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You toy guys are having way too much fun. <_<

I'm off to mope in the model section.

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Well, if it wasn't for these stupid attachment limits (something the old forums didn't have), I could also post new pics of the 1/72 Hasegawa VF-0S with Ghost Booster model kit in the model forum. Unfortuantely, I've reached the limit for posting attachments.

And Shawn still hasn't given me the access codes for the new server, so I can't upload the pics directly to the site either :(

Graham

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You still have the option of uploading the pics to your webspace, and linking them from your post.

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Thanks for the pictures Graham :)

I am really excited about this, I hope that they get it done right, I have been really pleased with the 1/48 line so far, I am assuming that since this is essentially the same size as a 1/48 (even though it is 1/60 scale) it will be manufactured much the same way, with very little die cast. I think that this one will be a winner sales-wise, I know I will buy two as soon as they go one pre-sale :)

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If this prototype is different from the display shown at Wonderfest, I fail to see the differences. Examining the pictures of each for a good five minutes isn't lending any new insight. They look nearly identical save the paint job.

So far, all the details and features appear to be what one would expect from a large scale Yamato product; which means really damn cool! I'm very happy with everything I've seen of this VF so far. I particularly like the wings and am very curious to see how this will look in Battroid mode compared to those schematics that were released last month.

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Guys I'm gonna disagree, I don't think this is the same as the wonderfest one.

For one thing the wonderfest version had no pilot, nor did it even look like it could open the canopy. Also in comparison, the wonderfest version looked messy in comparison...which is understandable since Mr. Tofu did point out to Noel that it was essentially a heavily kitbashed 1/48.

The parts fit seems better in the dengeki photos, not to mention more refined. I think a bare minimum of 1/48 parts(landing gear to an extent, some hinges,missle pylons, turbine and covers, and gun handle) are used...but thats about it. This saves some money for yamato since the VF-0 would not consist of entirely new parts.

Not to mention look at the arms.....now THOSE are all new. Those are not the ones on the VF-1! That and the vertical stabilizers and Bp8 parts....god I hope that back piece is diecast this time...either that or a copy of the 1/60 VF-1s backpack.

NOT TO MENTION. I don't think any one pointed this out yet...

Okay, the wonderfest VF-0 was a kitbash of a 1/48 with VF-0 pieces glued on presumably in resin...

So that means that there was an existing 1/48 VF-1 toy laying in the office, and nishikawa or solid sculpted some parts out of resin, painted them, and smacked them onto the 1/48. Bear in mind the 1/48 toy laying in the office was most likely a production VF-1 made a while back that one of the workers had sitting on his desk.

Yet the 1/60 prototype in dengeki shows ALL resin parts....in gray. If this is the same kitbash as the wonderfest, where are the painted 1/48 parts?

Get my point?

So yes folks, IMHO, this is definitely what dengeki says it is, the 1/60 prototype.

If you stripped all the paint from the wonderfest kitbash, you'd see numerous plastic pieces and some gray resin.

Yet the dengeki one shows no painted parts whatsoever.

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Guys I'm gonna disagree, I don't think this is the same as the wonderfest one.

For one thing the wonderfest version had no pilot, nor did it even look like it could open the canopy.  Also in comparison, the wonderfest version looked messy in comparison...which is understandable since Mr. Tofu did point out to Noel that it was essentially a heavily kitbashed 1/48.

The parts fit seems better in the dengeki photos, not to mention more refined. I think a bare minimum of 1/48 parts(landing gear to an extent, some hinges,missle pylons, turbine and covers,  and gun handle) are used...but thats about it. This saves some money for yamato since the VF-0 would not consist of entirely new parts. 

Not to mention look at the arms.....now THOSE are all new.  Those are not the ones on the VF-1!  That and the vertical stabilizers and Bp8 parts....god I hope that back piece is diecast this time...either that or a copy of the 1/60 VF-1s backpack. 

NOT TO MENTION.  I don't think any one pointed this out yet...

Okay, the wonderfest VF-0 was a kitbash of a 1/48 with VF-0 pieces glued on presumably in resin...

So that means that there was an existing 1/48 VF-1 toy laying in the office, and nishikawa or solid sculpted some parts out of resin, painted them, and smacked them onto the 1/48.  Bear in mind the 1/48 toy laying in the office was most likely a production VF-1 made a while back that one of the workers had sitting on his desk.

Yet the 1/60 prototype in dengeki shows ALL resin parts....in gray.  If this is the same kitbash as the wonderfest, where are the painted 1/48 parts?

Get my point?

So yes folks, IMHO, this is definitely what dengeki says it is, the 1/60 prototype. 

If you stripped all the paint from the wonderfest kitbash, you'd see numerous plastic pieces and some gray resin.

Yet the dengeki one shows no painted parts whatsoever.

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Shin, you're on crack... you can't kitbash VF-1 parts into VF-0. I think Noel lost something in translation.

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Thanks for the pics, Graham. Man this rocks! The turbine that split into 2 always bugged me with the original 1/48 design. Glad they fixed it here in the VF-0S, and in the vision that I thought it should be as well! B))

Overall great sculpt, cept i'm bothered with the ugly seam lines that run the middle of the legs, and overly "fat" air vent/thighs.

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Guys I'm gonna disagree, I don't think this is the same as the wonderfest one.

For one thing the wonderfest version had no pilot, nor did it even look like it could open the canopy.  Also in comparison, the wonderfest version looked messy in comparison...which is understandable since Mr. Tofu did point out to Noel that it was essentially a heavily kitbashed 1/48.

The parts fit seems better in the dengeki photos, not to mention more refined. I think a bare minimum of 1/48 parts(landing gear to an extent, some hinges,missle pylons, turbine and covers,  and gun handle) are used...but thats about it. This saves some money for yamato since the VF-0 would not consist of entirely new parts. 

Not to mention look at the arms.....now THOSE are all new.  Those are not the ones on the VF-1!  That and the vertical stabilizers and Bp8 parts....god I hope that back piece is diecast this time...either that or a copy of the 1/60 VF-1s backpack. 

NOT TO MENTION.  I don't think any one pointed this out yet...

Okay, the wonderfest VF-0 was a kitbash of a 1/48 with VF-0 pieces glued on presumably in resin...

So that means that there was an existing 1/48 VF-1 toy laying in the office, and nishikawa or solid sculpted some parts out of resin, painted them, and smacked them onto the 1/48.  Bear in mind the 1/48 toy laying in the office was most likely a production VF-1 made a while back that one of the workers had sitting on his desk.

Yet the 1/60 prototype in dengeki shows ALL resin parts....in gray.  If this is the same kitbash as the wonderfest, where are the painted 1/48 parts?

Get my point?

So yes folks, IMHO, this is definitely what dengeki says it is, the 1/60 prototype. 

If you stripped all the paint from the wonderfest kitbash, you'd see numerous plastic pieces and some gray resin.

Yet the dengeki one shows no painted parts whatsoever.

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Shin, you're on crack... you can't kitbash VF-1 parts into VF-0. I think Noel lost something in translation.

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From what I understand, basically the main "base" of the 1/60 VF-0@wonderfest was a 1/48 VF-1. with VF-0 pieces glued atop of it. It wasn't a definitive VF-0 just a mishmash since the 1/48 VF-1 is similar in size to the 1/60 VF-0.

I only pointed out since a lot of folks here think the wonderfest version is the same as the dengeki hobby one....whereas I tend to think the one pictured in dengeki hobby is the "definitive" VF-0 1/60 prototype, not a kitbash/mishmash.

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Yes! What a difference from the last prototype. Everything looks great. Although, I cannot see any signs of how it transforms the legs. It doesn't look like there are any panels under the nose like the 1/48 or any holes to plug into. Since it is a proto, maybe it doesn't transform. If it still transforms by separating into lots of parts, it won't be so bad this time around because it's looking so good.

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it looks very nice :) not a bad upcoming macross series of toys for us. VF-0, GPB Armor and 1/48 CF all we need now is the YF-19 with fast packs and we are all set.

chris

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Yes!  What a difference from the last prototype.  Everything looks great.  Although, I cannot see any signs of how it transforms the legs.  It doesn't look like there are any panels under the nose like the 1/48 or any holes to plug into.  Since it is a proto, maybe it doesn't transform.  If it still transforms by separating into lots of parts, it won't be so bad this time around because it's looking so good.

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actually there is a tab...you can see it on the bottom here in the pick that chowser put up

http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?...e=post&id=25092

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u know in a way i'm glad that the hands do not go into the arms simply because it doesn't sacrifice the size of the hands...i'm hoping we get fixed pose hands or at least improve the possable hands so they don't look like chicken feet <_< either way...i'm glad that yamato finally decided to make a VF-0 at all!!! i'm probably gonna get this and possibly a 2nd edition if it comes out then (wishful thinking) purchase a VF-0D when/if it comes out....i know for sure i'd buy an A and i'm sure you guys out there would buy a B if it came out too...i'm just gonna wait until we see more prototype pictures...hopefully we'll get to see some pictures in battroid and even gerwalk....now it's just time to play the waiting game :D

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Guys I'm gonna disagree, I don't think this is the same as the wonderfest one.

For one thing the wonderfest version had no pilot, nor did it even look like it could open the canopy.  Also in comparison, the wonderfest version looked messy in comparison...which is understandable since Mr. Tofu did point out to Noel that it was essentially a heavily kitbashed 1/48.

The parts fit seems better in the dengeki photos, not to mention more refined. I think a bare minimum of 1/48 parts(landing gear to an extent, some hinges,missle pylons, turbine and covers,  and gun handle) are used...but thats about it. This saves some money for yamato since the VF-0 would not consist of entirely new parts. 

Not to mention look at the arms.....now THOSE are all new.  Those are not the ones on the VF-1!  That and the vertical stabilizers and Bp8 parts....god I hope that back piece is diecast this time...either that or a copy of the 1/60 VF-1s backpack. 

NOT TO MENTION.  I don't think any one pointed this out yet...

Okay, the wonderfest VF-0 was a kitbash of a 1/48 with VF-0 pieces glued on presumably in resin...

So that means that there was an existing 1/48 VF-1 toy laying in the office, and nishikawa or solid sculpted some parts out of resin, painted them, and smacked them onto the 1/48.  Bear in mind the 1/48 toy laying in the office was most likely a production VF-1 made a while back that one of the workers had sitting on his desk.

Yet the 1/60 prototype in dengeki shows ALL resin parts....in gray.  If this is the same kitbash as the wonderfest, where are the painted 1/48 parts?

Get my point?

So yes folks, IMHO, this is definitely what dengeki says it is, the 1/60 prototype. 

If you stripped all the paint from the wonderfest kitbash, you'd see numerous plastic pieces and some gray resin.

Yet the dengeki one shows no painted parts whatsoever.

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Shin, you're on crack... you can't kitbash VF-1 parts into VF-0. I think Noel lost something in translation.

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Except for the "shin's on crack" statement, I agree.

Maybe a couple of inner parts here and there but I think it's generally the same.

Even the rear landing gears coming out from the leg is the same.

I agree with shin that the wonderfest one was probably put together on the fly, but still, all the parts we see from noel's picture match the parts shown from the Hobby mag. The pilot not being there isn't really an issue since that can go in and out...

The reason why we see just the fighter mode right now especially in the early stages is because it can be put together the easiest without having to need all the other function innard parts present... which is probably why the wonderfest version is not holding together all too good.

Either way... we all know what yamato is capable of with toys this size, so I'm not worried... If the final looks like the wonderfest (plus the parts necessary to transform the valk, which will also take away most of the biggest gaps) I'll be one happy camper.

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Thanks for the info, Graham! This is looking sweeeet...

OK, translations... I'm gonna go through Graham's pics left to right.

1) The FAST pack attachment is done through magnets. The innards of the vector nozzles, as you can see in this photo, are molded very realistically.

2) Like on the 1/48 gunpod, the Gatling Pod standard weapon features a storable clip and can be extended/collapsed.

3)

Main Text

Perfect Transformation VF-0 -- Completed prototype!!

To all the Macross fans excited by last issue's news of the 1/60 VF-0, thank you for your patience! This month, witness the prompt arrival of the prototype! This is the prototype displayed at the recently opened Tokyo Toy Show. Didn't you want to see it in more detail at the time? Well, in answer to those pleas, let's take a look at the basic gimmicks and details that feature, at least in Fighter mode.

Caption 1

According to the stats, the VF-0 is 18.69m in length, so at 1/60 scale it averages to 312mm. Since the VF-1 is 14.23m, at 1/48 it is about 296mm, so even at 1/60 the VF-0 is quite large. Add to that the extra feeling of volume and you get a very powerful fighter.

[Text is very small so I am half-guessing some of this.]

Caption 2

Since it was supposed to be a fully-transformable protoype fighter developed before the VF-1 series, things like the conformal tank on top of the fighter, etc., make this reproduction of the VF-0's design even more realistic than the VF-1.

Caption 3

It appears the transformation system will be similar to that of the 1/48 VF-1. Since the VF-0 is designed in 3DCGI in the Macross Zero OVA, there should be no problem recreating the various Fighter, GERWALK and Battroid modes even closer to the anime than with the VF-1, regardless of the transformation system.

4) Interior of the engine nacelles. The covers can be opened and closed and stored in the main leg, but the base is very simple. Near the top of the base a gap is visible, but there will be extra parts to remedy this.

5) The S type head shows how well it is done, as the chin (?) part is hiding. Since it is for atmospheric flight, the intakes are opened as standard. However, the covers can be snugly attached. But don't play near water.

6) Blah!

7) The canopy is rendered on a double hinge, so it slides and then opens. The pilot in the seat is also realistically molded. Plus, just like the anime, there is also a rotating cockpit gimmick in Battroid mode.

8) As armament, there are sets of three missiles under the wings. Each missile can be detached from the pylon.

My comments: Good stuff. If so much work is going into this, there is no doubt in my mind whatsoever that we will see the A, B, etc. types in various schemes. And 90% chance that Shin's D will appear.

EDIT -- I added colour. Wahey! :lol:

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