe with a F-22 or even a F-15 (My personal favorite). B))

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 10:56 AM

I think it could be formidable to maybe a F-35 IF its everything we are told it is. I would think a Raptor is out of the question

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 04:00 PM

What has been speculated so far, and it's mentioned in the above article, is that the J-20 was not designed as a direct challenge to the Raptor per say, but more of a stealthy 5th generation interceptor or strike fighter designed to hit things behind the front lines.

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 02:27 AM

Go here to see it whooshing around. The rudder test at around 2 minutes looks totally cool.

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 06:09 AM

God that thing is big. Still looks like a pure AWACS killer to me.

Good video of Hornet carrier ops.



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Posted 13 March 2012 - 06:45 AM

Kicking off a new thread with awesome pics:

http://defensetech.o...tealth-fighter/


Awesome pics, ugly fighter.

I don't see the J-20 being even close to the F-35's stealthiness with those canards up front. But I'm no expert.

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 12:32 PM

Speaking of awesome:

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 04:09 PM

Gizmodo gets major kudos today.

http://gizmodo.com/5...ory-of-aviation

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 06:32 AM

http://gizmodo.com/5...that-doesnt-fly

Afraid it'll be just another CGI-fest (assuming it's true of course), not to mention the severe lack of '80's soundtrack...

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 08:03 AM

http://gizmodo.com/5...that-doesnt-fly

Afraid it'll be just another CGI-fest (assuming it's true of course), not to mention the severe lack of '80's soundtrack...


An F-35 as the star plane means no Goose character. :(
Granted, I'm not seeing this movie ever making it.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 10:24 AM

God that thing is big. Still looks like a pure AWACS killer to me.

Good video of Hornet carrier ops.


So, was anybody else visualizing VF's in place of those Hornets in that vid? eh? eh? <_< Seriously--there are like, so many shots in the first couple mins of that video that are nearly identical to ones from the various Mac series that it's not even funny...

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 04:59 PM

I don't totally buy the F-35 being the star of Top Gun II. This is how I think it will play out:

The Navy pilots are high-fiving each other over their shiny new F-35C's, until a dangerous technical fault with the tailhooks grounds the whole fleet !...But then, OH NOEZ an unholy cabal of the 1% working with Mexican drug dealers, Russian ultranationalists, and the Venezuelan North Korean haters be hatin association hire a PMC air force to invade America. They are led by the enigmatic Troll-Face Squadron flying all black SU-35BM's

Nope... can't spare any Hornets. That only leaves ONE OPTION... a few remaining F-14's that have not been turned into scrap are brought back into action. Maverick will have a new WSO callsign Warlock-Ninja played by Charlie Sheen. These antiquated but powerful fighters slowly turn the tide of battle. Maverick's squad then faces off against Troll-Face squadron and it's revealed that their leader is none other than Goose flying a PAK-FA.

Goose is naturally upset that Maverick almost got him killed until his body was rebuilt with robot parts by the Illuminati, and the two have one epic dogfight. Just as the PAK-FA lines up the F-14 for the kill, Mav pulls the brake (no one saw this coming)... Goose desperately tries to Pugachev the PAK-FA, but it's too late...

In the final scene, Mav and Goose have a Newtype moment where they are floating in space playing volleyball, and Goose finally forgives Mav, before the PAK-FA explodes.

The F-14's land aboard the carrier and there is celebration, etc. In the horizon, alien UFO's suddenly appear and start attacking all of Earth's major cities. The stage is now set for Top Gun III: The Independence Day Chronicles.

Edited by Ghost Train, 14 March 2012 - 05:04 PM.


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Posted 14 March 2012 - 05:49 PM

I don't totally buy the F-35 being the star of Top Gun II. This is how I think it will play out:

The Navy pilots are high-fiving each other over their shiny new F-35C's, until a dangerous technical fault with the tailhooks grounds the whole fleet !...But then, OH NOEZ an unholy cabal of the 1% working with Mexican drug dealers, Russian ultranationalists, and the Venezuelan North Korean haters be hatin association hire a PMC air force to invade America. They are led by the enigmatic Troll-Face Squadron flying all black SU-35BM's

Nope... can't spare any Hornets. That only leaves ONE OPTION... a few remaining F-14's that have not been turned into scrap are brought back into action. Maverick will have a new WSO callsign Warlock-Ninja played by Charlie Sheen. These antiquated but powerful fighters slowly turn the tide of battle. Maverick's squad then faces off against Troll-Face squadron and it's revealed that their leader is none other than Goose flying a PAK-FA.

Goose is naturally upset that Maverick almost got him killed until his body was rebuilt with robot parts by the Illuminati, and the two have one epic dogfight. Just as the PAK-FA lines up the F-14 for the kill, Mav pulls the brake (no one saw this coming)... Goose desperately tries to Pugachev the PAK-FA, but it's too late...

In the final scene, Mav and Goose have a Newtype moment where they are floating in space playing volleyball, and Goose finally forgives Mav, before the PAK-FA explodes.

The F-14's land aboard the carrier and there is celebration, etc. In the horizon, alien UFO's suddenly appear and start attacking all of Earth's major cities. The stage is now set for Top Gun III: The Independence Day Chronicles.


Sounds almost like the plot of half the Ace Combat games.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 09:00 PM

God that thing is big. Still looks like a pure AWACS killer to me.


I don't know about that, AWACS is definitely important, but if you consider China's geography, and the likely mission of its air force, compounded with the relative difficulty involved in approaching such a big radar platform without being spotted, then it's a much more challenging target than say, tankers. If I were in charge of the missions, that's what I would target after. The strategy for China is anti-access, from that point of view, it means area denial for carriers (anti carrier ballistic missiles), anti US air force. In the case of the US air force, the damage multiplier comes from the tankers, take those away, there are still B-2s, B-1s, B-52s with stand off weapons, but you reduce the number of F-15s, F-16s, and F-22s.

If I had to bet, not even the F-22 or the B-2 could approach within 60 miles of the AWACS without triggering something, and those are more stealthy platforms.

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 08:02 PM

Who wants the front 1/3 of a Tornado ADV?

http://www.ebay.co.u...id=324156485475

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 03:16 PM

I don't totally buy the F-35 being the star of Top Gun II. This is how I think it will play out:

The Navy pilots are high-fiving each other over their shiny new F-35C's, until a dangerous technical fault with the tailhooks grounds the whole fleet !...But then, OH NOEZ an unholy cabal of the 1% working with Mexican drug dealers, Russian ultranationalists, and the Venezuelan North Korean haters be hatin association hire a PMC air force to invade America. They are led by the enigmatic Troll-Face Squadron flying all black SU-35BM's

Nope... can't spare any Hornets. That only leaves ONE OPTION... a few remaining F-14's that have not been turned into scrap are brought back into action. Maverick will have a new WSO callsign Warlock-Ninja played by Charlie Sheen. These antiquated but powerful fighters slowly turn the tide of battle. Maverick's squad then faces off against Troll-Face squadron and it's revealed that their leader is none other than Goose flying a PAK-FA.

Goose is naturally upset that Maverick almost got him killed until his body was rebuilt with robot parts by the Illuminati, and the two have one epic dogfight. Just as the PAK-FA lines up the F-14 for the kill, Mav pulls the brake (no one saw this coming)... Goose desperately tries to Pugachev the PAK-FA, but it's too late...

In the final scene, Mav and Goose have a Newtype moment where they are floating in space playing volleyball, and Goose finally forgives Mav, before the PAK-FA explodes.

The F-14's land aboard the carrier and there is celebration, etc. In the horizon, alien UFO's suddenly appear and start attacking all of Earth's major cities. The stage is now set for Top Gun III: The Independence Day Chronicles.

sounds better then the movie with Jamie Fox and Jessica Biel in it....

Edited by buddhafabio, 16 March 2012 - 03:21 PM.


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Posted 18 March 2012 - 12:55 PM

crazy ass low pass of a B-52 on the uss ranger in the 90s http://gizmodo.com/5...han-you-thought

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Posted 18 March 2012 - 03:38 PM

IIRC, that pilot is famous for showing off and eventually getting his crew killed:

http://en.wikipedia....Base_B-52_crash

http://youtu.be/sjFIB1L3BPU

BTW---due to a B-52's high amount of incidence, they can fly level or even climb while nose-down. Yes, you can even see them go nose-down immediately after takeoff for initial climb-out... So many low passes look more dramatic than they are because it looks like the plane's descending when it's not.

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Posted 18 March 2012 - 03:43 PM

this bloke got himself grounded for his trouble, according to the news blurb...

http://gizmodo.com/5...-ground-updated

but ferchrissakes--couldn't he come up with something better than "it was just for fun" when asked to explain himself? Jesus, buddy; you were asking for it. He could have at least fudged it a little: "...we wanted to demonstrate a *ahem* planned precision maneuver, as required for the Low Altitude Parachute Extraction System method..."

Edited by reddsun1, 18 March 2012 - 03:44 PM.


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Posted 18 March 2012 - 04:33 PM

IIRC, that pilot is famous for showing off and eventually getting his crew killed:

http://en.wikipedia....Base_B-52_crash

BTW---due to a B-52's high amount of incidence, they can fly level or even climb while nose-down. Yes, you can even see them go nose-down immediately after takeoff for initial climb-out... So many low passes look more dramatic than they are because it looks like the plane's descending when it's not.


I just read the entire article on that pilot. I think it's criminal that his superiors continued to let him fly. It wouldn't be so tragic if his actions resulted in only his death and not the deaths of three other men.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 02:35 AM

Return of the biplane?

http://gizmodo.com/5...one-of-the-boom

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 03:10 AM

It's an inverted X-Wing!

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 05:04 AM

Return of the biplane?

http://gizmodo.com/5...one-of-the-boom

That would totally change air travel if its cost effective as they say

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 05:32 AM

It's an inverted X-Wing!


Let the "...lock S-foils in attack position" quotes commence ad-nauseum! :P

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 08:33 AM

Who wants the front 1/3 of a Tornado ADV?

http://www.ebay.co.u...id=324156485475


"May require cement"...? ;)

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 01:21 PM

Airborne pirates on the way (sort of): http://www.usnews.co...law-enforcement

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 03:05 PM

Awesome, the Gripen will get kills before the Raptor or Typhoon!

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 07:21 PM

IIRC, that pilot is famous for showing off and eventually getting his crew killed:

http://en.wikipedia....Base_B-52_crash


BTW---due to a B-52's high amount of incidence, they can fly level or even climb while nose-down. Yes, you can even see them go nose-down immediately after takeoff for initial climb-out... So many low passes look more dramatic than they are because it looks like the plane's descending when it's not.


I remember seeing that crash on the news when it happened.

Reading up on that guy's career, he seems a real dick and should have been grounded long, long before.

Graham

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 11:57 PM

When you're towing a pink Mirage down a road with a tractor, you're the coolest guy in the world at the moment:

http://www.youtube.c...rCg8SFg#t=2m02s

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 09:18 AM

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 09:36 AM

Wow. There's no talking your way out of something like this one....


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Posted 23 March 2012 - 04:16 PM

Wow. There's no talking your way out of something like this one....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfFnNfszY9M


That guy is a moron, he mushed his way right into the ground.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 11:09 AM

Guys are lucky to be alive, but thats what you get for showboating like that at high altitudes.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 01:58 PM

They weren't really show boating. He was performing a low pass to a pitch back turn, very normal maneuvers. He attempts to convert his airspeed into a climb, but mushes through the climb losing a bunch of airspeed and gains almost no altitude. Then after executing a poor pitch back turn he tries to continue an agressive maneuver instead of swallowing out the dive and regaining his airspeed. Any one of three things would have saved him 1) Better Judgment, 2) More power or 3) More altitude.





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