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Hey!

Someone has one of these for trade. I was thinking about picking it up. I asked for measurements. This is the answer I got:

300 by 170.

Assuming this is in millimeters, that's 11.8 inches long by 6.69 inches tall. That seems a little...small for the "Big" Monster kit. I know there is a 1:200 kit out there. Maybe this guy got his kits mixed up. Or, maybe he is right. I tried to do some research on Google, but didn't really come up with much.

Can anyone here help confirm the size of the 1:160 scale Macross Monster (assembled)?

And, has anyone put this kit together? Opinions? Thoughts?

Any other "classic" Macross kits you'd also recommend? (1/72 scale or larger).

Thanks in advance for anyone's help. I appreciate it. :)

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BanDai recently re-issued a bunch of "old school" model kits by ex manufacture Arii and Imai. The Monster was included but only the smaller sacle version, namely 1/200.

Maybe you are being offered this one. However, if you can find one, I would rather suggest you go for the Yellow Submarine 1/144 resin kit version original or recast. This kit has a much better proportion.

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BanDai recently re-issued a bunch of "old school" model kits by ex manufacture Arii and Imai. The Monster was included but only the smaller sacle version, namely 1/200.

Maybe you are being offered this one. However, if you can find one, I would rather suggest you go for the Yellow Submarine 1/144 resin kit version original or recast. This kit has a much better proportion.

Thanks for the heads up! I am new to modeling. I have not done it since I was 7. But I love Macross, and I figured it would be a good way to me to explore a new aspect of this universe. :)

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Thanks for the heads up! I am new to modeling. I have not done it since I was 7. But I love Macross, and I figured it would be a good way to me to explore a new aspect of this universe. :)

If you don't want it...mind forwarding me the info on it??? I just recently picked up the 1:72 Spartan and Regult re-issues. Gonna start on them soon.

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If you don't want it...mind forwarding me the info on it??? I just recently picked up the 1:72 Spartan and Regult re-issues. Gonna start on them soon.

It's costing me quite a bit in trades. But, I think I'm going to pick it up.

I will ask if has another one for you!

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It's costing me quite a bit in trades. But, I think I'm going to pick it up.

I will ask if has another one for you!

i like the kit but mismatch is hell creating uneven seams down the middle of verything.

i'll try to post pics of both the arii 1/160 and resin 1/144 kit so you can decide.

1/144 is about $105.

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I built the 1/160 kit a couple of years ago and it is about 12 inches long by 7 inches high. The parts did not fit well and there were lots of seams after the parts are put together. So be prepare to do lots of sanding and putty applications. I added ball joints at the hip for the legs to toe out a bit since the original fitting point for the hips is just a solid bar that did not allow any side way leg movements.

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The parts did not fit well and there were lots of seams after the parts are put together. So be prepare to do lots of sanding and putty applications.

in other words; classic ARII...

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I built the 1/160 kit a couple of years ago and it is about 12 inches long by 7 inches high. The parts did not fit well and there were lots of seams after the parts are put together. So be prepare to do lots of sanding and putty applications. I added ball joints at the hip for the legs to toe out a bit since the original fitting point for the hips is just a solid bar that did not allow any side way leg movements.

Here are some photos.

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Thanks for the scale! Yeah, that's a big model kit! I may check out that 1/144.

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Man, that is a beautiful kit. It's resin, right? Never worked with a resin kit before. Looks like a fun challenge.

Maybe I should just get them both! Once I have them both built...

Would make for a great comparison review to have them both side by side. Maybe add some comparison shots with the VB-6?

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Saw that one on eBay too - and there are some on Yahoo Japan - not sure I will do it right now.

Funny thing is if it were even bigger, yet more expensive I might do it sooner.

But I guess 1/144 might be the biggest this ever gets til yamato does a $2,000 1/60 kit...

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Seeing you are new to modelling you might want to consider getting the smaller 1/200 kit. Not only is it smaller but also since it was just recently re-issued, you will not have to pay big bucks for it!

I see shops selling them for like US$50-60, which is a steal consider how the original versions traded hands for like US$100-150 just a few years ago!

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Seeing you are new to modelling you might want to consider getting the smaller 1/200 kit. Not only is it smaller but also since it was just recently re-issued, you will not have to pay big bucks for it!

I see shops selling them for like US$50-60, which is a steal consider how the original versions traded hands for like US$100-150 just a few years ago!

Thanks for the heads up! I saw a few of the 1/200's for CHEAP. I think you're right, as a new modeler, this may be the way to go.

I just LOVE the Monster. I don't know why. But it just reeks of awesome.

I think I'm going to try the 1/200 for practice.

Then, maybe I'll move on to the resin 1/144.

Has anyone worked with Resin? Do I need special paints?

And lastly, can anyone recommend a mid ranged (price wise) airbrush system that just works well for you?

Thanks in advance. You guys ROCK!

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Thanks for the heads up! I saw a few of the 1/200's for CHEAP. I think you're right, as a new modeler, this may be the way to go.

I just LOVE the Monster. I don't know why. But it just reeks of awesome.

I think I'm going to try the 1/200 for practice.

Then, maybe I'll move on to the resin 1/144.

Has anyone worked with Resin? Do I need special paints?

And lastly, can anyone recommend a mid ranged (price wise) airbrush system that just works well for you?

Thanks in advance. You guys ROCK!

WHERE did you find ANY of these for "CHEAP"???? I can be of help with your resin and airbrush questions..PM me.

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Then, maybe I'll move on to the resin 1/144.

Has anyone worked with Resin? Do I need special paints?

No special paints needed for resin, but you do need resin primer. Also, your regular modeling cement won't work, have to use CA Glue (super glue, crazy glue, what ever you want to call it). I'm building a resin Queadluun-Rau right now, and if you head over to the "What's on your workbench" thread, I've posted some in-progress shots; so you can get a small idea of what you want to get into.

Also, resin is not cheap. That 1/144 scale Yellow Sub kit is out of production, and the one I previously linked to sold for 16,500 yen on auction.

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Again, not 100% sure what that means, but it sounds to me like recast is a fancy word for bootleg.

A recast is exactly that: a re-cast of an existing kit, using that kit as a master for the mold.

They can morally be a gray area. Some people say no way to any recast. For some older, long out of production kits, a recast is the only chance you'll have to get and build one.

My personal view is if it's a current kit, or popular enough to still be around- get the original.

Very old kit, long out of production, recast is OK.

You have to be careful in where you get a recast, too. Some places do real high quality work, others do total crap work.

I myself have a recast of the VF-2 SS Valkyrie II, but I also managed to grab originals of a Musashiya VF-4, and a Club M Queadlun-Rau.

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A recast is exactly that: a re-cast of an existing kit, using that kit as a master for the mold.

They can morally be a gray area. Some people say no way to any recast. For some older, long out of production kits, a recast is the only chance you'll have to get and build one.

My personal view is if it's a current kit, or popular enough to still be around- get the original.

Very old kit, long out of production, recast is OK.

You have to be careful in where you get a recast, too. Some places do real high quality work, others do total crap work.

I myself have a recast of the VF-2 SS Valkyrie II, but I also managed to grab originals of a Musashiya VF-4, and a Club M Queadlun-Rau.

Thanks man. You have all been very, very helpful.

I think I'm going to get the 1/144. It's probably the closest we'll get to a 1/60 scale Monster. (Can you imagine the damn size of a 1/60)? It'll cost more than a car!

Other question.

Do you paint first before putting the parts together? Or put the parts together in sections and then paint?

Thanks again for all the help!

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Other question.

Do you paint first before putting the parts together? Or put the parts together in sections and then paint?

Thanks again for all the help!

It depends. If you're doing parts that will have an obvious seam-line between them, then you should assemble, putty/sand, then paint.

If they fit together at a natural break, you can paint first, then assemble.

Mainly though, just do whatever you're comfortable with.

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