valkfighter Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Hi, need help from some of you guys, after a few years today took my vf-1j hikaru out of the box to compare it to my recent purchased vf-25f alto, but i noticed the bright White on my 1j was far darker than the 25f, so this question came to me, has my 1j yellowed? so to answer that question took my 1s model kit out of the box too, and i found that the bright White on my assembly kit is a cold White while my 1j is warm White, are the assembly kit and the 1j suposed to be the same bright White?? could any of you who has an assembly kit and the 1j hikaru compare it and tell me if its a different or the same White color? no need of images just tell me what you see. i am a bit confused at this point, i dont remember if they were the same or not. my v2s have been in their boxes for almost 3 years inside their respective blíster and in the dark in a dry environment. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benson13 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Pics always help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chyll2 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 I agree pics always help, I dont onw a VF-1J but I always get the impression that the assembly kit are really bright (just like the newer arcadia). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickyg Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 While I don't have the 1J kit, I do have a 1S and a 1A and unfortunately, not on hand. Here's a comparison of the VF-25F and the non-kit 1J though: My 1J has had a light gray artist oil wash applied and I don't doubt that it's discolored it just a touch, in the process. That said, I still think of it is a fairly neutral white, while the 25F is more of a blue-white. Here's a comparison to a styrofoam cup, which is pretty standard white, to my eyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoreyD Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Doesn't really look like it yellowed to me. There are actually many shades of "white", and it's likely that the Alto "white" is normally just more "blue" than the "white" used for Hikaru. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xigfrid Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Just checked and I got the same colors as Mickyg. The unpaint kit is brighter, just like the Roy VF-1S TV version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eriku Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 The Yamato assembly kits (and the pre-assembled versions) are a very stark white and almost have a slight pinkish hue to them under certain lights. This is the same for the Arcadia VF-1S Roy and Hikaru. It's a very different white than standard Yamato releases and also different from Bandai's Frontier VFs. So I don't think you have any discoloring going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Alto's VF-25 is greyish purple-white to start with. It's just what Bandai used for that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest davidwhangchoi Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 There are actually many shades of "white", and it's likely that the Alto "white" is normally just more "blue" +1 Alto's VF-25 is greyish purple-white to start with. It's just what Bandai used for that one. even more accurate, that was what i was thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valkfighter Posted November 24, 2014 Author Share Posted November 24, 2014 Eriku, what do you mean with the pre assembled versions? the no painting version? so those are the same White? so the yamato standard tv releases have different color than the assembly kit then ( tv 1j hikaru,kakizaki 1a, max 1a and tv roy?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvmacross Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Yup. Alto's VF-171 is nearly "DYRL grey", but is still considered "white" to most people. (heck, a lot of people consider DYRL grey, to be "white") Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanedas Bike Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Yup. Alto's VF-171 is nearly "DYRL grey", but is still considered "white" to most people. (heck, a lot of people consider DYRL grey, to be "white") Around these parts most people refer to it as "off white" or "DYRL white". I don't think I've ever seen anyone refer to Yamato's DYRL VF-1's as grey until now. -b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
close313 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 When I first got my VF-171EX, I thought it was severely yellowed! I had to look it up because I had initially thought it would be as white as Alto's 25F Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
technoblue Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) Around these parts most people refer to it as "off white" or "DYRL white". I don't think I've ever seen anyone refer to Yamato's DYRL VF-1's as grey until now. -b. The different names help to match model paints. For example, I have two versions of Mr. Color that I use for DYRL Valkyries: Gray FS36622 (USAF) and Off White. When dry, it's hard to distinguish the two colors. As CoreyD notes above, white has a number of shades. The warmer, antique tones may look less striking but are no less white. The different Valkyrie photos in this thread do a good job of showcasing different colors of white. I think a "yellowed" white or a paint that is failing due to environmental conditions like UV light or heat or oxidation of certain plastics is easier to identify. The following Vintage Gaming site has some good example photos of "yellowed" items: http://www.vintagecomputing.com/index.php/archives/189 If the OP's VF-1J looks like the pictures in the link (that is, more like a well-used G1 Jetfire that was left out in the sun), then it may be time to give it a new paint job. Otherwise, I don't think there is anything to worry about. It's just different "white" paint. Edited November 26, 2014 by technoblue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eriku Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Eriku, what do you mean with the pre assembled versions? the no painting version? so those are the same White? so the yamato standard tv releases have different color than the assembly kit then ( tv 1j hikaru,kakizaki 1a, max 1a and tv roy?) Yes, the non-painted Yamato 1/60 is exactly the same as the kit, which is also the same white plastic as the Arcadia TV Roy & Hikaru. The standard Yamato 1/60 TV valks are a different white - still very bright white, just a more pure white (if that makes sense) without the violet/pink tinge under certain lights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valkfighter Posted November 26, 2014 Author Share Posted November 26, 2014 so at this point, i am trying to determine if my 1j tv hikaru has yellowed or not, you might say i am crazy but its important for me to prove it because if this has happened, that means i will have to find a different location to store my valks as i dont want any yellowing continue. i want to make a different test this time, Eriku you said that all tv releases are same White? following what you said took my 1a tv max out of the book and and now is seating next to my 1j hikaru and i dont know if it is the tipe of light in my room or my eyes but i see that the 1j is a warmer White than the max tv, or maybe the red stripes make me see it that way. can someone compare this too birds and tell me what you see, images are welcomed too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treatment Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 It is more important that you provide a photograph(s) of your 1J and your 25F. Otherwise, we won't be able to figure what the fugazi you're panicking about. Everyone has pretty much given you the basics of what we've known. The only thing remaining is for you to provide photographs of your valks. It'll be an exercise in futility if you keep asking for pics from everybody else. You might as well go check the multiple pictures-threads in here for your inquiry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valkfighter Posted November 26, 2014 Author Share Posted November 26, 2014 (edited) hi Treatment, you read my mind as i was about to upload some images but i am waiting for the batteries to finish charging ( will take a few hours), i was about to do so in my previous post but the camera was dead. Edited November 26, 2014 by valkfighter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valkfighter Posted November 27, 2014 Author Share Posted November 27, 2014 ok guys, problem solved, just determined with a good friend of mine which happens to be a extreme vintage star wars collector that means expert in old White plastic (hehehe) that my 1j has suffered a Little yellowing nothing to be worried about but will take some extra care on the way my valks are stored from now on. for now i have cheched other valks and are ok. thank you guys for all your kind help and info, which without it would have been difficult to get a conclution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barurutor Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 still interested the pictures for info purposes though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickyg Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Seconded. I haven't seen too many VF-1J Hikaru types that have yellowed but I'm sure it'd be informative to others, both to know if it's happened as well as how you'll be takings steps to minimise it in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanedas Bike Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 still interested the pictures for info purposes though. Seconded. I haven't seen too many VF-1J Hikaru types that have yellowed but I'm sure it'd be informative to others, both to know if it's happened as well as how you'll be takings steps to minimise it in the future. Agreed. Really interested in seeing the pictures of the Valkyrie in question. -b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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